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First Minister says ‘no’ to MS’s calls to axe 20mph policy

08 Nov 2023 4 minute read
Mark Drakeford during FMQs.

Emily Price

The First Minister, Mark Drakeford has again given a one-word response when asked if the Welsh Government will be reversing the 20mph default speed limit.

His answer came during FMQs on Tuesday (November 7) in response to a question from Conservative MS and Shadow Minister for Culture, Tourism and Sport, Tom Giffard who asked a question about Wales’ public transport system.

Road regulation

Speaking in the chamber, Mr Giffard said: “As the Welsh Government moves towards a policy of modal shift, taking us out of our cars and on to public transport, you’d think the Welsh Government would provide a decent public transport system to ensure that could happen.

“But, unfortunately, the Welsh Government’s war on motorists has been met with a similar approach to public transport. Not only have bus subsidies been cut, leading to reductions in routes and timetables across Wales, but we’ve also seen the default 20 mph scheme causing chaos with bus timetabling too.

“Arriva Bus, last month, said the new limit is causing ‘challenging operational conditions’. And I spoke to a bus company in my region, Adventure Travel, who were only too happy to say that 20mph is, ‘causing running times issues’, and they were also looking at the possibility of amending timetables as a result. So, First Minister, it’s clear that this 20 mph policy is failing. Is now not the time to withdraw it?”

Mr Drakeford responded by simply saying: “No, Llywydd.”

After his answer, laughter could be heard from Senedd Members sat in the chamber.

This is not the first time Mr Giffard, regional member for South Wales West, has been answered by the First Minister in such a way on the controversial topic of the 20mph road regulation.

Road signs

On September 19, two days after the roll out of the new speed limit, Mr Giffard asked whether the the First Minister would “rescind his disastrous 20mph scheme”.

Mr Drakeford replied: “No, Llywydd.”

On another occasion in September during FMQs, Mr Giffard raised the issue of vandalised 20mph road signs.

He said the First Minister’s “dismissive” answer the previous week didn’t help with the public’s perception that the Welsh Government isn’t listening them.

The Tory MS asked: “We’ve seen people, unfortunately, in all parts of Wales vandalising road signs as an expression of that frustration. Now, I condemn that vandalism, but I wonder whether the First Minister does too.

“I ask because I noticed an interview with the BBC when he first became First Minister. You talked about Welsh language protests in the 1960s and said that trashing road signs, was, and I quote, ‘a fantastic thing’ to do.

“So, do you endorse the vandalism of the road signs of today, or, if not, how do you justify your position in light of your past comments? Or, as usual, is it one rule for the Welsh Government, and one rule for everybody else?”

Mr Drakeford responded: “I don’t intend to be drawn into the trivialising of an important debate in the way that the Member has attempted this afternoon.”

The Welsh Conservatives have heavily opposed the new road regulation and thrown their support behind the 20mph petition which has become the most signed in Senedd history at over 465,000 signatures.

Speaking to Nation.Cymru after FMQs, Mr Giffard said: “It’s disappointing that the First Minister repeatedly refuses to answer my questions on his default 20mph scheme.

“This issue has garnered the largest number of signatures ever on a Senedd petition, so it’s clearly something that people care strongly about across the country.

“In refusing to answer time and again, the First Minister is disrespecting both the Senedd as an institution and the people of Wales.”

Nation.Cymru invited the First Minister to comment but he did not wish to add anything further.

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Neil Anderson
Neil Anderson
6 months ago

“Best be five minutes late in this world than five minutes early in the next”

6 months ago

Here we go, Cons “war on motorist”. As amplified at the national convention of the Tory party along with the other conspiracy theories they pushed. And some waffle from the sword bearer.

War on motorists. OK, my insurance is through the roof, repair bills are high, tyre prices way up, fuel costs gone through the roof, that is a war on the motorist. UK government led including big hits from brexit.

But 20mph, grrrrr.

Richard 1
Richard 1
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff

Now there’s balance!

Richard 1
Richard 1
6 months ago

Disgraceful opportunistic tory flip-flop. It won’t lessen the coming Westminster wipe-out

Richard Davies
Richard Davies
6 months ago

I really do like Mr Drakeford’s succinctness and brevity with his one word answer of ‘no.’

It disgusts me when the tories say there should be investment in this or that, when Wales is dependent on the westminster government for its budget, that has seen a cut greater than 10% in real terms!

If the tories were ever to be in government in Wales, we would be far worse off (and I would move to Scotland)!

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