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Campaign group launches new attack on Welsh smacking ban

16 Apr 2023 3 minute read
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A campaign group which supports the physical chastisement of children has attacked legislation in Wales which bans smacking.

Be Reasonable, which fought unsuccessfully against the Welsh smacking ban, has called for an evaluation of the “dangerous experiment” after the UK Government rejected calls to introduce similar legislation in England.

Physically punishing children was made illegal in Wales in March 2022 when the new law came into force, leaving England as the only nation in Britain where it is legal to slap a child.

Sceptical

In comments reported by the Christian Institute, Simon Calvert, a spokesman for the Be Reasonable campaign, said “In Wales, the administration was all over the place on smacking as they tried to sell the policy to a highly sceptical public.”

Mr Calvert said: “The former First Minister, Carwen Jones, even said in a public meeting that he smacked his own children. In the Welsh Parliament the then Children’s Minister admitted that a parent picking up their toddler because they were having a tantrum in a shop would be breaking the law if the reasonable chastisement defence were repealed.

“This made a mockery of the Welsh administration’s repeated claim that the legislation would not criminalise loving parents. Their own impact assessment said the price tag for the ban could top £7.8 million, including nearly a million (£964K) for extra policing. This figure did not include the cost to social services and the family courts, which they admitted was unknown.

“This is why we welcome this sensible decision by the Government in Westminster to reject these ideologically driven calls to scrap reasonable chastisement.” He added: “We all want children to be safe and well cared for. But we need solutions that work, and which support hard-pressed parents instead of criminalising them.”

Protection from assault

Marking the anniversary of the ban last month, Tracey Holdsworth, from NSPCC Cymru, told ITV Wales: “Findings from early 2022 show that in Wales, almost two thirds of people disagree with the physical punishment of children, and there is now also a solid majority who hold a similar view in England.

“As we now mark one year since the new law came into effect in Wales, we hope even more people will come to the conclusion that children deserve the same protection from assault as given to adults.”

The legislation introduced by the Welsh Government removed what it called “the archaic 160-year-old legal defence” and provides children with the same protection from assault as adults.

Under the Children (Abolition of Defence of Reasonable Punishment) (Wales) Act 2020 all types of physical punishment, such as smacking, hitting, slapping and shaking, are now illegal.

Wales First Minister Mark Drakeford hailed the legislation as a “historic achievement for children and their rights.”


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Karl
Karl
1 year ago

Christians wanting to abuse kids, not shocked. Children should always have same rights as adults towards safety from abuse

hdavies15
hdavies15
1 year ago
Reply to  Karl

Maybe those campaigners just need a clip around the earhole or a strap on the backside to clear their minds of their odd urges.

adopted cardi
adopted cardi
1 year ago
Reply to  Karl

You don’t hit someone you love.

Mihangel Ap Williams
Mihangel Ap Williams
1 year ago

Lol religion hates change don’t they. I mean imagine fighting to hit kids 🤣🤣🤣 you can’t make it up

Glwyo
Glwyo
1 year ago

It’s not clear to me what these costs would be. If it’s the cost of investigating people who have been reported to social services for hitting children then the objection is laughable, as they should be investigated even without the smacking ban.

George Thomas
George Thomas
1 year ago

There were psychological studies done circa 10 years with results showing positive effect of smacking in very early years (I can’t remember precisely but say as an example up to 18 months) but no positive impact after that and starting to introduce negative effect on child. I haven’t read anything to dispel this since. Whether it’s legal or illegal, whether police time is spent on it or not, it seems clear that it’s a bad parenting technique from very, very early age. Is this group so desperate to challenge political overstep (or whatever they’re against) that they’re supporting bad parenting… Read more »

Karl
Karl
1 year ago
Reply to  George Thomas

Hitting a baby yuck

Last edited 1 year ago by Karl
Y Cymro
Y Cymro
1 year ago

Again we have the religious right preaching ‘woke ‘interference from the nanny state. Who on their travels have witnessed mothers & fathers excessively hit their children, only then to drag them kicking & screaming across the floor in a supermarket. Worse still. The parents then become hostile & abusive to those concerned shoppers who pointing their lack of parenting skills. I’ve often heard the those in favour of smacking say a light tap is needed to instill discipline. The reality is often the stressed parent in a fit of anger effectively assaults their child . Only recently we’ve had cases… Read more »

Blinedig
Blinedig
1 year ago
Reply to  Y Cymro

Well said. This seems to be a mindset of “toxic masculinity” that includes the same traits as misogyny, aggressive driving and more (please add your own examples).

Leigh Richards
Leigh Richards
1 year ago

“A campaign group which supports hitting children has attacked legislation in Wales which bans hitting children”….corrected it for you 😉

LMP
LMP
1 year ago

I find it disgusting that people are disputing this legislation. The law is a very positive step forward, in my opinion.

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