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Report dubbing Welsh independence ‘viable’ is hugely concerning – Welsh Secretary

13 Mar 2024 3 minute read
David TC Davies speaking during Welsh Questions

A report commissioned by the Welsh Government which describes independence for Wales as “viable” has been branded “hugely concerning” by the Welsh Secretary.

David TC Davies told the Commons the Labour-run Government should focus on the “real priorities” of people in Wales.

Another Conservative MP, Marco Longhi, said any further exploration of independence “must be immediately ruled out” by the Welsh Government.

Elsewhere in the session, Mr Davies appeared to get his geography wrong when he described Wrexham as being in South Wales.

The Independent Commission On the Constitutional Future Of Wales report published in January concluded that independence would be “viable” but “the most uncertain option”, with enhancing devolution and a federal system also considered.

‘Constitutional navel-gazing’

Speaking during Wales questions, the Secretary of State said: “The, I’m afraid, not very independent commission was set up by Welsh Labour ministers, it reports to Welsh Labour ministers, but it was paid for by Welsh taxpayers.

“And the report they came out with was entirely in line with all the predictions which I made – more constitutional navel-gazing, more calls for more powers, and nothing at all to address the problems that have been inflicted on Wales by the Welsh Labour Government.

“I completely agree with (Mr Longhi) – it is hugely concerning that the Welsh Labour Government were even willing to consider independence for Wales with this commission.

“What they should be doing is to sort out the longest NHS waiting lists in the United Kingdom, they should do something about the fact we have the lowest educational standards in the United Kingdom.

“We have in Wales some of the highest business rates in the United Kingdom, and as a result of the last legislation we have some of the slowest speed limits in the United Kingdom.”

“It’s time the Welsh Labour Government addressed the real priorities of the people in Wales with the powers they already have.”

This came in response to Mr Longhi, who said: “It is deeply concerning that a so-called independent commission described Welsh independence as viable, despite the fact that the vast majority of people in Wales support remaining part of the union.

“Of course there is a difference between something that might be viable and something that is best.”

Dudley North

The MP for Dudley North said independence for Wales would be “highly damaging to the Welsh economy and public services”, adding: “Any further exploration of this idea must be immediately ruled out by the Labour Welsh Government.”

Mr Davies appeared to say Wrexham is in South Wales while responding to a question on ambulance wait times from Conservative MP Sarah Atherton.

In response to the MP for Wrexham, Mr Davies said: “(Sarah Atherton) is right to raise her concerns about the level of healthcare being provided to her constituents in South Wales.”


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Frank
Frank
28 days ago

Of course, as a government lap dog, he would say it was “concerning” because without Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland the country of England would disappear into insignificance on the world stage. That is all they are concerned about. Apart from that we mean nothing to them. If Cymru gains independence I only hope that we get our 25% share of all the goodies and treasures conveniently stored in England before they stash it all away for themselves.

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Dai Ponty
Dai Ponty
28 days ago

We do not care what you or your Tory cronies say Wales Outside the DISUNITED KINGDOM is our future not under the thumb of the English jackboot

Dai Rob
Dai Rob
28 days ago

“ The MP for Dudley North said independence for Wales would be….”

Nuff said.

Richard E
Richard E
28 days ago

Well at least DD will not need to worry about independence after the Autumn 🍂

Gareth
Gareth
28 days ago

The more media attention independence gets the better. The Tory party quoting a report where indy is described as “viable” only brings this home to more people, that there is an alternative to the mess that is the disunited kingdom. At last, T C Davies does something positive for CYMRU.

Riki
Riki
27 days ago

Don’t forget, Wales position in the Union is the most vital thing for England. As Wales being connected to England means they can Share in our Britishness and by means of entertainment can convince the rest of the world that they are solely the British people. Wales need to urgently gain independence and then in turn promote itself as sole inheritor of the Brythonic people and the history that is tied to them and us. Yma O Hyd!

Mr Williams
Mr Williams
27 days ago

We could easily say the same thing about Brexit, HS2 and many other of his party’s disasters!

Rob
Rob
27 days ago

Has the MP for Dudley North got better things to do than involving himself in matters that are of no importance to his constituents? Its up to the people of Wales to decide if we become independent or not.

