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Police accused of bias after ‘anti-trans’ banners are seized

29 Aug 2023 5 minute read
One of the banners on display last Friday

Martin Shipton

Feminist campaigners have accused Dyfed-Powys Police of political bias after protest banners they draped from road bridges were seized and removed.

The grassroots group Outspoken Women put up banners with messages that included “Transwomen Are Men” over bridges in south and west Wales.

Dyfed-Powys Police said they were responding to a report of a “hate crime”.

The protest was timed to coincide with the Bank Holiday for maximum visibility. Temporary banners were hung on bridges and roadside barriers across south and west Wales, bearing slogans challenging gender ideology and its impact on women and children.

The banners were tied on securely using cable ties and eyelets in the fabric. The protesters said they remained in proximity to the banners to make sure they did not cause any problem to passing traffic and that they planned to safely remove them after a short period of time.

However, at one site a lone female protester was approached by a police officer from Dyfed Powys Police in a car displaying emergency blue lights. He was alone when he approached, his number was not visible, and he did not attempt to engage with her but instead tore her banner from the bridge.

The woman, a lesbian in her early 60s, claims she had already offered to remove it herself, but he said he would be taking it. After ripping the banner from its fixings, he bundled it up into the back of his car, where she saw he had banners confiscated from other bridges.

When she asked him on what grounds he was removing the banners, he said it was because they were potentially offensive. He then drove away with blue lights flashing.

The group said banners, placards and slogans were commonplace in the act of protest, and the right to peaceful protest was permitted under the law.

Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which applies in the UK, says individuals have “freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers”.

Last year, police forces were told that people contributing to political and social debate must not be “stigmatised simply because someone is offended”.

Thought police

In May 2022, Andy Cooke, chief inspector of constabulary for England, Wales and Northern Ireland, told police forces they are not the “thought police”. He told The Times that chief constables needed to

“avoid politics with the small p”, follow the law and remember that “different thoughts” were not an offence.

A spokeswoman for Outspoken Women said: “There is no provision under the law to protect people from being offended, nor should there be. Yet the police are applying this imaginary provision – and against only one side in this debate.

“Time and again, women who object to the ramifications of gender ideology, the presence of men in women’s spaces and sports, and the medicalisation of children who are experiencing gender incongruence meet to discuss their concerns, hold events to hear speakers and share experiences.

“Almost without exception we are met with forceful resistance by gender ideology supporters, often including loud aggression and violent threats – for instance placards calling for our decapitation or our rape. Yet police officers at those events do not act to protect us against such intimidation – let alone against us being merely offended.

“This banner protest was another silent protest by Outspoken Women. We are simply stating facts, finding a way to reach as many people as possible without direct interference. But again, our voices are being silenced, this time by the very people who should protect us.

“If this was a member of ‘the other side’ then he simply would not have behaved in that way. The police show visible and vocal support for the LGBT community, so they say, but this protester, a lesbian, did not get any of that support. She found herself at the end of biased and misogynistic policing, and it is just not good enough.”

‘Astonishing’

Retired police superintendent Cathy Larkman, who heads Women’s Rights Network Wales, said: “I’ve viewed the video and the actions of the officer, and the explanation provided for the removal of the signs is simply astonishing. There is no mention of any local byelaws or highway issues, nor of any offences alleged to have been committed.

“Instead, the reason provided is that the signs ‘might’ cause offence. The police tearing signs and seizing them because someone may or may not be offended should concern us all.

“Even if some unknown person decided that they disagree with the statements on the signs, it is not the role of officers to control what opinions women may or may express. This is a chilling suppression of freedom of expression.

“Many women feel strongly about the preoccupation of the Welsh Government with gender ideology and their determination to erase the rights of women, including our rights to single sex spaces in changing rooms, toilets, domestic violence services and rape crisis centres.

“Under Welsh Government proposals to introduce gender self-ID in law, women would lose any assurance of these areas and services being single sex, including any right to same sex intimate care.

“It is important that this is brought to the attention of the Welsh public and the women placing these banners up on bridges were clearly trying to do that. It is not the role of the police to police opinion or offence.”

A spokesman for Dyfed-Powys Police said: “At around 2.30pm on Friday we received a report of a hate crime in Carmarthen, with people on Towy Bridge with banners and chanting what were reported to be anti-trans slogans. Officers attended but no-one was present.

“However, they then discovered banners on the Johnstown and Bolahaul Road flyovers, which were removed as they matched the description from the earlier report. Enquiries are ongoing.”


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Asban
Asban
1 year ago

Whoever put those banners up, great job. Some people thankfully still believe in reality.

Eric Tangier
Eric Tangier
1 year ago

Police take down a banner for no reason then. What is going on in Wales? Women allowed to say anything. Stuff Drakeford and Labour. This is too much. Ive heard about boys in the girls toilets….this all needs to stop.

KPA
KPA
1 year ago

So Dyfed-Powys Police describe these banners as “a hate crime”? A hate crime means a crime exacerbated by a motive of hate, but it requires an actual underlying crime to have been committed. What, here is the crime? Peaceful protest is not a crime in Wales – yet, anyway! As the video shows, the police officer at the scene didn’t even pretend to believe a crime had been committed. His stated reason for removing the banners was merely that they “might” cause “offence”. Impartial? I think not! When will the police in Wales get back to fighting crime rather than… Read more »

Ellen
Ellen
1 year ago

Shocking – the police are meant to be apolitical and as the policeman said, whilst ripping the banner from the bridge, impartial. Interesting way of showing it. We live in a democracy but it would appear the Welsh Government and the police are puppets of Stonewall and Diversity and Inclusion trainers. Our rights as citizens are being eroded and general public are completely unaware. Thank you NC for printing this article.

saveenergy
saveenergy
1 year ago
Reply to  Ellen

“We live in a democracy”

Sadly we don’t …
& what freedoms we had are being eroded at increasing speed; we now live in a ‘Cancel Culture’ much like 1930s Germany.
If you want to know the future … read history.

