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Independence ‘on the table’ after interim Constitutional Commission findings says YesCymru

07 Dec 2022 8 minute read
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Independence is “on the table” after the interim findings of a Constitutional Commission set up by the Welsh Government, YesCymru have said.

The Independent Commission on the Constitutional Future of Wales has said it is examining three “viable” options for Wales’ future – including independence.

YesCymru pointed to the fact that 55% of all the participants in the consultation phase expressed support for independence for Wales.

“YesCymru agrees with the Commission findings that the supremacy of the Westminster Parliament means that any change to the current arrangements must be initiated by the UK Government,” YesCymru Chair Elfed Williams said.

“But the UK Government can also ignore any call for further reform made by the people of Wales. We have always said that this is not a partnership of nations but a domination of rule by Westminster.”

Gwern Gwynfil, CEO of YesCymru, said that an independent Wales was now much more than an “idealistic vision” for a better future for those who live here.

“It’s the only guaranteed option that safeguards our people from the pitfalls and hazards that come with Westminster governance,” he said.

“Independence is ultimately the only way to ensure the brightest possible future for those who care to call Wales their home.

“This report is a step in the right direction, taking us a little closer to our goal of securing the constitutional change we require to reach our goal of independence, it is welcomed wholeheartedly”.

‘No stability’

The Independent Commission on the Constitutional Future of Wales, Co-chaired by Professor Laura McAllister and Dr Rowan Williams, had gathered evidence on how Wales was currently governed from over 2,000 Welsh citizens, expert groups and community-led organisations.

The Commission’s intermid report highlighted that the United Kingdom is virtually unique in not having a written constitution. The Commission details that an “unwritten constitution” takes for granted the “sovereignty” of Westminster, which adds significant constraints to people of Wales and their elected representatives to determine how they should be governed.

Professor Laura McAllister, co-chair of the Commission, said: “The Union has been allowed to function without fixed checks and balances on power, and this has never been more evident than in the last three years with a UK Government that has a large majority and has been less willing to share power with other institutions.

“Our exploratory work over the last year has given us a sharp reminder that the lack of written constitution does not guarantee stability for Wales nor good governance.

“More than ever, it is clear that the challenges with the way Wales is governed can only be addressed by acknowledging the inter-dependence with wider constitutional issues in the UK. We’re very realistic that two of three constitutional routes we’ve outlined in this report are only achievable with a written constitution.”

Rowan Williams and Laura McAllister

‘Structural problem’

In its report, the Commission argues that the ‘status quo’ is not a viable option for providing stability and prosperity for Wales.

The report goes on to conclude that there are three feasible and alternative constitutional routes for how Wales could be run that could improve the lives of the citizens of Wales. These are:

  1. Strengthen and secure the current devolution settlement.
  2. A federal approach with a new UK constitution which creates equality between England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
  3. Independence, where Wales would become a sovereign country, eligible to apply for full membership of international organisations, such as the UN?

The Commission believes that the current devolution process which began after the 1997 referendum has been a major step forward for Welsh democracy. But its interim report identifies significant pressure on the current ‘settlement’, citing an ‘imbalance of power’ for Welsh people in the ability to influence things that affect them.

The report lays out ten significant pressure points for devolution. The ‘vulnerability’ of the devolution settlement and the supremacy of the Westminster parliament in making decisions about the future of Welsh democracy are stated as critical issues. The persistent weakness of the Welsh economy is also listed as a fundamental issue which, relative to the UK, continues to underperform.

Co-chair of the Commission, Rt. Revd. and Rt. Hon. Dr Rowan Williams said: “Despite investment, the Welsh economy still lags, which indicates there is a structural problem that needs to be addressed.

“It tells us that the Welsh economy isn’t doing well under the status quo. But what, if any, constitutional options would enable Wales to become more prosperous and improve the lives of people in Wales? This is something we have to continue to explore.”


Through the Commission’s online consultation, Dweud eich Dweud: Have your Say, over 2000 responses were gathered that gave early insight into citizens’ perspectives on how Wales is currently run.

The most popular constitutional preference was independence, favoured by 55% (1096) of the 2000+ respondents to the online consultation.

