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Rishi Sunak wants to add people who oppose UK’s ‘very existence’ to list of extremists

03 Aug 2022 3 minute read
Rishi Sunak picture by No 10 Downing Street (CC BY-NC-ND 2.0).

Rishi Sunak wants to add people who oppose the country’s “very existence” to a list of extremists where he to become Prime Minister, sources in his camp have briefed the press.

But a former senior police chief has warned that the proposals made by the former Chancellor as part of a bid to toughen the UK’s anti-terrorism Prevent strategy risked “straying into thought crimes”.

According to the Telegraph newspaper, “sources in the Sunak camp said he believed extremists did not just want to attack the UK’s values but also the country’s very existence”.

The plans included widening the “definition of extremism to include people who vilify the country”. Rishi Sunak pledged to focus on “rooting out those who are vocal in their hatred of our country”.

That would not include criticism of the Uk Government’s policies, his camp said, but may raise fears that such a change would have a chilling effect on the activities of those who sought to break up the UK.

Counter-terrorism chief Sir Peter Fahy, who was also chief constable of Greater Manchester police, told The Guardian that “vilification” could be far too broad a brush to define extremism.

“The widening of Prevent could damage its credibility and reputation. It makes it more about people’s thoughts and opinions.

“It is straying into thought crimes and political opinions.

“Political opposition is not where police should be, it is those who pose a serious threat and risk of violence, not those opposed to political systems.”

‘Positive’

Rishi Sunak’s new policy announcement comes as he and leadership rival Liz Truss are set to conduct the latest in a string of hustings in Cardiff today.

Sunak is attempting to claw his way back into the leadership race, after a YouGov poll suggested that 60% of party members said they will vote for the foreign secretary Liz Truss to succeed Boris Johnson as Prime Minister.

Just 26% said they would support Sunak, with the rest not having made up their minds.

53% of members also said that Conservative Ministers and MPs were wrong to force Boris Johnson to resign.

Supporters of Sunak however told the Times who conducted the poll that it was “notoriously difficult” to sample Tory members accurately.

A campaign source said: “We’re fighting for every vote, getting Rishi’s message out to the members, and the country and the reception he’s getting on the ground is really positive.”


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Neil Anderson
Neil Anderson
13 days ago

I support the peaceful dissolution of the United Kingdom into its constituent countries.

Please add me to the list of extremists that Rishi Sunak wants to create.

Dr John Ball
Dr John Ball
13 days ago
Reply to  Neil Anderson

And me!

Aled Rees
Aled Rees
13 days ago
Reply to  Dr John Ball

and me

Mick Tems
Mick Tems
13 days ago
Reply to  Aled Rees

…and me!

Fi yn unig
Fi yn unig
13 days ago
Reply to  Dr John Ball

Me too. Ooh look it’s a new ‘me too’ movement to be vilified just like the other one. They don’t like people who stand up for themselves.

Dirk Shorn David
Dirk Shorn David
13 days ago
Reply to  Dr John Ball

I think if you read the article, you’d find that a handful of bigoted white pensioners and their bedroom dwelling grandchildren doesn’t fit the criteria to worry about.

Richard
Richard
13 days ago
Reply to  Dr John Ball

John.

Time for a ‘ me to movement’ 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 …….?

Cofid
Cofid
13 days ago
Reply to  Neil Anderson

The problem seems to be however that he has now declared war.

Doctor Trousers
13 days ago
Reply to  Neil Anderson

Another extremist here butty.

Marc
Marc
13 days ago

I want an independent Wales and Scotland and a United Ireland, ipso facto am I now to be considered a terrorist? The two lessers in the leadership contest are getting more desperate and ridiculous as each day passes. Can we expect a Sunak u turn in 12 hours time?

George Atkinson
George Atkinson
13 days ago

Little fascist rat. This is pure fascism. Can we call him and his parties behaviour towards Wales extremist terrorism?

Arwyn
Arwyn
13 days ago

Yup, that is fascism. Fair play, every passing comment from the Tories seems to ratchet up the urgency for Welsh independence.

Fi yn unig
Fi yn unig
9 days ago

FASCISM – any right wing nationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian and hierarchical structure that is fundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism’. Dictionary definition. LIBERALISM – ‘a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law’. Dictionary definition. These are not MY words but the meanings defined in the dictionary. Nobody desiring independence in Wales and Scotland falls into the first category which mentions ‘nationalism’, a label stuck on us as a diversionary insult. The only reason we cannot stick the correct label on those who DO… Read more »

I Humphrys
I Humphrys
9 days ago
Reply to  Fi yn unig

These days we have Neo Cons and Neo Libs, both dodgy crews.