Issy Jones
Issy Jones
1 year ago

I was there on Friday. No one chanted anything. We routinely responded to harassment and abuse from trans supporters with waves and smiles. Our banners were simple statements of fact: ‘Woman is not a Feeling’ and ‘Transwomen are Men’, and an opinion — ‘Stop Transing Kids.’ These are not hate crimes. Free speech is still allowed in Wales, despite all Stonewall’s attempts to shut it down and silence women. Whoever reported this as a hate crime was lying and we would have hoped that the police would have ascertained what was really going on before destroying our banners. As you… Read more »

KPA
KPA
1 year ago
Reply to  Issy Jones

So the police aren’t telling the truth about there being chanting! Not sure why I’m even shocked; it’s become so clear that Welsh police have no impartiality on this issue.

Chanting at traffic from high up on a bridge wouldn’t make sense anyway!

But I guess the police just believe anything trans privilege activists tell them; and treat women like criminals for standing up for their rights.

Ali Morris
Ali Morris
1 year ago

The reason women resorted to putting up the banners is because they are silenced by Welsh Government, police, universities and most of the Welsh media. Women are fed up with not being listened to. There’s only so many times you can write to your political representative and nothing is done. Well done for having the courage to cover the story.

Cedwyn Aled
Cedwyn Aled
1 year ago

How is free speech now a ‘’hate crime’ in Wales? Stonewall and their gender ideology allies have done a hell of a job in capturing bodies like the police, Urdd and our beloved Welsh govt to do their bidding. How can any rational person object to true statements like ‘trans women are men’? It’s just an extension of the old Stonewall mantra ‘No Debate’, shut down free speech with accusations of ‘hate crime’. Shame on the police for enabling this little Orwellian gambit and deny our freedom to have a public debate on contentious political matters.

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
1 year ago

Meanwhile the Ladies of Greenham Common are put on standby, so sort yourselves out there is work to do…

RAF Lakenheath to nuclear war footing !

Is this Fat Shanks or Rishi Ji’s doing ? With the worst government on record, a hot war in progress and the Earth more and more resembling a death star, bipeds are becoming an increasingly endangered species…

A Woman
A Woman
1 year ago

What’s the problem with the banners? “Transwomen” ARE men. The word is misleading and most people assume these are women who identify as the other sex. No, these are men.
Children should not be lied to, one can no more change sex than change species. It is grotesque. Imagine getting your 16 year old son castrated! Well that’s what Susie Green formerly of “Mermaids” – the “charity” pushing this nonsense did. This is the medical scandal of the 21st century. Just look up “Detransitioners”.

Julia Innis
Julia Innis
1 year ago

So tell me, Mr P – what first attracted you to the movement which gave you free reign to dismiss women and call us bigots?

I doubt you understand anything at all about feminism, but you seem to know plenty about bigotry.

Belools
Belools
1 year ago

‘Chanting’?! How to call women ‘witches’ without saying ‘witches’! That is a LIE and South Wales police know it’s a lie. So they’re not only partisan but barefaced liars to boot.

Adrian Meagher
Adrian Meagher
1 year ago

How come none of the banners were in welsh?

Joe Todd
Joe Todd
1 year ago
Reply to  Adrian Meagher

Target marketing , welsh language recognises female and male .. job done .

Meinir Morris
Meinir Morris
1 year ago
Reply to  Joe Todd

Not quite. The fact gender pervades our language so deeply has not escaped the attention of these lunatics and reality wreckers. They describe Cymraeg as Transphobic and non inclusive and seek to compel siaradwyr to ditch centuries of established linguistic tradition and force us to use their words in everyday conversation by force of further punitive “hate crime”legislation if they can get way with it.

hdavies15
hdavies15
1 year ago
Reply to  Meinir Morris

Da iawn Meinir, well spotted. The demented lunatic fringe will not rest until it has suppressed anything that looks like non conforming to the “new truth”.

Joe Todd
Joe Todd
1 year ago

Every single member of Dyfed Powys police leadership team is a white bloke ..enuff said !

Rachel Wilson
Rachel Wilson
1 year ago

Extremely disturbing. What the hell is going on? Trans truthphobes and language thieves out to cancel/delete women and our “impartial” police are on their side.
The safety of women and girls is far more important than the feelings of a handful of mentally ill men.

Gareth Westacott
Gareth Westacott
1 year ago

A man cannot become a woman; a woman cannot become a man. They can only pretend they are.

Issy Jones
Issy Jones
1 year ago

It’s not just that they’re pretending, but they are suppressing anyone who tells the truth — and the police are acting as their enforcers. The Welsh government long ago outsourced anything to do with LGB and TQ+ to Stonewall. Stonewall has been given free access to the NHS and the police. It’s why there are men who claim to be women on women-only hospital wards. It’s why the police go around silencing anyone who is saying what we all would have said four or five years ago, before Stonewall persuaded our leaders to believe in gender woo.

manic recycling
manic recycling
1 year ago

Thank you Outspoken Women for putting these banners up. Nice to see the truth in big colourful letters. Does anyone trust the police any more? Violence against women and girls rising and it’s more important to take down a banner that “might” cause offence!!!!!! Diolch yn Fawr

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