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Furious response as Union Jack replaces Welsh flag outside Flint Castle

23 Nov 2021 2 minutes Read
Flint Castle, picture by AJ Marshall (CC BY-SA 4.0).

There has been a furious online response after the Welsh flag was replaced with a Union Jack outside Flint Castle.

Welsh independence supporter Paul Stevenson, hit out at Cadw, which is responsible for the castle, following the switch.

He shared a photo on social media of a Union Jack being flown on a flag pole outside the castle.

He has also asked the Welsh Government’s historic environment service, to explain why Wales’ flag was removed and replaced, and if the change will be a “permanent” one.

Flint Castle was the first of a series of castles built during a campaign by King Edward I’s of England to conquer Wales.

The chain of fortresses designed to encircle the north of Wales and oppress the Welsh would later become known as Edward I’s “Iron Ring”.

 

Mark Henry told Cadw: “obviously you’re oblivious to the history of these castles if you’re willing to fly this instead of our national flag. Absolute disgrace.”

Flintshire councillor David John Healey said: “Rather than reinforce unity this will spawn a nationalist reaction.”

Pro-independence campaign group YesCymru said: “@cadwwales falling in line with government policy? Shame.”

A Welsh Government spokesperson told Nation.Cymru: “The Union flag was used for Armistice Day and is being taken down today. The Welsh flag which usually flies at Flint Castle has been weather damaged and is being replaced. ”


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Erisian
Erisian
7 months ago

Every calculated insult and ill considered action just brings independance a step nearer.

Rhosddu
Rhosddu
7 months ago

Not sure why it was necessary to replace the Welsh flag with the UK one in order to commemorate Armistice Day. On whose orders?

defaid
defaid
7 months ago
Reply to  Rhosddu

Dispassionately, I imagine it’s because Armistice Day is essentially military and our armed forces are British.

I feel that a replacement for a weather-damaged flag should already have been available so that both could have flown.

Welsh_Siôn
Welsh_Siôn
7 months ago
Reply to  Rhosddu

On whose orders?

Why, on Brigadier Bufton-Tufton, MC and Bar, British India 1934-1947, Retd.’s orders, don’t y’know, old boy? “Buffers” and I share a pink gin or seven in the British Legion from time to time. Good ol’ “Buffers”! Three Cheers for “Buffers” and GSTQ. Har Har Har!

(You will also recall that the present Defence Secretary refers to us now as ‘a territory’ aka ‘colony’. God Bless La Mordant. Toodle-pip!)

Last edited 7 months ago by Welsh_Siôn
Paul Reynolds
7 months ago
Reply to  Welsh_Siôn

Would that be the British India where Cayo’s father served.

Wrexhamian
Wrexhamian
7 months ago
Reply to  Paul Reynolds

No. Cayo Evans’ father served in Malaya, after being conscripted.

Paul Reynolds
7 months ago
Reply to  Wrexhamian

He was a member of the Indian Educational Service from 1905 to 1922.

Educating them in British values

Who knew, eh?

Daddy Cayo and the Raj!

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
7 months ago
Reply to  Paul Reynolds

Please don’t defend the indefensible, or try to taint the memory & family of Cayo. At least he tried to stop the English state from drowning Tryweryn.

If indeed the Union Flag was flown to commemorate Armistice Day, there was no consultation or explanation for the removal of the Welsh flag when two could have been flown, as others have highlighted.

And It’s not only calculated but an insult to the memory of the Welsh soldiers who fought & died in both wars on behalf of a British State that’s never actually represented or respected Wales.

David Smith
David Smith
7 months ago
Reply to  Y Cymro

Your condemnatory tone of his father as a coloniser, followed by condemnation of of the man himself as a failed terrorist suggests you’re a bit simple and mutually contradictory in your sentiments.

Paul Reynolds
7 months ago
Reply to  Y Cymro

“At least he tried to stop the English state from drowning Tryweryn.”

Look where that got him.

English public school educated and taking the money of xenophobic fools.

Last edited 7 months ago by Paul Reynolds
Wrexhamian
Wrexhamian
7 months ago
Reply to  Paul Reynolds

You’ve confused anti-colonialism with xenophobia — not deliberately, I hope?

Wrexhamian
Wrexhamian
7 months ago
Reply to  Paul Reynolds

What’s his dad’s job got to do with anything?

Andy Brown
Andy Brown
7 months ago
Reply to  Rhosddu

Why are you insulting the 100,000 Welsh men and Women that died in both World Wars @Paul Reynolds

Paul Reynolds
7 months ago
Reply to  Andy Brown

I’m not. I am happy for the flag to be there.

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
7 months ago
Reply to  Rhosddu

May I inform you that thousands of Welsh Nationalists & Welsh speakers died in both WW1 & WW2. So retract your claim made that Plaid supporters would have supported Hitler. How ignorant?. You are soon to eat your words. Read on further. One famous example, is poet Hedd Wyn. He died at the Battle of Passchendaele on the 31st of July 1917. He sacrificed his life for a British state that politically & culturally oppressed Wales and banned the Welsh language. And in WW2 Hitler set up a fascist British SS division called , The British Free Corps. And all… Read more »

Mark Hoffer
Mark Hoffer
7 months ago

More unon flags = more people calling for independence.
Get the butcher’s apron up all over Wales.

