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Future Prince of Wales? Welsh fans react to William celebrating England win

30 Jun 2021 3 minutes Read
Prince William. By Frankie Fouganthin (CC 4.0)

Welsh fans have been questioning whether the Duke of Cambridge should become the Prince of Wales after he celebrated England’s win against Germany.

The senior royal, who is in line for the title after his father, Prince Charles, ascends to the British throne, pumped his fists in the air during the 2-0 victory against the Germans at Wembley.

After the match, the official Twitter account for The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge tweeted: “Incredible performance @England!”

The photos got mixed reviews from Welsh fans on social media, with some wondering how his celebration squared with his future role, with the popular folk musician the Welsh Whisperer saying: “Prince of Wales my arse!”.

But some social media users came to his defence by pointing out that he is a patron of the English FA and that his father is the incumbent.

Since the 14th century, the dynastic title granted has been by the king or queen to the heir apparent to the English or British monarch.

This was after one of the last Llywelyn ap Gruffudd, one of the last Welsh princes was killed at the Battle of Orewin Bridge in 1282 and his lands were annexed.

William is patron of the WRU has been seen at international rugby matches in Cardiff wearing a Wales jersey.

Raymond Southorn said: “Will be interesting when he does become the Prince of Wales and England play Wales.”

Former Plaid Cymru Senedd member Bethan Sayed said: “Next time you think ‘William Wales’ actually supports Wales at sport, remember this pic!”

Dei Bryn said: “The future Prince of Wales seemed to enjoy something just now.”

Presenter, influencer, and former glamour model Jess Davies said: “The Prince of Wales, but no tweet about Wales Euros?

“DIS MAN WILL BE INHERITING THE TITLE. Displays no enthusiasm for the Welsh. But yah royal family yah hehe.

‘English football’ 

Ben Smith: “He’s not the Prince of Wales. But is the president of English football.

The Welsh Whisperer said: “Prince of Wales my arse!”

Adam Bendle: “I don’t see Owain Glyndŵr in that photo.”

Nigel Williams said: “He’s been as excited in the Welsh Rugby Team”.

Stefan Cartwright said: “He’s cheering because his is patron of the English FA!”

Martin Lewis said: “He’s also the patron of the FA so of course he’s gonna cheer for them”.

Cory Walters said: “To be fair he’s not the prince of Wales.”

Alun Lloyd Davies said: “He is English after all and Charles is the Prince of Wales. Besides, William wears a Welsh rugby jersey so it’s all good.”

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Dafydd Iwan
Dafydd Iwan
3 months ago

It makes perfect sense for him to support England. What doesn’t make sense is to call him Prince of Wales.

Peter Gabriel
Peter Gabriel
3 months ago

What dont the Welsh understand?

England brutally invaded and conquered the Welsh, destroying huge aspects of Welshness over the last 500 years.

The English monarchy through victory and conquest gets to tell you who is prince or not.

Only self rule could rid a nation of a foreign monarchy if the Welsh understood history

Seeing some of the defensive comments, one realises Wales is the land of sycophantic beta males. I used to wonder peopke smirked when I said I was Welsh working across Europe. Colonised people are pitied not admired

Chris
Chris
3 months ago
Reply to  Peter Gabriel

Bit of an inferiority complex there, also historically inaccurate despite your accusations at others. Maybe those people smirking across Europe were smirking at something else than your nationality. I found that they were usually full of questions about a nation they knew little of, or pleased to see someone of a nationality they didn’t see very often. Thing is most nations have been conquered at some time or another. People really don’t care about it in the modern era unless they are CURRENTLY being conquered

j humphrys
j humphrys
3 months ago
Reply to  Chris

Don’t care in the modern era? Whatever that is. Dig deeper and they all have a story, though maybe less in the center of bigger “countries”.

Chris
Chris
3 months ago
Reply to  j humphrys

Er … now. But yeah, they all do.

Chris
Chris
3 months ago

He’s a Germano-English “Prince” in England. He should be allowed to support whoever he wants. They can award him whatever badges they want. They can let him wear whatever shiny hat seems best to them. They can call him prince of our land if they want. But he’s not. Not prince of my nation. Just an empty claim to a non existent throne. Ever since Cymru absorbed England under the rule of Henri Tudur and he gifted it to his son Arthur, this ridiculous hollow honour has existed. But it means exactly jack! Maybe him, Rex Llewellyn, Gondor the Great… Read more »

Last edited 3 months ago by Chris
Bruce
Bruce
3 months ago

Bring on the Welsh Republic!

Quornby
Quornby
3 months ago

Monarchy is a nonsense in the 21st Century albeit generally harmless. Of course there are times when it creates a real and measurable negativity e.g. Johnson wanting to spend £300Million on a new royal yacht while our TVs are full of charity advertisements aimed at well meaning people on pensions or minimum wage. Just imagine, it was only a chronological accident that saved us from King Andrew.

