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Dozens of stretches of road could revert to 30mph speed limits

07 Jan 2025 2 minute read
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Nicholas Thomas, local democracy reporter

Dozens of stretches of road in one local authority could revert to 30mph speed limits, the Local Democracy Reporting Service understands.

Caerphilly Council officers will have to carry out detailed traffic surveys on those roads before any final decisions are made, however.

The ongoing review follows the lowering of Wales’ default speed limit to 20mph in September 2023.

Welsh transport secretary Ken Skates launched a “national listening programme” last year, aimed at consulting the members of the public on roads they thought should not have been included in the switch to 20mph.

Controversial

Although the lower speed limits were introduced for health and road safety reasons, the decision proved controversial and led to protests and a Senedd petition demanding change, signed by a record number of people.

Changes at the top of the Welsh Government were followed by a softer approach to the policy, involving more consultation with people and opening the door for some roads to be reconsidered.

In Caerphilly, it is understood 55 roads have been accepted for review by the local authority.

Residents had reportedly filed requests for roughly twice that number of roads, but the remainder did not meet the government’s strict criteria for potential change.

This could have been because those stretches of road were too close to sensitive areas such as schools, for example.

Traffic Regulation Orders

If Welsh councils are able to show it is safe to revert a stretch of road back to 30mph, they will have to issue Traffic Regulation Orders for each area, offering people a further chance to have their say.

It is understood that Caerphilly County Borough Council will carry out traffic surveys until the spring.

Councils were given a share of an extra £5 million in government funding to carry out the review of roads – and that follows an initial £38 million spent nationwide on the 20mph policy to August 2024.

Cllr Kevin Etheridge, an independent from Blackwood, said decision-makers “should have listened” before making the switch to 20mph.

While welcoming the review, he criticised the “additional cost to the taxpayer” and said the ongoing process had placed further pressure on stretched local authorities.


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blc
blc
10 hours ago

So… what you’re saying is… a council is reviewing the default speed limit on a number of restricted roads… meaning that they’re exercising the power that the legislation grants to local authorities… So… are you saying that the legislation is… working as intended…? This is all news to me… Based on all the discourse I’ve seen about the default speed limit change, I always thought that it was a bunch overpaid jobsworth bureaucrats in Cardiff Bay that were deciding which roads should be 20mph, and that they were making decisions based purely on how many free drinks they’d had from… Read more »

John Ellis
John Ellis
10 hours ago
Reply to  blc

While this doesn’t, from what I see locally, seem to have happened in Denbighshire where I live, from what I’ve read I do get the impression that some local authorities seem to have pretty much adopted a policy of imposing a 20 mph speed limit on any section of road which is provided with street lights, regardless of whether the road has a lot of residential or commercial premises along it, with all the consequential increased footfall which that implies. I suspect that quite a bit of the opposition to the ’20 limit’ might have been mitigated if the restriction… Read more »

blc
blc
3 hours ago
Reply to  John Ellis

Don’t get me wrong, the rollout was terrible. The communication was poor and the support & engagement with local authorities was atrocious. So I can certainly see why many councils would just go “eh, 20mph will do, we’ve got other problems to worry about”.

John Ellis
John Ellis
56 minutes ago
Reply to  blc

I think that you’re probably right in taking that view. Personally I’m quite easy with the principle of the 20 mph limit, because the evidence already – a fall in reports of serious road accidents and fewer accident insurance claims – is that less road accidents are now occurring.

But it does seem to be the case that some local authorities would have been wiser to have given more consideration to the actual process of where, in specific instances, the new rule ought to be appropriately applied.

Last edited 55 minutes ago by John Ellis
A Evans
A Evans
9 hours ago

Thousands of 30mph & 60mph roads were “adjusted” by the blanket speed limit ban. Just “dozens” reverted back. This corrupt Senedd is still not listening to the voters, but are extracting the ur*n* with this offer!

Jeff
Jeff
8 hours ago
Reply to  A Evans

They had it in the manifesto, there was a vote on it. Point 9 in their list of promises.

Which corruption are you unhappy with?

Barry
Barry
7 hours ago
Reply to  A Evans

Because most are fine at twenty and people didn’t want them reverted.

blc
blc
2 hours ago
Reply to  A Evans

I think I must have missed something here… Did the Welsh government ban blankets? Or was it speed limits they banned?

Incidentally, they did listen to voters. They listened to voters when voters elected Labour to power in Cardiff Bay, because the default speed limit reduction was in the Labour manifesto. *You* might not have voted for Labour, but I’m afraid that’s just how representative democracy works – your favoured candidate isn’t guaranteed to win.

And speaking of representative democracy… a badly-written partisan rant in a petition is not the basis for the legislative agenda in a representative democracy.

Hughie
Hughie
59 minutes ago
Reply to  blc

Well said!

Hughie
Hughie
1 hour ago
Reply to  A Evans

What 60 was blanket adjusted?…. not one.

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