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
13 days ago

Rishi Sunak reveals his true Modi Operandi, or how to outlaw Plaid Cymru…

A vote for the Tories in Wales is a vote for the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica’s For Wales See England…

John
John
13 days ago

Dod fy enw i ar ben dy rhestr Rishi bach!

David
David
13 days ago

When GSTQ(k) is played on TV, the sound button by the act of God is muted.

Alan Jones
Alan Jones
13 days ago

I’m in, It’s only taken 65 years but finally, I’m a rebel 😎.

Cathy Jones
Cathy Jones
13 days ago

Looks like its time to hoist the rebel flag and be prepared to be put on a list…
The “UK” has failed.

Cymru am byth!

hdavies15
hdavies15
13 days ago

This silly little man is now so desperate to please the jingoistic xenophobic wing of his party which is well over 3/4 of its membership. It’s quite hilarious to watch Sunak and the witch-doll Truss each trying to outdo each other in trawling the gutters for support. “Oooh, I hate minorities more than you” “I’ll give bigger handouts than you”. Farce.

joe bydon
joe bydon
13 days ago

a list of extremists where were he to become Prime Minister

Peter Cuthbert
Peter Cuthbert
13 days ago

And me too! No doubt MI5 (or is it MI6?) will have hacked the Yes Cymru membership database by now and made a list of all our names. And then, of course there is the Plaid membership list and the Scottish Nationalists too, though will they have added Sinn Féin’s membership or are they sensitive to the Good Friday Agreement? Probably not as I doubt if they recruit Sppoks from ordinary people.

Next on the list will be a ban on publications that advocate a break up of the Union…

Dai Rob
Dai Rob
13 days ago

I “vilify” the UK.

Come get me Richie!!

John
John
13 days ago

Perhaps we should bombard him with volunteers for his list.

His secret police can then waste their time chasing us rather than persecuting poor people who need protection from his ravaging policies.

One of the two witnesses
One of the two witnesses
13 days ago

So I’m an “extremist” now because I don’t want to be ruled by unelected foreigners?
There, a lot of us. Good luck ‘6
And all this from the furthest right wing extremists this hostage situation has known since Moseley

Dean Thomas
Dean Thomas
13 days ago

This topic will come up in tonight’s hustings in Cardiff. They’ll both react by talking about their “passion for the Union”, and will have a few digs at Sturgeon, Price, and possibly Drakeford, for being “the enemy within”. Any Celt who supports the Conservatives should ask themselves some very serious questions.

The Original Mark
The Original Mark
13 days ago

It won’t be the first time I’ve been put on a list, It won’t be the last time I stand up for something I believe in! Cymru am Byth, No Pasaran!

Dr John Ball
Dr John Ball
12 days ago

Mark

I don’t know who you are but you brought back memories of the sixties and the agents and the not-so-secret police.
Won’t be the first time for me either!

Gareth C
Gareth C
13 days ago

What next? Another Defence of the Realm Act? That worked out well in Ireland didn’t it!!!

Mr Williams
Mr Williams
13 days ago

Then count me in!

Steve Duggan
Steve Duggan
13 days ago

Lol ! It looks like Sunak will have to imprison the majority of people in Scotland and at least a third of the population of Cymru! Or perhaps he’ll try and deport us all to Rwanda or something !

Llefain
Llefain
12 days ago

Well, here we go. This is the breed of Cons now and it won’t get better as life gets tougher in the future.
Big words and small thoughts.
But I won’t do him the disservice of saying he is too stupid to have known fully how this idiotic and already awful (bigotry pandering) idea would be taken, and to not have intended every bit of that.
He has reason to think the bonus hope of criminalising democratic movements and thought in the Celtic countries is what his party’s voters would want.

Believe him.

Last edited 12 days ago by Llefain
Erisian
Erisian
12 days ago

Pretty rich coming from a man who seeks to lead the party which hates the reality of the UK so much it seeks to impose the fantasy version it’s supporters believe themselves to have been living in for decades.

Quornby
Quornby
12 days ago

Rishi…… You, your party, and your “precious” union can go hang. Put me on your list.

Last edited 12 days ago by Quornby
I Humphrys
I Humphrys
9 days ago

People in India will be appalled! Someone should write to Gravitas (on You Tube).

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