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Starmer ‘quiet’ on deal with Plaid because it ‘moves Welsh Labour to the left’, says Adam Price

16 Dec 2021 4 minute read
Adam Price picture by Plaid Cymru. Keir Starmer picture by Rwendland (CC BY-SA 4.0).

Keir Starmer has been “quiet” about the deal between Plaid Cymru and Labour because it moves the party in Wales “to the left”, Adam Price has suggested.

The Leader of Plaid Cymru took aim at Labour’s Leader in Westminster, who has yet to comment on the cooperation agreement between the two parties, during a discussion with Adrian Masters on the ITV Wales podcast, The New Normal.

Price accused Starmer of “driving the Labour Party to the right” in Westminster, and that the deal struck with Plaid moves the “Labour government in Wales to the opposite direction”.

He also suggested that were Labour to get into government in Westminster it would be “Blairite”, and “essentially embracing a sort of neoliberal political agenda”.

Adam Price said: “We’ve never voted for a majority of Conservative MPs at Westminster but we’ve had a Conservative government for over two thirds of that time I believe. That is the democratic deficit that we’ve faced for over a century and a half, and there are two potential answers to that.

“One is independence, so we’d get the kind of government and the policies based on the values that are substantially different in Wales, and are closer probably to those northern Scandinavian social democratic countries.

“Or you hope for the election of a Labour government at Westminster. Those are the two generic solutions. Now the problem with the second answer is, you’re only going to get it at most a third of the time, so it isn’t really an answer to the question, and yes I can understand why Labour voters in Wales, and by the way I hope there isn’t a Conservative administration re-elected at Westminster at the next election, clearly because that would cause further untold damage to the people of Wales.

“But even if you get the election of a Labour government, A well it’s got going to be there forever and you know you’re going to return to the problem of a Conservative government.

“Even now with all the problems, you know Peppa Pig and all the rest of it, we’re not seeing a significant and substantial Labour lead which would you know, at this point in an election cycle you would expect a much stronger Labour lead. So it’s looking uncertain at the very best that a Labour government will be elected, and furthermore look at Keir Starmer and the way that he’s driving the Labour Party to the right, you know to the centre and to the right wing of his party.”

‘Opposite direction’ 

He added: “Obviously the changes to the Shadow Cabinet etcetera and he’s been very quiet about the Plaid Cymru cooperation agreement hasn’t he, probably because that’s driven the Labour Party and the Labour government in Wales to the opposite direction.”

Adrian Masters asked: “Would you like him to be saying something about it?”

Price replied: “I don’t particularly care what Keir Starmer thinks about it because we’re doing it anyway. We certainly don’t need his permission in Plaid Cymru to do it.

“I think it says, if your hope is the election of Keir Starmer, then that’s a fairly desperate position to be in, in one sense because if that’s the best you can hope for. What? Another sort of Blairite Labour government, not really getting to grips with the fundamental problems, and essentially embracing a sort of neoliberal political agenda. Well that’ll do nothing to actually solve our problems, whereas what we’ve got in the cooperation agreement is a very very significant shift towards a radical programme in terms of the housing crisis, in terms of extending universality in areas of key public services.

“We’re not getting anything like that radical thinking from the Labour Party at Westminster.”


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GW Atkinson
GW Atkinson
11 months ago

In other words Starmer isn’t happy that the left wing part of his party (Welsh Labour) has done a deal with left wing nationalists because it goes against the very institution he sold his arse to for his worthless peerage. The man stinks of English establishmen, he bows down to them like a trule lickspittle and he is in charge of a party that was meant to represent working class people against his entitled establishment overlords. Absolute rat.

Dave
Dave
11 months ago

almost choked on my tea reading this lol Plaid Cymru a left wing party? the party that backs foxhunting for the toffs sorry Adam pull the other one

GW Atkinson
GW Atkinson
11 months ago
Reply to  Dave

Do you even know the difference between left and right wing? Left wing doesn’t have to mean full blown communism.

