Plaid Cymru leader confronted by gender critical feminists over party’s stance on women’s rights

Martin Shipton
Gender critical feminists confronted Plaid Cymru leader Rhun ap Iorwerth at an open meeting over his party’s stance on women-only spaces.
Campaigners from north east Wales gathered at Mr ap Iorwerth’s meeting in Wrexham to see if he would signal a change in Plaid’s approach to the issue since the Supreme Court ruling in April that references to “sex” in the Equality Act 2010 refer to biological sex.
The Welsh Government has committed to issuing new guidance on the implications of the judgment.
Gender critical feminists oppose Plaid’s current policy, which supports the right of anyone to lawfully self-identify in the gender of their choice. They argue that the policy deprives women of their rights.
Those who attended Mr ap Iorwerth’s meeting argued that, as a result of the Supreme Court ruling, it is now clear that where a single sex service for women has been provided it must exclude all men, regardless of how they identify themselves.
Senedd election
Such campaigners in Wales now plan to ask all the parties standing in next May’s Senedd election to commit to supporting the judgment, “ensuring their policies are compliant with the law, and respecting women’s rights to privacy, dignity and safety.”
Sue, a member of the campaign group, said: “We call on Plaid to publicly state they will work within the law and make sure the right of women and girls to single sex spaces is enforced”, adding: “Plaid puts the rights of a trans minority above the rights and safety of 51% of the population”.
Sue claimed the evidence presented by the women painted a worrying picture about the party’s attitudes to women and their rights. Last year, women’s rights charity FiLiA had booked a stand at Plaid Cymru’s conference, hoping to use the opportunity to talk to delegates and Plaid politicians about a range of grassroots campaigns they support.
With less than 48 hours to go, the charity was told that they would not be welcome, and their booking was revoked. Plaid said: “Some of FiLiA’s positions are potentially contrary to the party’s values – for instance on trans rights.”
The party later admitted that it had acted unlawfully in excluding FiLiA from the conference.
Discrimination
Asked about this at the Wrexham event, Mr ap Iorwerth denied breaching the Equality Act in excluding the charity from the conference, despite reports at the time showing that the party admitted discrimination against the charity.
The women distributed leaflets at the Wrexham event outlining their key questions to Plaid’s leader.
They pointed out that the party’s own Prosiect Pawb report, commissioned internally after troubling reports which made media headlines under previous leader Adam Price, found a “culture of … misogyny”.
The women claimed that anecdotal reports to them from Plaid members indicated that women trying to discuss women’s rights to safety, privacy and dignity in single sex spaces were still subject to bullying, harassment and silencing. They asserted that the current leader’s message of tolerance seemed only to have been extended to certain groups, including those who argue publicly against women’s rights.
The campaigners said they were aware of a significant number of women who had felt unable to continue their membership due to this.
Replying to one of the campaigners in the meeting, Mr ap Iorweth said that the party will comply with the Supreme Court ruling on the Equality Act but that it was important to ensure all rights are balanced. The group pointed to the lack of compliance and balance in Plaid’s current policy as published on the party website which pledges to “Uphold trans people’s right to continue to access services and facilities in accordance with their gender identity”.
A member of Women’s Rights Network, Sarah from Wrexham said “I don’t think people are aware of what this really means. It sounds nice to talk about being kind and fair and including everyone according to what they want, but Plaid’s policy means women and girls have to accept men in their changing rooms, public toilets and sports. Most women don’t want to be vulnerable or in a state of undress with a man they don’t know. Most parents don’t want their young daughters to be exposed to adult male strangers in a changing room.
“The reality is that Plaid’s policies aren’t kind or fair to women and girls – we have a right to privacy, dignity and safety.”
Trust
Merched Cymru, a grassroots organisation of women in Wales working to protect and strengthen the rights of women and girls said “The Party of Wales has ambitions to dethrone Welsh Labour in 2026, but they need to address the policies advertised on their website if they want to regain the trust of women voters.”
Cathy Larkman, a director of Women’s Rights Network and campaign lead for the Network in Wales, said: “I’m very concerned about Plaid’s attitude and policies. I applaud this group, many of them our members, for trying to clarify what these are and what this means for women’s rights.
“Rhun ap Iorwerth doesn’t seem to understand that the party can’t comply with the Equality Act if he continues to endorse a policy that some men can choose to use women’s spaces and services – either all men are excluded from women’s spaces or none are and there are situations when women and girls need single sex services and spaces.
“I’m even more concerned that others in the party seem not to accept the Supreme Court ruling at all and do not accept that women and girls need, and are legally entitled to, single sex spaces.”
Wales Women’s Rights Network said they had been disappointed by Mr ap Iorwerth’s unwillingness to engage meaningfully with them in the past. Ms Larkman said: “Wales WRN have written again to Rhun this week to request a meeting to discuss the issues raised by these women campaigners ahead of the development of Plaid Cymru’s manifesto for the 2026 Senedd elections. We’ve noted what he had to say at this meeting but the women of Wales need and deserve more than this.
“And this doesn’t just apply to Plaid – we’re putting all the parties on notice – respect our sex if you want our X!”
A Plaid Cymru spokesperson responded: “Plaid Cymru believes that every person should have the inalienable right to live free from prejudice, discrimination and persecution.
“Tolerance, respect, and dignity are rooted in Plaid Cymru’s values, and our commitment to protecting the rights of all will remain at the heart of everything we stand for.”
