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Conservative councillor referred to Public Services Ombudsman over ‘outrageous’ slavery comments

12 Apr 2023 5 minute read
Pembrokeshire Council’s offices. Photo by joysaphine, licensed under CC BY-NC 2.0 – Inset Cllr Andrew Edwards

Martin Shipton

A Welsh Conservative councillor has referred himself to the Public Services Ombudsman over a recording in which he appears to say that all white men should have a black slave.

The appalling comment can be heard in a 16-second clip that was sent to Rhian Young, the monitoring officer at Pembrokeshire County Council.

Ms Young is understood to have recognised the voice on the recording as that of Tory councillor Andrew Edwards, who has represented the Haverfordwest Prendergast ward on the authority since May 2022.

The clip, which is self-contained and without a wider context, sounds as if it may have been recorded in a car, and there is the voice of at least one young child in the background.

The male adult voice, which several people who have heard it say is undoubtedly that of Cllr Edwards, says: “Nothing wrong with the skin colour at all. I think all white men should have a black man as a slave or black woman as a slave, you know. There’s nothing wrong with skin colour, it’s just that they’re lower class than us white people, you know.”

Outrageous

A senior council source told us: “These racist comments are absolutely outrageous and simply cannot be tolerated.

“I have heard the recording and there is no doubt that they were made by Andrew Edwards.

“He can’t even put forward the pathetic excuse that they were meant as a joke.

“This is clearly a resigning matter. He cannot come back from this.

“The Conservative Party will not want to be associated with anything of this kind and he will have to be suspended.

“If he hadn’t referred himself to the Ombudsman, I’m sure he would have been referred anyway.”

In response to our questions, Cllr Edwards did not deny that the voice on the recording was his.

Instead he issued a written statement which said: “I am aware of such serious allegations being made against me.

“This is why I have self referred to the Public Services Ombudsman for an independent evaluation.

“It is now in the hands of legal experts and the Ombudsman.

“It would be unfair on the process for me to comment now.”

The Conservative leader in the Senedd, Andrew RT Davies, called the comments “disgraceful, abhorrent” and views that were “not shared by the Welsh Conservatives”.

Cllr Di Clements, leader of the Conservative group on Pembrokeshire County Council, said: “These are extremely serious allegations. It has been mutually agreed that Cllr Edwards will leave the group while the matter is under investigation.”

A spokesman for Pembrokeshire County Council’s Labour group said: “The views contained within this recording are disgusting. People in Pembrokeshire, and in particular, in the Prendergast ward of Haverfordwest will be shocked by the comments allegedly made by Cllr Edwards.

“Racism has absolutely no place in our society, let alone in the views expressed by an elected member on Pembrokeshire County Council.”

Magistrate

As well as being a councillor, Cllr Edwards is a former magistrate and, according to his entry in Pembrokeshire County Council’s Register of Members’ Interests, a Freemason.

He works as a self-employed hairdresser for Freestyle Barbers in Haverfordwest and, again according to the council’s Register of Members’ Interests, is licensee of the Coach House pub and restaurant in Wind Street, Swansea.

He is also a governor of Prendergast Primary School in Haverfordwest.

The Ombudsman is likely to decide within six weeks whether to launch a formal investigation into Cllr Edwards.

As a councillor he is expected to abide by the Code of Conduct for members of local authorities in Wales, Clause 7 of which states: “Members must carry out their duties and responsibilities with due regard to the need to promote equality of opportunity for all people, regardless of their gender, race, disability, sexual orientation, age or religion, and show respect and consideration for others.”

If a formal investigation into Cllr Edwards takes place, the Ombudsman could decide to refer the matter to Pembrokeshire County Council’s standards committee or to the Adjudication Panel for Wales.

In the most serious cases, the Adjudication Panel can decide to disqualify a councillor from holding office for up to five years.

The Magistrates’ Association said: “The reported comments are disgusting and there is no place in the magistracy for anyone found to have made such comments.