Jack
Jack
11 months ago

“we’re not seeing a significant and substantial Labour lead”

This is factually incorrect. There have now been 11 polls in a row showing a 5%+ lead.

Adam Price’s party support cutting income tax and reintroducing fox hunting. Hardly left wing themselves.

Gaynor Jones
Gaynor Jones
11 months ago
Reply to  Jack

Fox hunting is not a class issue in Wales, it is a humane issue.

Richard 1
Richard 1
11 months ago
Reply to  Gaynor Jones

It is a philosophical issue, centred on domination and control. That’s why no left-leaning party should tolerate it; bit of an issue for Plaid in retaining the support of a traditionalist farming mindset.,

hdavies15
hdavies15
11 months ago
Reply to  Richard 1

Too many of Plaid’s “thought leaders” are wedded to an urban attitude towards what goes on in rural life. Fox hunting as conducted by the horsey set is as alien to many farmers as it is to townies but farmers have kill foxes occasionally as they prey on young livestock. Some of the Plaid people can’t see the difference.

GW Atkinson
GW Atkinson
11 months ago
Reply to  Jack

These polls are completely irrelevant until election time, when it actually matters. The media has plenty of time to brainwash people into voting tory until then. Is 5% substantial anyway? Especially as its a two party system.

Dr Keith W Darlington
Dr Keith W Darlington
11 months ago
Reply to  GW Atkinson

Five percent is definitely not enough. During the mid-term of a Parliament, the opposition party needs to lead by at least 15 to 20 points consistently over 12 months or more to have a chance of victory, and even then it’s not guaranteed. This is because many voters return to their default party when they get closer to a GE. For example, both Kinnock and Milliband were consistently scoring leads of this kind yet neither could win a GE. At present, Starmer is not gaining leads anywhere near their levels, let alone a GE victory level.

Dr Keith W Darlington
Dr Keith W Darlington
11 months ago
Reply to  Jack

By significant, I think Price means that it’s not enough to secure a victory at the next election. And that is correct. During the mid-term of a Parliament, the opposition party needs leads of 15 to 20 points consistently over 12 months or more to have a chance of victory, and even then it’s not guaranteed. This is because many voters return to their default party when they get closer to a GE. For example, both Kinnock and Milliband were consistently scoring leads of this kind yet neither could win a GE. At present, Starmer is not gaining leads anywhere… Read more »

SundanceKid
SundanceKid
11 months ago
Reply to  Jack

Yes, and during the same time, they lost 4,000 votes at a recent by-election where dissatisfaction with the Tory party had reached peak levels since their landslide victory in 2019.
They celebrated that result because the percentage of Labour votes in that constituency was up – but only because the number of conservative voters was down!

If you think Labour are winning a general election in 2024, I fear you will be sorely disappointed.

Last edited 11 months ago by SundanceKid
Richard
Richard
11 months ago
Reply to  Jack

As a life long opponent of Animal Sports – it came a shock to see both the above coordinated comments – re that all folk lke me are all drawn fron the left wing and that Plaid are involved in supporting hunts etc.

……not Aoril 1st is it ?

Pob lwc
Pob lwc
11 months ago

What would Price know about Starmer’s thinking? And who even cares? Starmer doesn’t lead Labour in Wales, isn’t First Minister, and isn’t UK Prime Minister, so who gives a toss?

GW Atkinson
GW Atkinson
11 months ago
Reply to  Pob lwc

Everybody knows Starmers thinking. He is a mouthpiece for the English establishment and that’s all we need to know.

Notta Bott
Notta Bott
11 months ago

I do love how Adam can utterly strike a nerve with few words. Not content with winding the Tor*es up lately.

j humphrys
j humphrys
11 months ago

Well, Plaid are definitely a Left party, so The Price Is Right!

Last edited 11 months ago by j humphrys
Malcolm rj
Malcolm rj
11 months ago

Michal foot would be turning in his grave A LORD the leader of the British labour party GOD help the working class

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