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Senedd Member suggests ban for those without Covid passes from public transport, coffee shops and gyms

10 Jan 2022 2 minute read
A Covid pass, left, and Alun Davies MS, right.

A Senedd Member has suggested that unvaccinated people in Wales should be banned from public transport, coffee shops and gyms.

Alun Davies, the Labour Senedd Member for Blaenau Gwent, was responding to the news of tougher restrictions on the unvaccinated in Italy.

There, people wanting to use public transport, coffee shops, hotels, gyms and a number of other everyday venues will now have to prove they have been vaccinated or that they have recovered from a recent COVID infection.

Previously, proof of a negative coronavirus test was enough to use these services, and a Covid pass was only necessary to attend sports events, concerts, theatres, and indoor restaurants.

Responding to the new restrictions in Italy, Alun Davies said: “I hope that the Welsh Govt will use our covid passes in this way to reduce regulations when the time is right for everyone who is fully vaccinated.”

In Wales, people need to show their NHS Covid Pass to gain entry to cinemas, theatres and concert halls. People can also show a negative LFT result from the previous 24 hours

Prior to the current restrictions, which has closed nightclubs and banned crowds at elite sporting events, the scheme also applied to nightclubs as well as unseated indoor live events for more than 500 people, unseated outdoor live events for more than 4,000 people.

Covid passes in Wales have been backed by Labour and Plaid Cymru but opposed by the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats.

Last month the leader of the Welsh Conservatives, Andrew RT Davies, said he would continue to vote against Covid passes in Wales despite the UK Government rolling them out in England.

“To date, there’s been no evidence provided to show they stop the spread of coronavirus,” he said. “As such, we will continue to vote against their use, and any extension, in Wales.”


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Kerry Davies
Kerry Davies
10 months ago

Excellent idea. When is Mr Davies delivering my free smartphone?

CommonSense
CommonSense
10 months ago

Does any of the people thinking like this ever think about the staff who would have to deal with it?

Jack
Jack
10 months ago

The credibility of Covid passes was somewhat undermined when they decided to close/limit attendance for most venues that need them.

hdavies15
hdavies15
10 months ago

This man purports to be some kind of “progressive liberal”. Now he’s showing seriously authoritarian traits. So you will need a test before you can jump on a train, what’s wrong with wearing a mask which was deemed good enough until passport madness caught on among certain politicians ?. Most of the population is jabbed either 2x or 3x, so the risk is low as far as serious illness is concerned unless you are party of a vulnerable group in which case the best advice is stay away from others and let them get on with their lives. What we… Read more »

Cymro Cymraeg
Cymro Cymraeg
10 months ago

Alun Bach – wedi colli’r plot! A politician with ‘little man’ syndrome.

George
George
10 months ago

Is a bigger stick really the thing that’s needed? There’s under 10% of eligible people in Wales who haven’t had any vaccine, those who haven’t yet come for their first doesn’t seem to be decreasing but covid passes and further restrictions haven’t convinced them otherwise. What are their concerns? How can we make those go away? Not how can we push them into following more radical persons.

What Ismyname
What Ismyname
10 months ago

At the moment, getting proof of vaccination appears to require jumping through various hoops, including getting a log in with English NHS web, uploading a photograph of a passport or driving licence and producing a video of yourself reading out a code number. Many people are unable to do this, especially making a video. Older people in particular may find this an insurmountable obstacle, and may no longer possess a passport or driving licence. They are precisely the ones that depend on public transport for basic needs like food shopping, collecting prescriptions, etc. Yes, I know it is possible to… Read more »

Carol Loughlin
Carol Loughlin
10 months ago
Reply to  What Ismyname

I’m an older person on a pension living in Wales and I had no problem registering for a covid pass without uploading a video.

What Ismyname
What Ismyname
10 months ago
Reply to  Carol Loughlin

I have had a number of people tell me that videos were required. I think it depends on the records they already have for you and whether these suffice to verify your identity.

What Ismyname
What Ismyname
10 months ago
Reply to  What Ismyname

Fortunately, while over retirement age, I am still able to work as a freelance from home full time, so can afford delivery charges for food. I have not dared to apply for the pass. Even having a photograph taken of me causes me severe anxiety. The thought of someone taking a video of me is absolutely terrifying even if I had someone to do it. Since I live alone, I do not. I do not have a video camera. I am just resigned to continuing in lockdown forever. I have not been out of the house or seen anyone except… Read more »

David
David
10 months ago
Reply to  What Ismyname

If you are unable to access the digital version or do not have photographic ID, you can request a paper certificate. 
This paper certificate has been designed for international travel but will be a valid evidence for entering a domestic venue or event. The paper NHS COVID certificate only provides evidence of full vaccination.
Paper certificates can only be issued if:

  • you have had a full course of the COVID-19 vaccine (you should wait 5 days after your final dose before requesting it)
  • you are aged 12 or over

Call 0300 303 5667

defaid
defaid
10 months ago

How well is it working in Italy?

(Serious question– not just looking for likes with an ambiguous statement)

Brian Coman
Brian Coman
10 months ago

The way things are going in Wales we won’t need to show any passes as places are closing weekly. Maybe all the people who support Drakeford should be forced to join Momentum with membership cardsl ike our glorious leader
whose silent support is worth noting.

defaid
defaid
10 months ago

Hmmm. Requesting a passport took about ten minutes, including a photo of my driving licence and a two second video reciting some numbers. (I’m not at all photogenic 😥 and don’t want to do that again).

I now have to wait up to 24 hours for an email telling me whether or not my video matches my licence.

It all seems a bit silly: it would probably be easier (and in many cases less stressful) just to drop in on your GP.

Also, NHS UK’s login website doesn’t work on Opera browser so I had to use Chrome.

defaid
defaid
10 months ago
Reply to  defaid

23 minutes. Apparently I passed their checks.

They could have worded that with a bit more tact.

Why, on NHS UK, are the ID requirements less stringent for England. Is NHS UK misnamed?

Now I just have to remember my password…

Jonathan Edwards
Jonathan Edwards
10 months ago

Lord, what fools these mortals be!

Rob
Rob
10 months ago

If it can keep society open & we can get rid of these restrictions once and for all, then I am more than happy to carry one. All over social media people are screaming about the rights of the unvaccinated and how they are being victimised (Novak Djokovic for example). That’s fair enough, but what about the rights of those who HAVE been vaccinated?
Why should people who have complied with the rules for the last 2 years, have got themselves vaccinated, be subject to further restrictions because others refuse to get the vaccine?

Last edited 10 months ago by Rob
CJPh
CJPh
10 months ago

% of our population that have received 2/3 shots is high – most data (and even some media & governmental narrative) show that the spread is not mitigated by the shot (I’m triple shotted BTW, and firmly believe in the merits of this new tech – the research into its application for cancer is really uplifting). The main reasons for pressure on the NHS now (and all other services and many facets of the supply chain and travel infrastructure too) is staff shortages due to cautious (and, surely, opportunistic) time taken off, coupled with the amount of people who are… Read more »

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