Anna Bin Iaith
Anna Bin Iaith
3 months ago
Reply to  Quornby

I think this is the right place to add this.

As an expatriate teacher of plentyn sais, on a daily basis we are dealing with a different mentality.

Through every interaction with them, I could see that a genuine plant from God’s own country would give a more morally correct and intellectually rigorous answer.

Cymric people have had their superiority subjugated by a people they should be ruling.

William’s illiterate subjects see us as a staycation Benidorm.

Only direct action will overthrow it!

Chris
Chris
3 months ago
Reply to  Anna Bin Iaith

I take your point, but I’d rather we didn’t rule them or they us. HOWEVER, the big genetic study in 2005 revealed that the English are as British as we are. Genetically they are just as connected to the first inhabitants after the thaw as us. There is no more than 5% Saxon in the National genome. Effectively the English are British who were convinced they were Saxons. Some Saxons simply came over and married into or replace the tribal leaders, then later convinced the British in Lloegr that they were Saxons. They are not our enemy. They are our… Read more »

Anna Bin Iaith
Anna Bin Iaith
3 months ago
Reply to  Chris

My experience is there is a dearth of morality in them.

When the Welsh go abroard they are fabulously versed in foreign languages, an appreciation of art and culture.

The Englishman is a monoglot, burnt red and viscious.

The sad thing is that our true brethren the Gaul, Catalan, Alsatian, Bavarian, actually see us part of this ungodly apparition.

Wrexhamian
Wrexhamian
3 months ago
Reply to  Anna Bin Iaith

Draw it mild, mate, this is a site for discussing the situation of Wales, not a club for racial prejudice.

Richard Winder
Richard Winder
3 months ago
Reply to  Anna Bin Iaith

Anna You ‘re in a fantasy !and have you ever seen most of our fellow countrymen in holiday in Spain Greece etc enjoying the all in drinks to excess.Art ,culture,languages,you are not serious.

Alun Edwards
Alun Edwards
3 months ago
Reply to  Richard Winder

Missed point here

Charles Evans
Charles Evans
3 months ago

I’m pretty sure Prince of Wales is just a title – it doesn’t actually give the bearer any power or role in Wales.

It’s arguable that the holder of that title (currently not William) should perhaps show more enthusiasm for Wales. It’s ridiculous, though, to complain about an English-born man celebrating the English football team winning.

Gwraig o Fôn
Gwraig o Fôn
3 months ago
Reply to  Charles Evans

Plenty of Cymros celebrating the win. We have a lot of work to do for independence without making the world see us as petty-minded folk who care about which team ANYone supports.

Anni Bin Iaith
Anni Bin Iaith
3 months ago
Reply to  Gwraig o Fôn

Any Cymro who supports this battalion of colonial prospectors needs to have a long hard look at what they can give to Cymru when we are free of the shackles.

There is no doubt there will be a reckoning for those who collaborated in some form.

New times ahead. Vive la Republique.

j humphrys
j humphrys
3 months ago
Reply to  Charles Evans

One would have to be a horse?

Steve Duggan
Steve Duggan
3 months ago

Enough of this English Prince of Wales lark, Charles should be the last one. We’ve had 700 years of this crap – come on Cymru wake up !

Mark
Mark
3 months ago

Who cares, it’s just a title it means nothing, it gives the holder no jurisdiction over Wales, no law making powers, no rights to interfere or meddle with our country.
Just another royal parasite, abolish the monarchy.

Huw Davies
Huw Davies
3 months ago

To be fair his title is going to be King of England, one day. As far as I’m concerned the more publicly he favours England, the better!

Wrexhamian
Wrexhamian
3 months ago

He’s an Englishman with a colonial title, namely “Prince of Wales”; he’s not a Welsh prince, and he has little or anything meaningful to do with Cymru. He’s harmles, but his title is not poltically irrelevant and is a permanent insult in the eyes of an increasing number of Welsh people. I would be amazed to see him NOT supporting England.
I was hoping we’d seen the last “investiture” courtesy of his dad, but this is one opportunity for unionist P.R. that Boris Johnson won’t be able to resist.

viv
viv
3 months ago

I was just relieved William wasn’t supporting Germany . . . And poor little George loooked bored rigid. And doesn’t he look like the Duke of Windsor?

Cai Wogan Jones
Cai Wogan Jones
3 months ago

Born, raised and educated in London / Berkshire, of impeccably English parents. Let him support his team!

But he is not Welsh and has no claim to any kind of legitimate succession to our princes. Prince of Wales? Not! Never!

Last edited 3 months ago by Cai Wogan Jones

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