“The judiciary has in place a procedure for investigating cases of misconduct and taking action. We understand that the individual in question ceased being a magistrate in July 2022. He is not a member of our organisation.

“The magistracy is the most diverse part of the judiciary. Fourteen per cent of magistrates come from ethnic minority backgrounds, which is broadly in line with the population as a whole.

“However, we know there is more to do. The magistracy must be a welcoming place that reflects our diverse society, and anyone who does not like that should leave.”


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Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
1 year ago

That must be a first!

Freemason, Councillor, Primary School Governor, Publican, Hairdresser and Racist…

John Williams
John Williams
1 year ago
Reply to  Mab Meirion

… and a magistrate!

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
1 year ago
Reply to  John Williams

Not once in all the fuss about the London Met did I hear or read any mention of the Thursday Night Club…Good on you N.C…

Rhufawn Jones
Rhufawn Jones
1 year ago
Reply to  Mab Meirion

A hairdresser! Looks like he cuts his own hair from his picture. It’s got bits sticking out everywhere! I’d never go to him for a trim. I’ll stick to the good old sheep shearers and give the money saved to Yes Cymru. Ymlaen mae Canaan.

Karl
Karl
1 year ago

I would be shocked, but racism has never been tackled head on. And media circus around Johnson, Farage and other right wing creeps, allows the sense of freedom to spout such hate. He must be punished for this, no matter the possible investigation.

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
1 year ago
Reply to  Karl

‘The Fat Shanks Effect’. Max Hastings, his old boss said without humour that he should be buried at the crossroads with a wooden stake through his heart. It was on LBC with Andrew Marr and I found it quite cathartic…

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
1 year ago

The Conservatives besides attracting racists like Cllr Andrew Edwards are at heart an anti-Welsh party. It was the Tories who introduced the 19th century Welsh Not campaign that meant Welsh children were mentally & physically abused for speaking their own language at school. A party that drafted the blue book slur of 1847 that referred to the Welsh as immoral, stupid, and was derogatory towards the Welsh language. The Tory party in government were involved in some of the most disgusting acts during the British Empire, where thousands were murdered. abuse was rife in the colonies, black people were enslaved… Read more »

Peter Cuthbert
Peter Cuthbert
1 year ago
Reply to  Y Cymro

The leadership in Westminster continues to push this idea of ‘second class’ people in the speeches of Suella B and elsewhere. It is, we must remember, one aspect of the Market Fundmentalist world view that anybody who is not a millionaire and might need some state support is a ‘burden’. The make up of the current Westminster Regime suggets that money rather then ethnicity is the key. My feeling (But unsupported by decent research) is that white supremacism is more of a white ‘working class’ attitude. So, it is not too surprising to see these dreadful comments emerge from a… Read more »

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter Cuthbert

I see their present set-up as a form of armour to deflect and protect the donors after all the Commons is just that…

Kefie
Kefie
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter Cuthbert

To Peter Cuthbert, Entirely agree with your comments! It is not before time that ALL true British People stood up to be counted! Roll on the next election!

Kefie
Kefie
1 year ago
Reply to  Y Cymro

Y Cymro, Agree with you completely. This man – Councillor Andrew Edwards, Conservative Member for Prendergast, ought to be dismissed from his job – forthwith!
He is not fit to walk this planet! I am a white British man – eighty seven years of age and have always voted Conservative! Never again! Whilst these people are allowed to say such things – even beleive them – they should should be thrown into a prison and the keys thown away!

Llyn
Llyn
1 year ago

When you have the leader of the Welsh Conservatives attacking anyone who wants to see statutes honouring slavers removed as anti British, is there any surprise that some members of the party see his words as giving a green light to racism?

Wynn
Wynn
1 year ago

It’s amazing people still think like that. Baffling.

John Hammond
John Hammond
1 year ago

As Trump might well say, “Lock him up!”

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