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Wales’ seabed could be mined as part of UK Government plans to extract metals from Crown Estate

24 Jul 2022 3 minute read
The Anglesey coast

Wales’ seabed could be opened up for mining as part of UK Government’s plans to extract key metals and reduce dependence on China.

Ministers have briefed the Telegraph newspaper that they are looking at “the risks and potential for environmentally responsible extraction of minerals from coastal waters”.

The Crown Estate, a collection of lands and holdings in the United Kingdom belonging to the British monarch, currently licences extraction rights in coastal areas off Wales, England, and Northern Ireland,

The Crown Estate in Wales generated £8.7 million in revenue last year, which went into the coffers of the UK Treasury because Westminster still controls it.

Wales’ Climate Change minister Julie James has previously said that it is “outrageous” that the Crown Estate was devolved to Scotland and not Wales.

However last month the UK Government’s Energy Minister Greg Hands said that he didn’t understand the calls to devolve the Crown Estate to Wales, calling on MPs to “point me to what the problem is”.

UK Government ministers have pledged not to support mining licences unless more is known about how the practice affects the environment, they told the Telegraph.

The UK will “continue to contribute to discussions on deep-seabed mining […] pressing for the highest environmental standards,” they said.

‘Engaged’

Speaking in the Senedd in January, Julie James had said that she “completely” agreed that the Crown Estate should be devolved to Wales.

“It’s completely outrageous that it’s devolved to Scotland and not to us, and that, indeed, the returns from the Crown Estate go straight back to HM Treasury,” she said.

“They don’t even go through the Barnett formula arrangement. So, I have absolutely written to say that we want the Crown Estates devolved, and we want them devolved on the same basis as they are devolved in Scotland.

“However, in the meantime, and in the absence of a government at UK level who seems likely to do that in the foreseeable future, in the meantime, we have also sought to develop a very good relationship with the Crown Estates.

“So, both myself and Lee Waters have met with the Crown Estates to discuss the various potential in the Celtic sea and around the Welsh coast, where Crown Estate land is involved, and, also, actually, on land as well. So, Crown Estates own some land in Wales too.

“We’ve also engaged with them to make sure that we have as much of community ownership, community benefit strand in the auctions that they are conducting, although the money goes, as you say, back to the Treasury. So far, we’ve had an engaged and reasonable reception from them, although that’s no substitute, I absolutely agree, for having the thing devolved to us.”


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Malcolm rj
Malcolm rj
4 months ago

Where we’re our labour MPS when it was giving to Scotland and not to Wales sitting on their hands in parliament like they always do.Just like when they let them steal the money from the children’s fund to make the tips safe that killed all them children and are still stealing Welsh water ànd Don’t pay for it and where is All that money gone that was made in Wales when we’where the Saudi Arabia off coal for about a hundred years also we roofed the world with Welsh slate and Merthyr Tydfil was the iron capital of the world… Read more »

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
4 months ago
Reply to  Malcolm rj

Ask our Lords in the House of Fun, the ones sworn to silence on matters devolved…

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
4 months ago
Reply to  Mab Meirion

See Lord Aberdare, the Butes and the Mountstewart family in Scotland for starters…

Last edited 4 months ago by Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
4 months ago
Reply to  Mab Meirion

Baron Penrhyn etc…Slave Money reinvested over and over again…

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
4 months ago

Interesting to learn about your and Lee Waters dealings with the Crown Estates, tell us more…

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
4 months ago
Reply to  Mab Meirion

See Marine Energy Wales…Welsh Policy Update. Outcome of the deep dive into renewable energy and address from our First Minister Dec 9 2021…

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
4 months ago
Reply to  Mab Meirion

Re. the Crown Estates and its reach up the tidal stretch of rivers, just where the now cancelled Llanbedr bypass would have crossed the river Artro some half mile north of the village may have become a matter for the Crown. This may have had some bearing on its construction being pulled. Perhaps the Queen’s representative or Lee Waters might care to shed some light on this possibility….

The Original Mark
The Original Mark
4 months ago

Why aren’t our representatives in the Senedd and Welsh constituency MP’s demanding that the crown estate is devolved to Wales in parity with Scotland. Never mind having a nice chat with them Mr Waters, grow a pair and stand up for Wales.

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
4 months ago

He stands up for his vision of Wales…and who else ?

