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Labour Senedd member has ‘no issue’ with 100ft Union Jack on Cardiff tax office

11 Aug 2021 3 minute read
Labour MS Hefin David with Richard Taylor on the Rich Politics YouTube channel

A Labour Senedd member has said he has “no issue” with plastering a 100ft Union Jack on a Cardiff tax office.

Hefin David, the MS Caerphilly, said he does not “care about whether there’s a flag here or there”, following the decision by Cardiff Council to green light the “advertisement” on the side of the UK Government building.

He was asked what his “position” was on the matter by former Abolish the Welsh Assembly candidate Richard Taylor on the Rich Politics YouTube channel.

The ad, which is set to be wrapped around the outside of the landmark city-centre building, Tŷ William Morgan, has prompted a fierce backlash, as well as a 20,000-strong petition from pro-independence group YesCymru.

According to YesCymru, the flag “does not represent the people of Wales”, and it branded the move a “blatant political act designed to act as a provocation”.

In response to a question from Richard Taylor on the subject, Hefin David said: “I think when politics starts becoming about flags, I think politics is in the wrong place.

“I really don’t care about whether there’s a flag here or there. I quite like the design of the Welsh flag. It’s a very good looking flag, and we’re a very proud nation as well you know and there’s nothing wrong with that.

“But I’ve got no particular issue with flags being flown in certain places as long as they’re respectful. You know, whatever. Why’s it an issue?

“Politics is about much more fundamental issues than that.”

‘Of course it is’ 

Richard Taylor agreed, saying “Of course it is. I think it’s an issue to those who make it an issue, and especially media here in Wales sometimes they want to make it an issue because it gets stories and clicks and all that kind of stuff.”

David said: “I think they fly the Union flag outside Caerphilly council. In fact I’m not sure if they fly it outside the Senedd, so you know.”

Taylor replied: “I’m a little bit like you on that but… for me it does mean something. I’m not one, I don’t walk around draping the flag you know.

“But it does, I recall what we’ve been through historically through previous wars and that kind of stuff. We fought together as a nation, so it means a lot to someone like myself. I am a patriot in that sense.”

The Tŷ William Morgan building was recently constructed in the city’s Central Square development and is one of 16 new UK Government ‘hubs’.

Wales Secretary Simon Hart said Tŷ William Morgan, which provides offices for 4,000 civil servants but could also be used to host cabinet meetings, “shows the UK Government’s commitment to Wales and to strengthening the Union” when he officially opened the £100m building last January.

But the building sparked a constitutional backlash earlier this year when a large UK Government sign was applied to its façade. Nation.Cymru recently revealed that the branding cost almost £15,000.


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David
David
2 years ago

Hefin David is a true blue British Nationalist.

Cynan
Cynan
2 years ago

Unionist, when challenged by Unionist has “no problem” with Unionist emblem on Welsh building”

Egon Krenz
Egon Krenz
2 years ago
Reply to  Cynan

The building is a government hub that will provide 4,000 good jobs.

The UK put it there. Wales is in the UK.

30,000 mainly non Welsh people signing a petition won’t do anything.

Power to the Union.

Barry Pandy
Barry Pandy
2 years ago
Reply to  Egon Krenz

How do you know they are non-Welsh? And by the way there is no Welsh element in the so-called ‘Union’ flag so it is an insult to have this stuffed down our throats. Re-design the flag to include the cross of St. David and you might have a case but it doesn’t so you don’t. Yes.Cymru describe it as a “blatant political act designed to act as a provocation”. Well if the Tory Tw@ts want a blatant political act designed to act as a provocation then we should start burning the butcher’s apron on Trooping the Colour day. Perhaps we… Read more »

j humphrys
j humphrys
2 years ago

What a sleepy looking character. “Quick, the Chinese army is two blocks away!”
………”Yeah, no prob.. ……more fundamental issues here, like maan………..price of
lentils and all……….”

SiarlB
SiarlB
2 years ago

Of course there are more important things than flags, but shoving a huge emblem of unionism on the gateway into Wales’ capital city is an important issue for me.

Quornby
Quornby
2 years ago
Reply to  SiarlB

….. and for anyone with a pinch of self respect SiarlB. The only two places this “branding” has appeared is in Scotland and Wales. Johnson’s deliberate provocations infuriate most people…. he’ll be recruiting fife bands next.

G Horton-Jones
G Horton-Jones
2 years ago

Try putting y Ddraig goch on our. ?? English Parliament at Westminster.

defaid
defaid
2 years ago
Reply to  G Horton-Jones

And the flag shows where the taxes end up.

It’s not an obsession with flags. The flag is just the most superficial aspect of a much larger issue.

Mark
Mark
2 years ago

I’d question why a Welsh MS is appearing on a fake news site alongside this vile waste of oxygen, people make a big enough fuss when MP’s etc appear on Russia Today, can’t see much difference with this pile of sh*t

Padi Phillips
Padi Phillips
2 years ago
Reply to  Mark

As Abolish are pretty much on the fascist spectrum, shouldn’t we have more issues with this Labour MS having any kind of truck with even an ex member of that vile organisation?

He needs to give his head a wobble, at the very least.

Quornby
Quornby
2 years ago
Reply to  Padi Phillips

Yep, at the last count Abolish had one member.

R W
R W
2 years ago
Reply to  Quornby

Really, where? They certainly haven’t got any members in the Senedd after they were wiped out at the last election.

Cai Wogan Jones
Cai Wogan Jones
2 years ago

If symbols do not matter, why are so many in Welsh Labour so committed to the Windsor monarchy?

Quornby
Quornby
2 years ago

There are clearly two Labour parties in Wales…. “Welsh Labour” and “Gis us an OBE Labour”. The second type can be recognized by their ermine cloaks and smug self satisfied smiles.

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Tim
Tim
2 years ago

Ah Hefin Dafad shows his true Brit colours !

R W
R W
2 years ago

Simply reminds me why I could never vote Labour whilst they have hardline Unionist clowns like Hefin David and Chris Bryant among their ranks.

Gareth Wyn Jones
Gareth Wyn Jones
2 years ago

He likes the “design of the welsh dragon” says it all about the man and his mentality… too many like him in the Labour Party

Philip Jones
Philip Jones
2 years ago

Very happy to hear his view. Labour imperialism is never far from the surface.

Barry Pandy
Barry Pandy
2 years ago

Just one more reason not to vote Labour.

Jackie
Jackie
2 years ago

It is a government building so it does not belong to wales but just put two flags one each end of the building

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