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David TC Davies says he wouldn’t give power to Wales to change gender laws

15 Feb 2023 2 minute read
David TC Davies on Politics Wales

Welsh Secretary David TC Davies has said he would not give any power to the Welsh Government to change gender recognition laws.

Speaking during a Sharp End interview which aired on ITV on Tuesday night, the Secretary of State for Wales said: “I don’t want to see the Welsh Government getting powers to do what they want to do, which is to enable the most vulnerable people… the most vulnerable people I know are female prisoners.

“We had a prison governor come into the Welsh affairs select committee saying that over 90% had been the victims of physical or sexual abuse.

“The idea that somebody who is a male, somebody who has committed the act of rape, who is a male – and in the case of this person in Scotland, he is a he, should be put into a prison with vulnerable female prisoners is totally unacceptable and that should not be allowed.”

Mr Davies was referring to convicted rapist Isla Bryson who had committed the offences when she was a man.

Bryson was later transferred to HMP Edinburgh which houses male prisoners.

Compassion

Plaid Cymru’s Westminster leader Liz Saville hit back at The Welsh Secretary accusing him of “bland populism” and saying the issue needed to be approached with “compassion” as the issue relates to some of the “most vulnerable people in the world”.

Liz Saville said: “Now this is something I have no experience of myself, I think as politicians, when you’re dealing with a tiny minority of people, we should approach this with compassion and not allow it to become a political football in the way that it has.”

Mr Davies ended the debate by saying “It’s not going to happen.”

The Welsh Government unveiled its new LGBTQ+ action plan last week and said it would start negotiating with the UK Government to devolve powers relating to gender recognition.

Deputy Minister for Social Partnership, Hannah Blythyn and Leader of Plaid Cymru, Adam Price – who are open members of the LGBTQ+ community – launched the plan on Tuesday.


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Gareth
Gareth
1 year ago

Nothing new here, as this man does not want any power devolved to the Senedd, full stop, If he had his way he would concentrate all powers at Westminster. Remember his answer to Tory’s here calling for Cymru to get its fair share of HS2 money.

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
1 year ago

Another one telling the people of Cymru what they can and can’t have…

From the Thames to the Bay it is Mr Bumble the Beadle…

Wrexhie
Wrexhie
1 year ago

If there is such a massive issue with potential sexual assaults in the prison system, why arent the Tories doing something about that?

Right now they are just stoking some culture war like in the US as they have lost all credibility and would rather brand a small minority as potential rapists in some misguided hopes that people don’t see they can’t put food on the table because of them.

Rob
Rob
1 year ago

Its hardly headline news that David TC Davies is opposed to any kind of further devolution is it. What was noticeable however was Shadow Welsh secretary Jo Stevens who was also on the Sharp End panel, also opposed gender devolution. Her argument being “because we are part of the UK”. Well Scotland is also part of the UK as well. This is where I would like to see politicians get challenged more. Why justify Scotland and Northern Ireland having more devolution than Wales? Regardless of what our views are on gender reform, its not for Westminster to interfere in devolved… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by Rob
Ernie The Smallholder
Ernie The Smallholder
1 year ago

There is good and bad in all communities.

One person as a man committing rape against a woman and then deciding to become a woman should not be the catalyst to deny the rights of a whole community.

This is how victimisation (and racism) begins.

Of course, anyone committing violent crimes against a person such as rape, should be punished and the person in question should not be allowed access to be a danger to any vulnerable persons.

Rhufawn Jones
Rhufawn Jones
1 year ago

He’d oppose passing any laws to Cymru – not just gender laws. A typical bootlicking imperialist. Campaigned for a No vote in the devolution campaigns, and has served in the oppressor’s army. Also claimed expenses and paid it to his family’s haulage fund. Un o elynion y genedl Gymreig.

Gareth Westacott
Gareth Westacott
1 year ago

I think the Welsh people should be able legislate on any issue. It’s just that I don’t think a man can become a woman. And I don’t think it’s right that a man, a convicted rapist, can just declare himself a woman and demand to be sent to a woman’s prison where he’ll have access to more victims. That is mad! But if the pro-indepence movement caves in to Trans ideolgy, then that will be a big turn-off for ordinary, sensible Welsh people. Don’t touch it with a bargepole!

Last edited 1 year ago by Gareth Westacott
Ivor Schilling
Ivor Schilling
1 year ago

Agreed.

Frank
Frank
1 year ago

Bottom line here is he wouldn’t give Wales anything if he can help it!!

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
1 year ago

Trust you Liz, to speak from the heart… The present dirty tricks team in No.10 are, I think, a result of Cummings and Fat Shanks’ reading up on the last years of Chamberlain for his Churchill book. In all this time I have never seen a single copy but I am familiar with the subject (but for ref. see Richard Cockett’s Twilight of Truth)… I bet Rishi was so grateful for the totally ‘off the front page day’ he has had, thanks to Nicola and all media compliant in keeping us in the dark about whatever skulduggery they have been… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by Mab Meirion
Rhian Davies
Rhian Davies
1 year ago

Hi, I have no objection to anyone objecting to feeling stereotyped negatively as a ‘man’ for example, and wanting to trans to a ‘woman’. But surely they need to be prepared professionally for the eventuality that they might not like being a ‘woman’ either, once they realise the realities of being the thing they’ve wanted to become! The danger is, by the time they discover they don’t like being on the other side, it’ll be too late, if they’ve risked their very life by lacerating their genitals – to cross-over, only to find that the grass is no greener as… Read more »

hdavies15
hdavies15
1 year ago
Reply to  Rhian Davies

Fair comments there Rhian. The bit you don’t mention is that the loudest protests and ranting comes from those men who have no intention of doing the hard bit of transition – the “lop op” as you call it. They get a sexual buzz from getting the girlie gear on and going about their shouty lives, which suggests that they have no intention of making a real change. Transvestites not transgenders. In my community we have a small number of young people who are mid transit. They are supported by their families and all sorts of folk from their local… Read more »

Malcolm Jones
Malcolm Jones
1 year ago

Nothing new from this traitor to Wales just working his ticket to the house of Lords

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
1 year ago
Reply to  Malcolm Jones

Don’t twist the knife…

I heard Clark Kent say he was going to abolish the Lords…

GarethW
GarethW
1 year ago

the Secretary of State for Wales said: “I don’t want to see the Welsh Government getting powers to do what they want to do… completely sums the clown up

Riki
Riki
1 year ago

The one thing these Tories are right about his how the Welsh are British. They’re incorrect on pretty much every other aspect. Including the Cymro right to self determination. If independence comes about with the sacrifice of thousands of years worth of Cymro History, I would have to think twice. We are not Welsh, We are Cymro Britons (British). We shouldn’t be denying our Britishness, we should be denying Englands.

Last edited 1 year ago by Riki
Karl
Karl
1 year ago

He opposes democracy at a country level. Ironic for a brexit traitor

Rob
Rob
1 year ago
Reply to  Karl

Hear hear!!. If Westminster tried to pass a law but was blocked by Brussels the Tories would be screaming bloody murder

Owain Morgan
Owain Morgan
1 year ago

David TC Davies is Transphobic. I’m not surprised in the least. Far too much Transphobia right across this island, fed by both far right and far left propaganda on the subject.

The thing that is worse at the moment though is that the Tories are attempting to use Transgendered persons as a political tool to regain popularity with voters. It’s disgusting!! How many Transgendered people have to die before this island wakes up and sees the reality of the situation!?! I won’t hold my breath!!

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