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Concerns raised over new pipeline that could see water flow from Powys to London

09 Mar 2023 3 minute read
155 million litres per day could be diverted from the Llyn Efyrnwy reservoir, Montgomeryshire to the Thames basin.

Plaid Cymru politicians have expressed concern over proposals that could see a new pipeline transfer water from Powys to London and other parts of south-east England.

It has been reported in the Daily Post that United Utilities, Thames Water and Severn Trent Water are liaising over the project, designed to ease the threat of water restrictions in southern England.

Under consideration is a gravity-fed “bypass pipeline” running from Oswestry.

As part of the proposals, up to 155 million litres per day could be diverted from the Llyn Efyrnwy reservoir, Montgomeryshire to the Thames basin.

It is understood a shortlist of two possible pipeline routes has been drawn up – with one running to the lower reaches of the Afon Fyrnwy, and the other is a longer 16.5km route to the River Severn.

The Daily Post newspaper understands a next-step decision on the proposed bypass pipeline is due this month from the Regulators’ Alliance for Progressing Infrastructure Development (RAPID).

Droughts

Should this be approved, the project will then proceed to the final decision stage.

Depending on approval and the route chosen, the bypass pipeline could be ready by 2030 or 2033.

Earlier this year, following a motion passed by the local authority, Powys County Council has written to the Welsh and UK governments asking to place a tax on the companies with the extra revenue used to address local climate change.

The village of Llanwddyn was drowned in 1880s to form the Llyn Efyrnwy reservoir, providing drinking water for the city of Liverpool.

In August 2022, following a period of droughts in south-east England, the GMB Union repeated its call for Thames Water and the Government to implement to move water from Wales to cope with periodic droughts in London.

Responding to the proposals, Cllr Elwyn Vaughan, Plaid Cymru Leader on Powys County Council, said: “These proposals are disgraceful.

“Wales already supplies 360 million litres a day at a mere 3p a tonne – a pittance. We should be receiving a much higher price for the water we already provide.

“We are talking about big business and if we were paid properly mid Wales would receive hundreds of millions of pounds which would transform our economy and public services, which are being cut year after year.

Harm

Cefin Campbell, Plaid Cymru Member of the Senedd for Mid & West Wales added: “Paradoxically, whilst water prices for Welsh customers are amongst the highest in the UK – water from our reservoirs continues to flow over the border at a minimal fee.

“Any plans to export more water is a cause for concern – and crucially we need assurances that any proposals do not harm our water security in terms of now or the future, that it doesn’t harm our environment or communities, and finally that the people of Wales get the full economic value from the export of this very precious resource.”

Cllr Bryn Davies, Plaid Cymru Councillor for Banwy, Llanfihangel and Llanwddyn said: “We all know water is an extremely emotive issue in Wales, and for too long our communities and economy have missed out on the huge economic potential this resource offers.

“We need urgent clarity on these proposals, and assurances our communities are fairly compensated in any further extraction of our water.”


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Frank
Frank
1 year ago

Tell the Saes to build their own reservoirs in their dales or the Cotswolds, Surrey or Hampshire areas. They are quick to spend on HS2.

Stuart Cane
Stuart Cane
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank

Like HS2, they’ll probably count this as another “England and Wales” project to stop Wales getting its fair share of capital budgets!

Sean McIlvenie
Sean McIlvenie
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank

We now know we’re we can all go to have a dump.

Lib Dem YesCymru Ilfiltrator
Lib Dem YesCymru Ilfiltrator
1 year ago

Thankfully ISIS never blew up Mosul Dam.
They were not smart enough to know how to weaponise water in stages from using it to destroy and isolate, to then using it to starve and blackmail.

Ivor Schilling
Ivor Schilling
1 year ago

You LibDems are often of devious mind.

Iago Prydderch
Iago Prydderch
1 year ago

What will the feeble Welsh government do? Nothing!

George Bodley
George Bodley
1 year ago
Reply to  Iago Prydderch

Bring back the M.A.C.

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
1 year ago

Lake District keeping very quiet…

Rhosddu
Rhosddu
1 year ago

Ah, the old “Englandandwales” scam again.

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
1 year ago

Here we go again. What England wants it takes from Wales. We cannot allow this to happen. Our Senedd Cymru must pass legislation to stop this resource rape. We must fight with all our might to stop these Whitehall leaches from sucking aesy our lifeblood. Another Tryweryn & Elan valley is about to happen. We are constantly patronised by the English right-wing press how scrounging Wales is dependent on English money, but the reality is that little England is dependent on Welsh water to function, this evident with the obese south east who now has a taste for our natural… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by Y Cymro
Riki
Riki
1 year ago

Let’s call it what it is…Theft. But nothing will change, The Welsh will find more excuses as to why Wales cannot be independent. Probably something to do with not having enough access to Water. Lol! Only in Wales!!!

Dai Ponty
Dai Ponty
1 year ago

We in Wales suffer in a drought so what the swear words i would like to say would not be printed on here how much more must we suffer under the english jackboot

Riki
Riki
1 year ago
Reply to  Dai Ponty

We keep suffering because many Cymric people genuinely believe The People of Wales and People of England are the same people. Even within my own family, it’s irrational and plain ignorant to historical facts. The Cymric people are thee Britons, and that will never change no matter how many people the English convince.

George Bodley
George Bodley
1 year ago
Reply to  Dai Ponty

If wales doesnt want to suffer then Reform theM.A.C.

Steve A Duggan
Steve A Duggan
1 year ago

Our only way out of this crap is – independence, there is no other way. So long as we are part of this unjust, plundering Union – we will suffer.

Karl
Karl
1 year ago

Pay up then.

Gareth
Gareth
1 year ago

Thames water had plans to build 4 desalination plants in London, at a cost of £250 million, but these have never progressed, amid concerns over the environmental impact, so they are now willing to presumably spend more money, to move water from Cymru to London, and that will be ok, as any environmental impact will be this side of the border. Typical Tory/ English NIMBY attitude towards Cymru. Let them fix all the leaking pipes before any move is made on our soil.

Steve Woods
Steve Woods
1 year ago

How colonial.

Sean McIlvenie
Sean McIlvenie
1 year ago

I thought Welsh water was for Wales , not for profit.
Wales also talk about fitting every home in Wales with a water meter. Why so our charges go up to foot the grand water giveaway. Mark dripford needs to go before this gets signed off on.

Glyntwin
Glyntwin
1 year ago

If you have any doubt that this will be a one off, or why little England is so keen on preserving the union: https://inews.co.uk/news/environment/uk-needs-30-new-reservoirs-protect-water-supply-drought-31-years-1793414

Finn
Finn
1 year ago

The English have raped Wales for hundreds of years get your own water and drown the land for your own water usage,Meibion Glyndwr!

George Bodley
George Bodley
1 year ago

Nice targets for the Nationalists

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