David Pearn
David Pearn
27 days ago
Reply to  Rob

They need Welsh Water 💧

Steve Duggan
Steve Duggan
27 days ago

There was a time when the Westminster establishment would simply ignore and laugh at Welsh talk of independence. This report has obviously spooked them, through their smug complacency they’ve finally realised the Welsh independence movement is gaining traction in Wales. It’s no surprise to many, particularly within our younger generation, years of neglect eventually has it’s consequences. Davies is concerned – and so he should be.

James
James
27 days ago
Reply to  Steve Duggan

Years of neglect? Tell me, please 🙏, what on earth has Welsh Labour done for the Welsh people in the last 20 years?! Don’t blame UK government, Tory or Labour, for failings of our own doing.

Riki
Riki
27 days ago
Reply to  James

What can Welsh Labour exactly do? They have one arm tied behind their back as they are highly limited in some areas. Areas where even Northern Ireland have control over. I do believe Wales are the only ones who have a cap on how much it can borrow.

Barry Pandy
Barry Pandy
27 days ago
Reply to  Riki

More like two arms tied behind their back, and both ankles tied. Oh and their mouth gagged as well.

Steve Duggan
Steve Duggan
26 days ago
Reply to  James

Yes, I believe Welsh Labour have been in power too long and are a bit complacent now. However, there was never any possibility that they, or any other party in charge, was ever going to rectify hundreds of years of Westminster neglect in 25 years. Just not possible. The Welsh government is just not getting enough money and never will do as long as we stay in the Union.

karl
karl
24 days ago
Reply to  James

Ok Tory boy. UK holds the purse strings. UK being useless and spending money on pointless nukes and chums payouts, means the EU had to stand in and do alot for us.

David Pearn
David Pearn
27 days ago

We seriously need to get as far away from westmonster corruption ASAP

David
David
27 days ago
Reply to  David Pearn

There is also ‘funny dealings’ with Gething!

James
James
27 days ago
Reply to  David Pearn

There is as much corruption in the senedd as there is in Westminster. Its just that now we, the Welsh tax payer are paying for double idiots, in Westminster and in the Senedd.

Rob
Rob
27 days ago
Reply to  James

We won’t have to pay for double idiots with independence though would we. As David Pearn said – lets get away with Westminster.

Richard Davies
Richard Davies
27 days ago

The only thing I have to say to “turn-coat” Davies and Marco Longhi regarding their response to the commission’s report stating independence is “viable” wouldn’t get past the moderators!

The sooner we gain independence the better Cymru and Cymry will be. We will be able to address all the issues once we are no longer handcuffed to lloegr!

James
James
27 days ago
Reply to  Richard Davies

We can address issues now, like the NHS and education yet both are the worst performing in the UK? God help us if we went independent.

Riki
Riki
27 days ago
Reply to  James

There isn’t enough money to have top quality all around, they have to take from other areas if they want better quality in another. Why can’t some people from Wales understand how handicapped our Government are in regards to running our country. Take lending for example, Wales are the only ones who have a cap. That’s designed to keep us a few decades behind the rest of the Uk, just enough so we can ask for scraps.

Rob
Rob
27 days ago
Reply to  James

We can address these issues by voting out the Welsh Labour Government.

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
27 days ago

Why does Englishman David TC Davies care about this report into Welsh independence being is viable when all he does in office is attack, undermine and ridicule Wales? May I remind him that his ilk continually state how Wales is too small, too poor to be an independent country, then say how being part of a United Kingdom is so advantageous for Wales. Which is it? See, you cannot say we are incapable then argue we have it so good, so comfortable, when that very union has made our country so weak it couldn’t become an independent nation. Can’t have… Read more »

Phil Evans
Phil Evans
27 days ago

This man, who holds the office of Welsh Secretary (whatever that means by now) could actually do something of benefit to Wales and fight our corner in the Cabinet as regards investment. The Barnet formula / HS2 debacle would be a good start.

Frank
Frank
27 days ago
Reply to  Phil Evans

He’s under instructions from Sunak to not do anything of benefit to Wales.

Stub Mandrel
Stub Mandrel
26 days ago

The last time I looked Labour were against independence too. Just tory mischief as they get more desperate. Personally, I’d vote for independence tomorrow.

Rad
Rad
21 days ago

There is no one in the Welsh government who has the intelligence to run either a devolved gov or an independent one. Accept the fact that the Welsh economy is a basket case and would sink below the waves without uk money

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