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MPs reject bid to give Scottish Parliament power to hold votes on independence

16 Jan 2024 3 minute read
Neale Hanvey who is the Alba Party MP for Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath. Photo David Woolfall/UK Parliament

A proposed law seeking to give the Scottish Parliament the power to hold independence referendums has been rejected by MPs.

The Alba Party’s Neale Hanvey (Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath) was seeking to introduce the Scotland (Self-Determination) Bill to the House of Commons for further consideration.

His proposal sought to amend the Scotland Act 1998 to transfer the power to legislate for a Scottish independence referendum from Westminster to Holyrood.

It added such a power could only be used where the Scottish public has demonstrated its support for holding a referendum and there must be at least seven years between such votes.

But MPs voted 228 to 48, majority 180, against Mr Hanvey’s motion, meaning his proposal cannot be considered further in the House of Commons.

‘Democratic wishes’ 

Outlining his case, Mr Hanvey told the Commons: “In recent years, the UK state has steadfastly refused to acknowledge or honour the principle or democratic wishes of the Scottish electorate.”

He added: “The effect of this Bill should be uncontroversial for every member, it merely establishes in law an equivalent mechanism to the principle already conceded by the UK Government in relation to a border poll in Northern Ireland.

“Firstly, that the power to legislate for a referendum requires a democratic mandate from the Scottish public to do so.

“Since 2014, that criteria has been met in successive general elections to the Scottish Parliament, most recently in 2021 where a majority of MSPs were elected and a majority of votes were cast in favour of a manifesto commitment to deliver an independence referendum.

“Secondly, this Bill states that no such referendum may be held any sooner than every seven years after any previous such referendum.

“Should members of this chamber deny Scotland her legitimate claim on self-determination, then it will put beyond doubt that the voice of the people of Scotland is not welcome in this place and a new approach must be considered.

“This Bill offers both remedy and route. It places the power to decide firmly where it belongs – in the hands of the people of Scotland – and it does so by transferring the power to hold a referendum on independence to the Scottish Parliament.”

Supreme Court

Liberal Democrat MP Christine Jardine (Edinburgh West) argued against the motion, saying: “My overwhelming emotion, my overwhelming sentiment on hearing of this debate was, ‘Oh, not again’.

“Surely this has been settled not just by the Supreme Court ruling but the repeated occasions on which the people of Scotland, myself included, other MPs here, the electorates of several constituencies and the majority of people at the last general election and in the (2014) referendum, made it clear that no, we cannot be held in the Union against our will – but our will is to stay.

“So here we are on the anniversary of the parliamentary approval of the Act of Union in 1707 going over the same nationalist argument again and again.

“The argument, which has been rejected in a referendum and rejected at the general election.”

The division list showed 38 SNP MPs and Conservative Philip Hollobone (Kettering) were among the MPs to support Mr Hanvey’s motion.

But 57 Tory MPs, 147 Labour and 13 Lib Dems were among those to oppose it.


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Catherine
Catherine
1 month ago

The amount of Saesneg Labour who voted against this bill should be very sobering news for anyone in Cymru who believes that Kier Starmer and friends will be friendly towards more devolution for Cymru or the other nations.

Leigh Richards
Leigh Richards
1 month ago

No surprise to see Labour MPs making up the large bulk of those who voted it down (indeed not a single Labour MP voted in favour). Should change their name to the ‘Labour & Unionist Party’.

Gwyn Hopkins
Gwyn Hopkins
1 month ago

This vote shows that the vast majority of MPs believe in Union by Compulsion for the people of Scotland. The MPs act exactly as colonists by refusing to accept that Scotland’s people certainly have a moral right to decide their own future. The same is true for Wales. The late Magnus Magnusson’s volume “Scotland – the History of a Nation” reveals that 99% of Scotland’s people opposed its Union with England (1707) but were not consulted about it. They had no choice – it was forced on them with the threat of violence and calamity by the English parliament. Nothing has changed!    
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
                                                                                                                             

Frank
Frank
1 month ago

Politicians hundreds of miles away in London voting on Scottish affairs again.

Last edited 1 month ago by Frank

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