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Plaid need to read the room. Women’s rights cannot take a back seat to trans demands. Very few people support trans identified men using female only spaces, and it seems daft to damage public trust to encourage it.
More hysteria. Nobody is asking to put “the rights of a trans minority above the rights and safety of 51% of the population”. But some of us are rightly calling out this kind of unpleasant, selfish attitude that thinks it’s acceptable to erase the rights of vulnerable trans people in the misguided belief this is an easy and painless way to make women safer. A trans person going about their daily life, using facilities to suit their adopted gender presents no threat to anybody. The threat to women is overwhelmingly from non-trans, heterosexual men. Persecuting the former does not solve… Read more »
Quite right, Susan. A handful of bigoted old women think they speak for all of us. Stick to your guns. Rhun. People should be tolerant of each other.
If it is a handful it will not matter but if it is a lot you will feel their wrath in first past the post.
Look at the photo above. It hardly compares to the 100,000s marching for Palestine.
Your sexism and agism is disgusting. Why do you think an older woman’s opinion is less worthy than anyone else’s?
Also, I’m 32 and I agree with them. Am I to have my views dismissed because I’m not within your arbitrarily defined age bracket for acceptable opinions?
As a hetero-sexual man I’ve never walked into a women’s toilets or changing room, never even had the urge to do so. Meanwhile a homosexual man walked into a women’s changing room in a Scottish hospital, demanding to get changed alongside a rightly shocked woman. He reported the shocked woman, who faced disciplinary action and was suspended from her job as a nurse. So to factually disprove your comment, the ‘threat’ to her came from a homo-sexual man, not a hetero-sexual man. Now the Supreme Court has decided on the matter: Men use men’s toilets and changing rooms, women use… Read more »
There is a difference between trans women and homosexual men. Trans women have a deep rooted belief that they were born in the wrong body and therefore have a desperate desire to get rid of their male genitalia. Homosexual men have no wish to change sex or lose their genitalia.
You’re blinded by your wish to be kind. 95% of men who identify themselves as women do not have, and do not wish to have, any ‘bottom surgery’.
As things stand, the recent court ruling seems to suggest that trans women who have undertaken gender reassignment should be treated the same way as a male who claims to be trans but would run a mile if someone arranged gender reassignment surgery for them. That is absolutely ridiculous!
Not always. They don’t all chop it off
Actually, the man you speak of is a married heterosexual.
The majority of men who claim an ‘inner womanhood’ are heterosexual. That means that, like any other man, their motives for wanting to be in spaces where we may be undressed are highly suspect.
Your post skims over innate problems with providing a safe space for human females if some human males are allowed to enter based on an unfalsifiable “identity”. It also ignores the basic fact that men are far larger and stronger than women, and the proportion who have an interest in gaining access to enclosed spaces where women may be partially or wholly undressed are the ones who have proven malevolent intentions. Not all men are dangerous but enough for protections to be necessary. Good men stay out so bad men stand out. That includes transwomen. Transwomen like Kathleen Riot and… Read more »
Trotting out the myth that women can’t tell a gender non-conforming woman from a man.
It just shows that the notion of trans is based on regressive stereotypes of what it means to be a man or a woman.
Its not abour denying anybody rights but stopping trans extremists from setting an unlawful agenda which it has been doing.
Gotcha Plaid Cymru. You’ve been ignoring members and supporters who disagree with you on this matter for a long time. It doesn’t make us women feel any better that you’re “going to comply with the Equality Act ” only because you HAVE to. It’s the law and yet you’re ignoring Supreme Court Ruling, Cass Report and many, many court judgements. There’s nowhere you can hide your sexism and misogyny any more. Women of Cymru – rise up, our time has come.
Where does misogyny come in? We have here two vulnerable and irreconcilable communities where a shared discussion might help take the heat out of the situation, and an attempt to cater for two legal antidiscriminatory standpoints. St Asaph Cathedral has had a go: a unisex toilet room with lockable cubicles. Perhaps the way forward is to ban urinals, and legalise compassion.
The current Fife NHS nurse tribunal seems to be pointing in only one direction, and that’s apart from the lunacy of senior medical consultants who think sex is “assigned” at birth and are somewhat unsure of their own sex (female). because they haven’t had their “chromosomes” checked recently.
If Wales/Plaid don’t want to incur the cost and public ridicule etc, they need to realise that this particular tide has gone out and they are now naked on the beach. Not pretty.
Good on these ladies for highlighting this. I don’t think Plaid realise how offensive their stance on this has been to women.
I can think of numerous times when using the gents that a woman has come in to use the cubicles because of the massive queue for the ladies. Everyone copes with the unexpected situation and it passes uneventfully after.
Personally at my age of life I am more concerned by the reducing provision of toilets, not who is using them, but maybe the answer for those that are, is individual cubicles with wash basins as provided by the new Coleg Cambria building in Wrexham.
The safest place for women to go to the toilet is the ladies toilets. Women who go into the men’s because of the long queues at the ladies are not a physical threat to men – it might make them feel uncomfortable but that’s all. And the long queues are because architects etc. don’t seem to realise that women take longer in the toilets; Wonder why that is? Oh most of them are men. Let’s have women’s, men’s and gender neutral toilets like St Fagan has had for years. But most transwomen want to go to the ladies because they… Read more »