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Telegraph reports ‘boom’ in ‘Britons’ quitting England for Wales

15 Oct 2024 3 minute read
Abergavenny towards Ysgyryd Fawr. Image: Visit Monmouthshire

Stephen Price

A Sunday Telegraph article has highlighted a record high in migrants from England moving to other parts of the UK amid cost of living struggles – with Wales seeing the most dramatic increase.

Discussing newly published data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS), Economics Reporter, Melissa Lawford, shared that net migration out of England to other nations in the UK ‘soared by 53pc’ in the year to June 2023 to hit 31,393.

The levels of internal migration are the highest since comparable data began in 2001-2, excluding the height of the pandemic.

Wales

Wales has seen the most dramatic increase in migration from England, with a 65% increase year on year to 17, 559 – again, a record high save for 2020, standing in stark contrast to the net outflow seen a decade ago.

Using data from Centre for Cities from 2022, Lawson explained that “people are most likely to move to Wales when they are student age; when they are in their early 30s; and aged between 55 and 64”.

Cardiff was the local authority that recorded the highest level of net inward migration in Wales, with concerns from locals voiced regularly over the number of houses being built, who they are being built for, and the impact on local schools, roads and surgeries.

Cardiff view from above

Meanwhile, Scotland saw a more modest increase of 13,900 – a figure 39% higher than before the Covid 19 pandemic.

Lawford sees the current migration trends as economically driven, in contrast to the pandemic ‘race for space’ and escape from England’s cities.

She writes: “Net internal migration out of England surged during the pandemic, when lockdown and the shift to homeworking triggered a race for space, but returned to pre-Covid levels in 2020-21. This suggests that the new rise is not an extended pandemic trend but a fresh response to the cost of living crisis.”

“The year to mid-2023 encompassed the worst of the inflation crisis, which peaked at a 41-year high of 11.1pc in October 2022.

“Rents also soared across the country during this period, while house prices were at their post-pandemic highs.”

Flight 

Discussing the starkly different house prices across the UK, along with data from Hamptons and Countrywide Estate Agents, Lawton shared that people moving from London made up 7% of buyers moving into Wales in 2024 so far. This data doesn’t include those renting or moving into, or being allocated, Welsh social housing.

Northern Ireland saw the smallest increase in net migration, falling to a three year low of 39 people.

This data comes as official data showed the largest rise in the UK population on record since 1971 – figures Lawson says ‘masks a major internal movement within the UK population’.


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Frank
Frank
2 months ago

It’s a modern day invasion. Drip drip drip.

hdavies15
hdavies15
2 months ago

This report suggests that incomers from England are allocated social housing in Wales. That’s a bit rich when we consider the waiting lists within Welsh authorities who move at a snail’s pace to address the needs of local people.

Gaynor
Gaynor
2 months ago
Reply to  hdavies15

It happens. I see this everyday.

Frank
Frank
2 months ago
Reply to  Gaynor

Can you elaborate on that statement please.

Nia James
Nia James
2 months ago

Well, I never! With a decent investment pot Wales offers so much, and, as one pioneer from Oxfordshire once told me, “everything here is so cheap”. Note, also, the line on “moving into, or being allocated, Welsh social housing”. Thank heavens that we haven’t got any Welsh people needing housing, and we should also be grateful that our Councils have an abundance of resources.

Frank
Frank
2 months ago

Last night I sat down and watched an episode of Eastenders which is quite a rare occasion for me. The programme moved from one miserable shouty depressing scene to another for half an hour. If this is an example of the norm in England it’s no wonder they are moving out.

Ann
Ann
2 months ago
Reply to  Frank

Some years ago we had my mother staying with us to recover from a cataract operation, she had also begun the descent into dementia. We sat her in front of the TV to watch Emmerdale, one of her favourites while we got on with setting up a bed for her in our living room as she couldn’t manage the stairs. Suddenly she said “Why are we shouting at each other?” I had to point out that the shouting was coming from the TV. It seems as if rural Yorkshire is no better than London!

