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Barry Horns backing hits bum note with Welsh Tories

27 Sep 2022 4 minute read
The Barry Horns
The party said The Barry Horns – named after the former Wales footballer Barry Horne – had used social media to promote pro-Welsh nationalist and anti-Conservative rhetoric and should not be receiving taxpayer funding.

The band has been awarded more than £17,000 from the £1.8 million World Cup Partner Support Fund, which is supporting 19 projects promoting culture, arts and heritage ahead of the tournament in Qatar.

Wales ended a 64-year World Cup drought after beating Ukraine 1-0 following captain Gareth Bale’s deflected free-kick to qualify for the competition.They kick off their first match against the US on November 21.

Tom Giffard, the Welsh Conservative spokesman for sport, called on the Welsh Government to “distance itself” from the band.

“Anyone who spends even a small amount of time on social media will see The Barry Horns is one of the most abusive and toxic social media accounts today,” he told the Senedd.

“Most of the content is unrepeatable in this chamber but they seek to castigate any individual with a different political viewpoint to their own.

“I have had to block them on Twitter for the way they have castigated me personally, and many of my colleagues on these Welsh Conservative benches have had to do the same.

“In a nation where the Welsh Conservatives are the second biggest party in terms of parliamentary representation, how can we legitimately use taxpayers’ money to fund an organisation which spreads hate and bile towards such a large proportion of the population?

“They don’t even try to hide their political affiliation. Bearing in mind that we have a game coming up against England at the World Cup, they recently said Wales is being destroyed by English rule.

‘Kick the Tories out of the Senedd’

“In the Senedd election they used the hashtag ‘Kick the Tories out of the Senedd’ and even last year they posted, ‘Have you joined Plaid Cymru yet? Do it now’.

“There is a long-established principle in this country that we shouldn’t be using taxpayers’ money to fund party political causes and we should take extra care to ensure the perception that this is happening is not allowed to take hold either.

“By funding them you could level the accusation at the Welsh Government that they endorse a number of their inflammatory comments.”

In reply, Wales’s Economy Minister Vaughan Gething said there was a need to be able to disconnect a political viewpoint posted on Twitter and the benefit of the band to Welsh football.

“Let’s be clear, the person who runs that Twitter account isn’t a supporter of me or my party either, and I don’t have a problem with that,” Mr Gething said.

“But the band itself is very much part of what takes place around the game, and if you’ve been to a number of games then you know that The Barry Horns within the fan base are something that people actually like and enjoy about the atmosphere that’s created, and that’s what we’re looking to promote.

“It’s not an endorsement of individual views of individual members in or around the band itself – it is about what the band does as a really positive projection and extension of the Red Wall.

“When they’re part of Team Wales and the Red Wall, I think all of us can see something to be proud of and that adds to the atmosphere and the environment.

“We’ll carry on having our differences on other matters in public life, but I am comfortable with our decision to support The Barry Horns and their engagement with the wider Red Wall in Qatar.”

‘Cleared’

Responding to the comments from Mr Giffard, a spokesman for the band said:  “We used to have a particularly opinionated Eb tenor horn player who knew the Twitter account password, but since lost his place for various reasons.

“As it happened Twitter cleared us of any wrongdoing anyway, and cited spam reporting by bot accounts.

“Incidentally, if anyone else out there in the Red Wall is proficient at Eb tenor horn, please do get in touch for an audition.”


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Andrew
Andrew
2 months ago

More publicity for the excellent Barry Horns who do a great job inside and outside the realms of football. Keep on keeping on the Barry Horns.

SundanceKid
SundanceKid
2 months ago

This is rich coming from an anti-Wales party!

David Smith
David Smith
2 months ago

What about MournFest ’22 that all us republicans had to stump up for whether we agreed or not?

Cymro76
Cymro76
2 months ago
Reply to  David Smith

MournFest ’22 👏👏🤣🤣🤣

Fi yn unig
Fi yn unig
2 months ago

In that case, the Tories should hand back any funding they receive directly to the Welsh government for spouting British nationalist anti Welsh rhetoric.

The original mark
The original mark
2 months ago

So it’s OK for tory mp’s to actively support and join groups like centre for Welsh studies and taxed enough cymru that openly attack the Welsh government and Welsh devolution, why hasn’t RT made a comment, what’s up with him?

Llefain
Llefain
2 months ago

I wasn’t aware culture was only allowed to be pro Con or apolitical, that’ll be news to… most of culture. Nice one to the Horns. Hopefully some of the money can be put towards hiring a better new Eb tenor horn player and training them in appropriate etiquette and decorum to satisfy the silencing manners required by the overlords. Best of luck to you bois. You do us proud. Make sure to have a champagne toast in the name of Tom Giffard. 😉 (I had a pun-ish name to call him but I don’t think it would pass muster, he… Read more »

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George Thomas
George Thomas
2 months ago

Barry Horns are sometimes too passionate and too quick to post on Twitter.

If Welsh Tories see Barry Horns as priority issue, as second biggest party in The Senedd, then we’re in trouble really.

Rob
Rob
2 months ago

I’m sure that there are some pretty unsavoury England football supporters group who receive UK government grants from the taxpayer. What do the Tories have to say about that?

Last edited 2 months ago by Rob
Gareth
Gareth
2 months ago

At last, after weeks of silence the Tory party here make a statement. Is it about the collapse of sterling, is it about the increase of interest rates, or is it about the extra cost to business of imports? No, its to complain about a group of musicians getting a grant, not £37 billion mind, that was ok, as was taxpayers money funding parties in No10. What a pathetic loathsome bunch of whingebags.

Last edited 2 months ago by Gareth
Y Cymro
Y Cymro
2 months ago

Again the little England Welsh Conservatives are whining. for the sake of whining. Why don’t they just shut up for once. Nausating is an understament. Anyway why do they care, they’ll be supporting England in the World Cup in Qatar.

Turncoat Tory spokeman Tom Giffard criticises funding to the Barty Hornes because they had the nerve to criticise the Welsh Conservatives in their music and Twitter posts. And he referred to them as Welsh Nationalists, shock horror, forgetting Wales is a nation, the Barty Hornes are proud to be Welsh.and their music reflects this. Grow a backbone Tom.

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