While this is significant, the Commission has acknowledged that this may be due to pro-independence groups encouraging their supporters to respond.

Rowan Williams continued: “We knew the online consultation was likely to generate responses from people who have already formed their opinion, and as such, we received strong views from either end of the political spectrum.

“In that context it’s not surprising that independence came through strongly. So as a Commission, we can use this to form a picture of who hasn’t engaged with our work yet.

“Whatever your thoughts on the conclusions of the interim report, there is still time to have your say and shape how Wales could be governed in the future.”

Co-chaired by Professor Laura McAllister and Dr Rowan Williams, the group of 11 Commission members covers a spectrum of backgrounds, expertise and political views.

The group was brought together by the Welsh Government in October 2021 but works independently from it.

Former Prime Minister Gordon Brown during a Labour Party press conference. Picture by PA Wire / Danny Lawson.


The interim report comes just as day after the Labour party published its own report on the UK’s constitutional future.

That report made little mention of specific proposals for Wales but referred to the upcoming report commissioned by the Welsh government.

“In Wales, our proposals strengthen self-government for a new era, but we are mindful that the Welsh Government has set up an independent Commission to make recommendations on constitutional issues,” it said.

“We know that we can rely on the Welsh Labour Government to publish its Plan for Wales that employs to the full the powers of the Senedd and, at the same time, maximises the benefits from co-operation across the United Kingdom.”

The UK Labour report, led by Gordon Brown, did however suggest some changes to Wales’ devolution settlement including:

  • Welsh devolution should be constitutionally protected from meddling by the UK Government by giving a new Senate of the Nations and Regions – replacing the House of Lords – a role in protecting it.
  • New powers should be made available to the Senedd and Welsh Governments, including embarking upon new powers over youth justice and the probation service.
  • The Welsh Senedd’s members should, if desired, enjoy the same privileges and protections as Members of Parliament in relation to statements made in their proceedings.
  • Enhanced access to economic resources for Wales: the British Regional Investment Bank should maximise support for innovation and investment in Wales, in conjunction with the Welsh Development Bank and the European Investment Bank.

Mark Drakeford welcomed the UK Labour report, saying that it put forward “important ideas”.

“The union of the United Kingdom is under greater threat now than at any other time in its long history as a result of the actions – and neglect – of successive UK Conservative Governments,” he said.

“I want to thank Gordon Brown for all the work he has put into this timely, comprehensive report and set of recommendations for the future of the UK. I am very grateful for the engagement we have had during the development of this report.

“Labour is the party of devolution and this report shows that only Labour is thinking urgently about the future of the United Kingdom. This report puts forward important ideas about how power can be devolved and shared throughout the country to create a stronger union and a stronger United Kingdom.

“I look forward to seeing these recommendations realised as soon as we have a Labour UK Government.”

Jo Stevens, Shadow Secretary of State for Wales meanwhile promised a widespread consultation.

“I’d like to thank First Minister Mark Drakeford, former First Minister Carwyn Jones and Baron Murphy of Torfaen for their work on Gordon Brown’s Commission that has resulted in the report and recommendations published today,” she said.

“As Keir Starmer has said, we will now consult widely on the recommendations as they form part of our wider plan to build an economy in which growth is created by and for everyone everywhere.”

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DAI Ponty
DAI Ponty
1 year ago

I always say why does England or Westminster if you want give us INDEPENDENCE when they are always saying engerland keeps Wales Scotland and Northern Ireland and my reply is always IF ENGLAND KEPT THOSE 3 COUNTRIES THEY WOULD HAVE GIVEN US INDEPENDENCE without a vote from those 3 countries and infact i really believe we all 3 countries keep england the royals the nuclear weapons their pet projects like the white elephant called H S 2 the tens of billions spent in london they do not spend money or very little any where else in england only in london… Read more »

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
1 year ago

In the past we’ve had numerous commissions, Silk & Richard’s comes to mind, arguing for further devolution whose findings were cynically kicked into the long grass by both Unionist Labour & Conservatives. And it took Plaid Cymru in coalition to force Welsh Labour’s arm to hold referendum to enable Wales to become a legislature again after a 600 year absence. We cannot allow again those in power to kick the can down the road denying only Wales the right to self-government.

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