John Ellis
John Ellis
2 months ago

‘Wales has seen the most dramatic increase in migration from England, with a 65% increase year on year …’ We made that move back in 2016. But although my other half and I are both Manchester born and bred, I moved to Wales as a student and stayed on here to live and work for the whole of my 20s and 30s, and my partner spent part of her childhood in Wales as a consequence of her dad’s work. And both of us have gained at least some knowledge of Welsh. So maybe we’re not wholly typical?! And, as an afterthought,… Read more »

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Bari
Bari
2 months ago
Reply to  John Ellis

Ellis is from Elisedd … Very old Welsh surname

John Ellis
John Ellis
2 months ago
Reply to  Bari

I know! But, perhaps unfortunately, there’s another alternative derivation, from the κοινὴ (imperial Roman era) Greek rendering of the name of the Hebrew prophet Elijah, which was ‘Elias’. I’ve no idea from which of these twin alternatives my surname derives: as far as family memory goes back – which isn’t that far; only to the mid-19th century – my dad’s ancestors on the paternal side all lived in either Manchester or Salford, with just an odd one in Cheshire out towards Warrington. My dad’s dad was a pretty ordinary door-to-door insurance man, a chronic asthmatic with a taste for the… Read more »

Beau Brummie
Beau Brummie
2 months ago

Cymru desperately needs to start attracting the working age professional classes, before it is hollowed out to contain either the (diminishing) young, or the (dependant) old.

Why do you think that Bronglais Paediatric Dept is closing? That’s a massive blow to Ceredigion.

Rhiannon
Rhiannon
2 months ago
Reply to  Beau Brummie

But it’s not closing – it’s reducing its service. Don’t make things sound even worse than they are.

CapM
CapM
2 months ago
Reply to  Beau Brummie

“Cymru desperately needs to start attracting the working age professional classes,”
Surely you mean retaining rather than “attracting”

J Jones
J Jones
2 months ago

If they 1) Work, 2) respect our language and culture, 3) don’t just come here to spiv off limited public resources, then I’m Ok with this.

You only have to travel to much of the soul-less urban sprawl that is England to understand why they want to change countries, but then we need to regulate our developments so that they’re quality not quantity.

Padi Phillips
Padi Phillips
2 months ago
Reply to  J Jones

I think that our language and culture need more than mere respect, I would expect people moving into areas where Cymraeg is strongest to learn the language tout suite and actually demonstrate that respect is genuine.

Howie
Howie
2 months ago

So why wasn’t this factored into other housing issues reports by WG an LA’s, likely more housing used in this migration than 2nd homes or holiday lets by Welsh families.

David
David
2 months ago

Colonisation is still live and kicking.

Shân Morgain
Shân Morgain
2 months ago

I am an incomer long ago and proud to be called “adopted Welsh”. My concern here is my partner and friends often say they value my good manners and respect for Welsh people and culture. This obviously means they don’t find it standard by other English incomers.

There is an opening for a Croeso a Cymru project to help incomers settle in. Useful information on practical resources locally and advice on how to slow down, where to go for days out, a potted Welsh history – and do’s dont on how to show respect. Could make a good website.

Barnaby
Barnaby
2 months ago
Reply to  Shân Morgain

Even better have all economic migrants pass the Life In Wales test – 24 questions covering topics such as Welsh values, history, traditions and everyday life – before they’re granted settled status.

Padi Phillips
Padi Phillips
2 months ago
Reply to  Barnaby

And the test to be taken in Cymraeg!

Padi Phillips
Padi Phillips
2 months ago
Reply to  Shân Morgain

It’s been tried before. The late Gwynfor Evans promoted a similar scheme in the early 1980s but it was a flop. Those who move here who want to integrate do just that, those who are just seeking to colonise do not, and indeed, resent any attempt to remind them that they are now living in someone else’s country. Personally I would like to see legislation brought in that extends the scope of Section 37 of the 1985 Housing Act to encompass all housing in Cymru, which would mean that anyone wishing to purchase a home would have to pass a… Read more »

Padi Phillips
Padi Phillips
2 months ago
Reply to  Padi Phillips

I think your sentiments are appreciated Shân, but you do come across as a little naïve. The reason that ‘standard’ English incomers don’t respect Welsh people and Cymraeg is that they tend to think of themselves as somehow superior, though often that’s not conscious, but manifest in their refusal to learn and speak Cymraeg, or even in many cases even to learn how to correctly pronounce the name of the place they live in after having lived there in some cases for years – that’s if they haven’t already changed the name to something meaningless (in the context) in English.… Read more »

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Alun
Alun
2 months ago

“People are most likely to move to Wales when they are student age”

Students come to universities. Who knew?

Shân Morgain
Shân Morgain
2 months ago
Reply to  Alun

Yes Alun that’s a useful, logical explanation. Shame you added the snippy bit. Spoiled a nice contribution.

