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MS hits out at Welsh Secretary over NHS dentistry comments

24 Sep 2024 3 minute read
Welsh Secretary Jo Stevens speaks during the Labour Party Conference at the ACC Liverpool. Photo Peter Byrne/PA Wire

Emily Price

An MS who has been “inundated” by constituents trying to access NHS dental care has hit out at the Welsh Secretary for claiming Wales is an example of how dental services should be run.

Yesterday Jo Stevens announced that the UK and Welsh governments will collaborate on health care for the first time to help drive down waiting lists on both sides of the border and improve patient care.

In her speech to the Labour Party conference on Monday (September 23), she said: “The UK government will take inspiration from NHS Wales on dentistry, where reforms have unlocked almost 400,000 more appointments in the last two years.

“And the Welsh Government will benefit from best practice shared by NHS England as my colleague Wes Streeting oversees the roll out of new, more productive ways of working across England to deliver 40,000 extra appointments a week.

“This the beginning of a new way of working together that will help improve outcomes in both nations and deliver our missions.”

But Plaid Cymru’s Siân Gwenllian hit out at the Welsh Secretary branding her comments “disingenuous”.

Reality

The MS for Arfon said the UK Government was ignoring a “multitude of failures” in Wales’ dentistry provision with the day-to-day reality of patients seeking NHS dental care “very different”.

Ms Gwenllian said: “Since being elected I have been inundated with constituents who are being let down by the Welsh Labour Government, and who are failing to access dental care on the NHS. Just last week, Kelly O’Donnell from Bethel spoke about how her family have been unable to see an NHS dentist for more than four years.

Last week the Plaid MS published a report that called for a School of Dentistry based in her Bangor constituency to get to grips with NHS dentist shortages.

She said: “The report showed that only 36.6% of the population in the Betsi Cadwaladr Health Board Area had received NHS dental treatment in the past two years. Less than half of the child population had been seen to by an NHS dentist.

“Put simply, the Welsh Secretary’s comments were disingenuous and ignored a multitude of failures in Wales’ dentistry provision. And that’s without getting in to a debate about the serious overstepping of a devolved issue in Wales.

“I hope the Secretary of State for Wales will join me in calling for her Labour colleagues in Cardiff to set up a School training dentists at Bangor University as soon as possible.”

Blow

Plaid Cymru’s leader Rhun ap Iorwerth also criticised the Welsh Secretary’s remarks following the termination of a further NHS dental contract on Ynys Môn.

He said: “This is another blow for an island that has seen a sharp decline in the availability and accessibility of NHS dental services in recent years.

“The blame lies squarely at the door of the Labour Welsh Government, who failed over their 25 years in power to get to grips with the issues facing the dental sector in Wales. Instead, they’ve allowed services to diminish over time, meaning more patients are suffering.

“Yesterday, the Welsh Secretary of State said that the UK government will use Wales as a blueprint when it comes to dental services. But Jo Stevens need only see the people waiting in vain for NHS dental care to see the depths of the problems in dentistry in Wales.”


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Frank
Frank
20 hours ago

Don’t people who are paying privately for dental work realise they are paying twice for their treatment? They pay through their weekly national insurance contributions and then again for the dental plan. I think that anyone who cannot get treatment on the NHS should send their private bill to the government. The government are breaking their contract with the public for not providing enough dentists. The same applies to people who pay privately for operations (hips, knees, cataracts etc.) because they are in so much pain that they are forced to seek private treatment because of long waiting lists. The… Read more »

Chris
Chris
19 hours ago
Reply to  Frank

Yes, of course we realise that, but in some parts of Wales it’s a choice of pay privately or have no dental coverage at all.

I actually have tried sending the bill for dentistry to my local health board, their response was I should have registered with a NHS dentist, my challenge “oh yes, which one?” went unanswered.

Adrian
Adrian
18 hours ago
Reply to  Frank

Yes Frank…we’re not stupid!
The reality is though that we, and our children, are suffering because of decades of mismanagement by the Welsh Labour government. It sticks in my craw that I’m paying these muppets for a service that no longer exists, but what option do I have? Let the kids’ teeth rot?

Frank
Frank
17 hours ago
Reply to  Adrian

Sorry, but do I detect a bad attitude towards my comment? I am on your side. I know the situation quite well and that situation is wrong!! I merely pointed out that patients who have no choice but to go private are paying twice which in my book is wrong and technically theft from the government. The sad thing is we don’t do anything about it and just let them rob us. The same situation in other European countries would end up in strong protests.

jack
jack
17 hours ago
Reply to  Frank

yes but i would rather pay twice than have my teeth fall out

Frank
Frank
15 hours ago
Reply to  jack

I give up!!!! Just cannot please some!! No fighting spirit at all. No one is asking you to let your teeth fall out. For goodness sake man can’t you see I am on your side here? Just forget it, I’ve moved on now.

hdavies15
hdavies15
20 hours ago

Good job Sian has found her voice. She and other Plaid M.S’s have spent far too long giving comfort to the underperforming Bay Labour regime. Now this panto dame from Labour’s Wastemonster regime gives yet more false testimony and at last something is triggered. Maybe this will be the turning point where Plaid’s M.S’s go all out to communicate how our Labour regime has presided over a declining performance for years leading to the mess of today. The Barreness could care less cos she probably has her teeth sharpened privately.

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
19 hours ago
Reply to  hdavies15

It’s finger pointing time in Liverpool…

hdavies15
hdavies15
17 hours ago
Reply to  Mab Meirion

Time to stop finger pointing for Labour. They are now party in charge in Wastemonster and the Bay. No point sticking to blaming those “wicked tories”. They will have to re-write or make the rules, stop the wide boys, spivs, shysters and their bankster mates from sucking money out of the economy, ripping everybody off and ducking tax like a bunch of champion flyweights. I think they lack the cojones to tackle the mountain of fiddling at the top of the pile.

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
19 hours ago

Well done to Plaid Cymru’s Siân Gwenllian for the reality check. WS Jo Stevens is a deluded champagne socialist with her head in the sand. Welsh Labour has had ample time, 25 years in fact, to sort out dentistry in Wales but still we have those communities without an NHS dentist. We’ve got to oust this Welsh Labour shambles from the Senedd and end UK/English Labour’s direct rule through the backdoor asap.

Jack
Jack
15 hours ago
Reply to  Y Cymro

This shortage of dentists is UK wide – little to do with the Welsh government really.

Howie
Howie
18 hours ago

She was BBC politics today, strangely quiet when Andy Burnham was on about extending HS2 to North. I thought she said it was all spent.

Ianto
Ianto
16 hours ago

NHS dentistry?? In Wales?? Oh stop it, my sides are splitting. Poor little England if that’s what they’re aspiring to.

Crwtyddol
Crwtyddol
14 hours ago

As a retired dentist, I can tell you it started to fall apart in 2006, with the new contract. They’ve still stuck to it, plus failures in recruitment and retention have led to a disgrace. I see more mediaevally broken dentitions on a daily basis than I could ever believe. We’ve regressed to the early 1800s in our level of care.

Amir
Amir
1 hour ago

The 40,000 extra appointments are mainly emergency appointments. Most of them will result in the loss a tooth. Well done.

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