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Wales ‘a region of England’ on Westminster elections website

07 May 2022 2 minute read
The web page that lists Wales as a region of England, and (right) Westminster

Wales is a region of England, according to a Westminster web page archiving the results of the 2019 General Election.

On visiting a page showing Wales’ 2019 election results data, readers are greeted by a message saying that it “shows the general election results for Wales, which is a region in England.”

The web page includes data such as the share of the vote by party, party results and changes and seats won by party.

The error seems to be a bug, as when Wales is chosen from other parts of the website it is listed as “a country in Great Britain”. However when accessed directly by googling ‘general election results Wales 2019’ the first option offered a page where it is described as a ‘region’.

Scotland also has both web pages, one describing it as a region and another as a country.

The mistake was stumbled upon by Welsh poet Meirion McIntyre Hughes and prompted an angry response on his social media feed.

Einir Kirkwood described it as “incredible and disgraceful”.

Another user suggested that the bug had been caused by the web designers “treating England as the default in some way”.

Others tagged in Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle and asked him to change the website.


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Dewi Davies
Dewi Davies
4 months ago

Yesterdays Daily Mail said the same thing..No bug to blame there.Its a Tory rag and done deliberately.

Cathy Hill
Cathy Hill
4 months ago
Reply to  Dewi Davies

Even in the most generous reading of the facts, it is clear that Cymru is nothing but an afterthought, at best we are that bit stuck to England at worst, just some backwards region.

It makes me jolly cross, I’m not a nationalist, but I do love Cymru and I hate that we face such insults….and often when we draw attention to the various assaults on decency, intelligence and reason that the people of this country have suffered and still suffer under we are often met with ridicule and ignored.

GW Atkinson
GW Atkinson
4 months ago
Reply to  Cathy Hill

Being a Welsh nationalist is nothing like being a British nationalist. We are left wing unlike the far right British.

Llinos
Llinos
4 months ago
Reply to  GW Atkinson

Oh some of our fellow independence minded Welsh people are right wing. This was why Yes Cymru was so successful. We are united by one thing. A desire for a self – governed Cymru free from English (read UK Conservative) interference. Once that is achieved, we may have differing opinions on how it should be run. Whatever our political flavour, we stand together for independence. We don’t kneel for the master’s favour.

Quornby
Quornby
4 months ago
Reply to  Llinos

Unless our name is Hart or Cairns.

Cofid
Cofid
4 months ago
Reply to  GW Atkinson

Just a thought from my possibly imperfect reading of history. How about reframing/reclaiming the terms Britain and British to their original meanings? Y Brythoniaid vs y Saeson. Would be an interesting embarrassment to those who say they are British. Comments welcome

Marc
Marc
4 months ago
Reply to  Cathy Hill

“ I’m not a nationalist, but I do love Cymru” give it a try, you won’t start goose stepping up Queen Street

Quornby
Quornby
4 months ago
Reply to  Cathy Hill

Still not a Nationalist after all that? Why not for heavens sake?

defaid
defaid
4 months ago
Reply to  Cathy Hill

A patriot perhaps, not a nationalist?

Yes, it has become something of another N-word being based — at least in popular perception through media misuse — on hatred of somewhere else. ‘Patriot’ still carries a connotation of love for my own country and is how I describe myself.

GW Atkinson
GW Atkinson
4 months ago

That isn’t a bug. That’s deliberate. Pure scumbags, we were there before they even existed and we will still be here after they stop existing.

Llinos
Llinos
4 months ago

It’s not a bug. The perfidious unionists are trying to eradicate us by stealth.
This kind of c***u happens way too often to be anything other than deliberate

defaid
defaid
4 months ago

Two web addresses. Chrome &Google pull up the “region” version.

Opera & DuckDuckGo lead to the “country” version.

Bizarre. I suspect an examination of the sites’ histories would show that “region” was corrected but the original, mistaken site was left in place.

Typical Westminster mistakes. Just like their abuse of the word “comprise”, and tgeir inability to count counties.

https://electionresults.parliament.uk/election/2019-12-12/results/Location/Region/Wales

https://electionresults.parliament.uk/election/2019-12-12/results/Location/Country/Wales

Last edited 4 months ago by defaid
defaid
defaid
4 months ago

Comment with links awaiting approval. In the web address, substitute ‘Region’ for ‘Country’ to bring up the alternative.

Wynn
Wynn
4 months ago

This is deliberate. This issue was raised on a Scottish Independence website just over a year ago. The author – I think it was one called Stuartb – wrote this about the Commonwealth website: “At that time, in April 2020 it (the commonwealth website’s description of the United Kingdom) stated explicitly that the UK is a union of four countries: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Given the queen is head of The Commonwealth that ‘endorsement’ of Scotland’s status was significant. I’ve just checked: the website of The Commonwealth no longer has this. It now has this, IMHO odd description:… Read more »

SundanceKid
SundanceKid
4 months ago
Reply to  Wynn

Not too dissimilar to the way Putin used to describe Ukraine before his invasion of the latter. This sort of language is common among colonialists and imperialists.

Fi yn unig
Fi yn unig
4 months ago

Bearing in mind that all the words and sentences are inputted by human beings, it is certain that a number of bugs have caused this problem. They are called Ignorance, Arrogance, Antagonism and Disrespect. Education is the cure for it but those who have been found to be resistant to it display a common symptom which confuses one island with one nation. Maybe the next brighter generation will finally get it.

Mr Williams
Mr Williams
4 months ago

As we’ve been saying for 800 years: “no, we’re not!”

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
4 months ago

No doubt the Westminster & English establishment will say this was a simple mistake. But don’t believe them. It was done deliberately. This is what the English Conservative party really think of Wales.

Cai Wogan Jones
Cai Wogan Jones
4 months ago

Putin playbook. As references to Ukraine are being replaced by “New Russia” (Novorossiya), so Wales is becoming an English region in Westminsterspeak.

Drew
Drew
4 months ago

We are not England we are CYMRU!
You English should join that idiot Putin as clearly you disrespect and hold disregard to your neighbours identity. Get it in your thick skulls Mr Englishman, we are not English.

Last edited 4 months ago by Drew

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