Dai Ponty
Dai Ponty
2 months ago

As my name says i live in the Pontypridd area when in town i go into the same cafe and i hear the accents of people talking to others and they all say the same they have moved to this area from social housing in London south east of England to social housing here the councils in England pay money to Welsh councils they also move these families to other parts of England poorer areas of England like the North East or North of England

Rhufawn Jones
Rhufawn Jones
2 months ago
Reply to  Dai Ponty

Same in Gwynedd. These housing associations are complicit in colonisation.

Rhufawn Jones
Rhufawn Jones
2 months ago

Gwladychu. Wedi ei hyrwyddo gan Lywodraeth Cymru a’r cynlluniau ‘datblygu’ lleol y maent yn rhoi rheidrwydd ar Gynghorau i’w mabwysiadu efo niferoedd enfawr o dai, tra bo ein poblogaeth naturiol yn syrthio. Mae’r gelyn o fewn y gaer.

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
2 months ago

Now will these English migrants coming over here in there small coupes respect that they are now in another country not an extension of England as seen in Southern Spain where expats open English bars , refuse to engage with the Spanish language & culture, turning it into Blackpool in the sun. Very likely. The history books tell us so. Look, I’m not taring all English with the same brush. We have enough Welsh people in Wales that would happily stab us in the back. And of course there are good English people who love Wales, who want to immerse… Read more »

Blinedig
Blinedig
2 months ago
Reply to  Y Cymro

Diolch am ddeud hynny. Sais dw i, a symudes i yma efo fy mhartner (Cymraes ydy hi) a ddaeth yn ôl i’r wlad ei hen famau. Mae’r iaith wedi dysgu cymaint i mi am y diwylliant, yr hanes, y gwleidyddiaeth ac y tradoddiadau. Byddwn i’n dweud wrth unrhywun sy’n meddwl am symud, plis meddyliwch am ddysgu’r iaith. Dyma’r lleiaf y gallwch chi ei wneud i ddangos parch. Gyda llaw, does neb yn darllen y Telegraph yng Nghynru, siwr?

Llyn
Llyn
2 months ago

I thought the Daily Telegraph and it’s right-wing allies believed that wokery, 20mph, rampant anti-English sentiment and the COVID restrictions were putting people off visiting Wales? Now there’s saying there’s an exodus to live in Wales?

Tomos
Tomos
2 months ago

Where I’m from you get a lot of older people who have come here to die buy up the houses. If not that then they buy holiday homes, I think there should be border controls to be honest. Ghost towns and a high population of imported older migrants are a big strain on the economy. Colonisation of Wales is still ongoing unfortunately, and the only nationalist party around wouldn’t come a mile from this conversation.

Ernie The Smallholder
Ernie The Smallholder
2 months ago
Reply to  Tomos

The retired population even if they are from England pay their taxes.

The problem for us is the collector is the UK government and they short change us in Wales.

Mihan
Mihan
2 months ago

they shouldnt get social housing!

Garycymru
Garycymru
2 months ago

It shows. The racism towards the Welsh I hear, is now every other day, rather than once or twice a week.
Comments like ” it sounds like they’re clearing their throats” or ” what is that gibberish on the roadsigns are unfortunately regular.
For a race of people who pretend to be protective of their culture, many of them behave absolutely appallingly towards others.

Barrie
Barrie
2 months ago

Does the Telegraph really mean “Britons”, i.e. Celts who hitherto chose to remain in the part of their homeland colonised by the Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Normans, etc. and have now decided to move to Cymru or is it referring English people who have now decided they prefer to live in Cymru?

Ernie The Smallholder
Ernie The Smallholder
2 months ago

What does this show you ? It shows an England within the UK is failing its own population. They have given up hope for any reasonable standard of life in England and put their trust in Cymru Wales. They will be warm to the benefits of an independent Cymru Wales. It has shown that the UK (using Drakefords term) IS NO INSURANCE POLICY for Cymru Wales. This is why we should seek this alternative: To take over our own affairs and that means controlling our own economy, policies and politics. It is time to leave the disaster which is the… Read more »

David
David
2 months ago

David from birmingam

David
David
2 months ago

Don’t forget, their are 100s of thousands of Welsh people living in England, using our social housing , our resources etc, we don’t complain, so why should you?

fddfj Welsh
fddfj Welsh
1 month ago
Reply to  David

The number of Welsh in England pales into comparison – look at the size of Wales compared to England, it’s common sense. Even just Birmingham/west Midlands area there are so many more in Pembrokeshire….

William Robson
William Robson
2 months ago

The Welsh don’t like the Welsh so the friends from across the border have no chance

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