Christian teaching assistant loses tribunal claim for religious discrimination against Cardiff school

Martin Shipton
A teaching assistant’s claim that he was harassed and discriminated against by a high school because of his Christian beliefs has been rejected by an Employment Tribunal.
Ben Dybowski clashed with Marc Belli, the headteacher of Bishop of Llandaff Church in Wales High School in Cardiff, after stridently asserting his right to express within the school his views against same-sex marriage, abortion and Islam.
He called Mr Belli “the wokest headteacher he had known”, said he would sack him if he could and covertly recorded Mr Belli as they had a heated argument.
Subsequently Mr Dybowski mounted a high profile media campaign with the help of the right wing Free Speech Union, during which he was portrayed as someone who had been persecuted because of his Christian beliefs.
Training day
In March 2023 the school organised a training day for staff. The focus of the training was navigating conversations where controversial topics may be discussed by pupils. The purpose of the training was to ensure that staff were comfortable and confident about challenging things being said without suppressing the children’s rights to express their views.
Around 150 staff were in attendance at the training. The trainer was covering sex and gender within the Equality Act. Mr Dybowski decided to ask the trainer about his personal beliefs.
He wanted to know if expressing his beliefs could be discrimination and gave examples of his views. Mr Dybowski said his view was that true marriage is a union between a man and a woman, acknowledging that other options are legally recognised in Britain and stating that he could “just about tolerate this”.
Mr Dybowski went on to say that human life begins at conception and words to the effect that “abortion was the murder of innocent life for unborn children”.
Highly charged language
The tribunal judgement said this was highly charged language and Mr Dybowski’s belief was not therefore expressed in temperate terms. It was likely to have caused offence and upset to people attending, in particular but not limited to people who may have been affected by abortion due to rape or health reasons.
Mr Dybowski said he was critical of some aspects of Sharia law but did not say what these criticisms were. He did not, as was later claimed to the media, cite examples such as the stoning of men for homosexuality or of women for adultery.
Mr Belli said he had been particularly concerned about negative comments made by the teaching assistant about gender identity as two non binary staff had just discussed their “lived experiences”.
Mr Belli was very concerned at the turn of the discussion and intervened to end Mr Dybowski’s interaction with the trainer. He spoke to remind everyone of the school’s values.
Following the session Mr Belli was approached by three members of staff raising concerns about what the claimant had said. Teacher C told Mr Belli that the claimant had previously openly spoken of his views against female ordination and that could have been overheard by sixth form students.
Discussion club
Prior to Mr Belli’s meeting with Mr Dybowski on March 24 2023 he was contacted by Teacher A regarding a suggestion by the claimant the previous month that he set up a discussion club.
The school already had a debating club run by qualified individuals. Mr Dybowski had suggested a number of topics for discussion, including whether illegal migrants crossing the English Channel should immediately be sent back to France or their native countries and whether capital punishment could ever be ever justified. The club was not set up.
When Mr Belli met Mr Dybowski the discussion became acrimonious, with the teaching assistant telling the headteacher he was the wokest headteacher he had ever met and that he would sack him, given the opportunity. He said he was being judged as if he was guilty of “thought crime”. Mr Belli told him he was entitled to his views but that they were inappropriate in a school environment.
Mr Dybowski said: “I think it’s ridiculous and I think this is the demise of the West, you know.”
It emerged that Mr Dybowski had previously misgendered a vulnerable trans pupil at another school in Cardiff and had been asked to leave.
The tribunal rejected Mr Dybowski’s claims.
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When anyone invokes the vacuous and brain-dead epithet ‘woke’, I just stop listening.
Which may be unfair to them, because if they weren’t so dull as to employ that term, I might continue to listen and even conclude that they have some degree of real grievance.
Best, maybe, to just think a bit before you adopt the vocabulary of the Trumptards ovet there and the ‘Daily Mail’ over here?
When ever anyone starts talking about a gendered inner ‘self’ I shut off too!
No disagreement from me there.
This is yet again an example of a prejudiced person gaslighting those around them to claim they are the victim. If a person is this bigoted, and therefore can’t keep themselves in check, they certainly shouldn’t be working with young minds like those of school children. I am glad his gaslighting claims were rejected by an Employment Tribunal. Let this be a lesson to bigots, grow up or get out!
The only people being gaslit here are the kids. They’re being taught ideological claptrap like gender identity as if it’s established fact.
It really worries me that most of your posts divert straight to some sort of abuse of children. That really isn’t the sign of a healthy mind.
My eyes roll every time someone refers to GCSE Biology, forgetting that A Level and Degree based Human Biology explains a very different set of facts.
Says the religious bigot himself
Freedom of conscience no longer seems to exist in Wales. Poor man. Persecuted because of his Christian beliefs. For shame.
Just don’t go near the teaching profession, unless you’re prepared to accept 2+2=5.
There’s having beliefs and someone else’s right to exist in an environment in which they are free to live without feeling they’re unsafe. This is a balancing act, but ultimately people, especially children, need to feel safe. A child has to attend the nearest school, a member of staff can work at any school.
fsu again? Oh well, grifters gotta grift.
So many hurt feelings on the right. Maybe they just need a hug.
Anyone can be accused of thought crime these days, and your employer will throw you under the bus without a second thought – especially in the public sector.
https://freespeechunion.org/
Not really correct but for balance on the fsu.
https://bylinetimes.com/2020/12/08/alt-right-pseudoscience-part-2-the-free-speech-union-and-scientific-racism/
Part one is useful as well.
https://bylinetimes.com/2020/12/04/alt-right-pseudoscience-part-1-lockdown-sceptics/
I think you’ll find that throughout history it’s been the far right that’s locked people up and killed them for their political and social views. Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany come to mind. I mean next thing you’ll be telling me that Britain fought Communists, not Fascists and Nazis during World War 2 🙄🤨
If you could secretly press a button and disappear all 48% Remainers are you saying you wouldn’t be a little bit tempted?
Blimey, for people who scream a lot about being offended, they don’t half scream a lot that they’re offended.
Far right extremist views and child abuse often make good bed fellows. It’s for the best that he’s kept away.
It’s amazing how the loudest people on gender know so little about it. Here’s a biological fact for you 1 in 600 men have an XYX chromosome, as oppose to most men who have an XY chromosome. Here’s another one for you for the first four months of pregnancy the Zygote/Embryo/Foetus has no gender at all. I guess GCSE Biology never presented those facts to the loudmouth individuals who think they’re experts on human biology. It’s almost as if they don’t know what they’re talking about.
Most who scream about anything gender related didn’t even leave school with any qualifications. They’ll just comment on something to make them feel edgy and relevant to make up for their failings in the “school of life”
😂😂 Oh dear 😂😂 Questioning people’s education and qualifications. I actually have a qualification in GCSE Biology, but understand from talking to Doctors and Biologists that the subject, just like others, is simplified at the beginning and expanded upon the further you get into it. No direct response to the biological facts I see. Why is that?
How to exclude yourself from the teaching profession 101