SundanceKid
SundanceKid
7 months ago
Reply to  Mark Hoffer

Never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake. Napoleon was right about that one!

GarethW
GarethW
7 months ago

Why do we need a ‘British’ flag instead of the Welsh flag on Armistice Day ?????

Quornby
Quornby
7 months ago
Reply to  GarethW

Exactly so Gareth. We should fly our own flag to remember our own dead and to acknowledge our fallen allies. It seems that Cadw sneaks up the neighbour’s flag at midnight on Nov 10th/11th. Obviously a policy decision taken by an MBE wannabe because it happens every year.

Andrew
Andrew
7 months ago

Thank goodness there are no weathered butchers apron’s here.The thought of one being left to fly long enough to look weathered is the stuff of nightmares.

Grayham Jones
7 months ago

No English flags in wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 we in wales have got to stop being little Englanders and and be proud to be welsh kick all English party’s out of wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 start fighting for your children and grandchildren future in wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 it’s time for a new wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
7 months ago
Reply to  Grayham Jones

No it isn’t. Learn your history. The British Flag is made up of three countries. England”s St’ George cross. Scotland’s Saltire and the St’ Patrick Saltire of the Island of Ireland . No Wales , therefore not British. And why? All will be explained Do read on and be enlightened. When Edward the 1st ordered the invasion of Wales in 1282, Murdered our native Welsh Monarchy, Llewellyn the Last. Then constructed 600 + English castle enclaves to strangle & subdue the Welsh population with his iron ring defence. And later in English fascist Henry Tudor with his 1535 & 1543… Read more »

Last edited 7 months ago by Y Cymro
Paul Reynolds
7 months ago
Reply to  Y Cymro

Edward I?

Does anyone really care?

Young Welsh people go clubbing and on stag and hen nights to England.

Welsh pensioners go to trips to Buck Ingham palace.

Stop living in the past.

Morris Dean
Morris Dean
7 months ago
Reply to  Grayham Jones

Grayham your copy and paste ‘comment’ on each article is crap. Please stop posting or at least post something original.

Dafydd
Dafydd
7 months ago
Reply to  Grayham Jones

Ever noticed that on the union jack its the flag of St George i.e. England’s flag that is uppermost, physically and symbolicoly imposing itself on the flags of the other nations represented on it …… which offcourse don’t include Cymru.

….. which offcourse was due to that fact that we had been incorporated into greater reich by that time….. wonder what form the consultation exercise took with our ancestors? Questionnaires, focus groups, democratic vote for those aged 16 and over ………. intimidation, murder?

Paul Reynolds
7 months ago
Reply to  Dafydd

The bigger, richer, stronger country won.

Oh well. No point living in the past is there?

Quornby
Quornby
7 months ago
Reply to  Paul Reynolds

The past is just passing if you look out of the window. Our new Wales will be with us soon.

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
7 months ago

More anti-Welsh symbolism, no doubt placed there to put us Welsh in our place. Unwise to provoke.

The same mindless Unionist ideology desecrated the Tryweryn memorial recently, who think intimidation will make us submissive. How wrong these cretin are.

I’m certain this offensive banner will be removed and our Ddraig Goch will fly proudly once more.

Dafydd
Dafydd
7 months ago

Ever noticed that on the union jack its the flag of St George i.e. England’s flag that is uppermost, physically and symbolicly imposing itself on the flags of the other nations represented on it …… which offcourse doesn’t include Cymru.

….. which offcourse was due to that fact that we had been incorporated into the greater reich by that time….. wonder what form the consultation exercise took with our ancestors?

Questionnaires, focus groups, democratic vote for those aged 16 and over ………. intimidation, murder?

Malcolm rj
Malcolm rj
7 months ago

Have you noticed that Wales isn’t represented on the royal standard it’s split into four parts England Scotland Ireland and England again come on wake up Wales they just use and abuse us

David Smith
David Smith
7 months ago
Reply to  Malcolm rj

I take solace in the fact that the crap they have on the front of the passport actually says QUIM on it at the top!

David Smith
David Smith
7 months ago

The hoisting of the Apron to remember the War Dead dovetails neatly with the fact that beyond cheap (and I’d argue, disrespectful) appeals to emotion regarding a conflict that ended three quarters of a century ago, and scare stories, they have zero case for continuance of the Union.

BigPooba
BigPooba
7 months ago

Here to read all the bed wetters getting upset over a flag.

David Smith
David Smith
7 months ago
Reply to  BigPooba

Troll on you crazy diamond ✌

Drew
Drew
7 months ago
Reply to  BigPooba

Racist prick here everybody, this person BigPooba needs to shack up with the dusty old arcaic crew. He expired.

Tim
Tim
7 months ago

Important for us to be reminded of our place.

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