Hell Glibson
Hell Glibson
4 months ago

Plaid Cymru ought to be kicking up a stink over this issue, but they are not capable in any way.

You have to laugh, despite the levels of tragedy.

hdavies15
hdavies15
4 months ago

Any mention of that Crown Estate makes me get a rush of hate and my gaskets get stressed !. There is no good reason at all for such a thing to exist in our time. Royals would do well off a narrower platform of assets, like Charles’ Duchy, so hanging on to these expensive relics of a bygone age is just not acceptable. As things stand nothing is going to change for the foreseeable future unless a new crop of politicians are elected who don’t get sucked into the loyalist pseudo religion.

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
4 months ago
Reply to  hdavies15

The Olympians of the Bay need a good dose of looking at…

Peter Cuthbert
Peter Cuthbert
4 months ago

Whilst wholly agreeing with posters complaining about the Crown Estates not being devolved and existing as an entity, I think there is an even more important issue at stake here. This is a plan to impose highly damaging sea bed mining on Wales with absolutely zero consultation with the Senedd, or the Welsh people. This is back to exploiting Welsh minerals for English profit and we know what Wales got out of that besides with silicosis and pneumoconiosis.

Malcolm rj
Malcolm rj
4 months ago
Reply to  Peter Cuthbert

Also they leave the very dangerous tips for the Welsh people too pay to make them safe wake up Wales we need to be independent

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
4 months ago
Reply to  Peter Cuthbert

You’re so right to remind us about the world under the keels of our fishing fleet, I well remember the destruction that the Scallop dredgers did to the sea bed of Cardigan Bay. In two seasons the Queenies were gone and with them every other creature that live on and just below the sea bed, never to recover…just to speak up on behalf of my remarkable friend, the Lobster… I was also present at the meeting in the Neuadd in Dolgellau the night the representatives of Rio Tinto made their play to convince all present of their probity and the… Read more »

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
4 months ago

I know a lot more about the Crown Estates now than I did when I woke up, for a start their rights go up the estuaries as far as they were navigable some 1000 years ago…the maps are available via The Crown Estates online…of course the story starts with William the Conqueror who took all the land and coasts to the Crown…skip 700 years to 1760 when George 111 moves the income to the Exchequer…move on to the Crown Estates Act of 1961 until along comes Fat Shanks Johnson in 2019/20 and installs an Australian-Dan Labbad as CEO (worth a… Read more »

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
4 months ago

So Julie James and Lee Waters were doing what then ? Expect Rio Tinto to return to the Mawddach and suck up and filter out the gold in the sediment…

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
4 months ago
Reply to  Mab Meirion

Dan Labbad…Financial Review…Meet the Aussie who runs the Queen’s Property…

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
4 months ago
Reply to  Mab Meirion

How come Lynton Crosby is running No10 and this cobber is in charge of the Royal estate on land and sea and given that the ATC may only have a 99 year lease, the sky above. I think it must have something to do with Fat Shanks… The Middle East and Russia own great swathes of town and country and England’s water and most of the transport systems are foreign owned and the gas pipelines are owned by Canada and the country’s docks are in foreign hands and how much of England’s farmland not owned by the Dukes of Westminster… Read more »

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
4 months ago
Reply to  Mab Meirion

For reference concerning Rio Tinto and the Mawddach read ‘River of Tears’ by Richard West 1972…

Wynn
Wynn
4 months ago

Don’t forget 6,000 square miles of Scottish sea was secretly transferred to England in 1999 by New Labour he day before the Scottish Parliament came into being so we didn’t know about it. Yes we have Crown Estates but a diminished amount.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/01/scotlands-stolen-seas-technical-explanation/

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
4 months ago

What will it take for the Welsh to wake up? The Conservatives are not only riding roughshod over our nation’s soverignty but soon our human rights when either PM Liz Truss or Rishy Sunak will pull out of the European Convention on Human Rights. The Tories will not dare do similar to Scotland even though they could easily overrule the Scottish parliament having devolved the power in 2017. We in Wales on the other hand are easy picking because thanks to UK Labour devolution settlement meant Whitehall retained the power over our Crown Estate meaning England’s Treasury & Monarchy make… Read more »

Steve Duggan
Steve Duggan
4 months ago

Not content with plundering our resources on land they now want to the Welsh seabed too. All with Cymru getting very little – if anything – in return. Welsh Labour wake up ! Westminster is still using us! Back independence!

The Original Mark
The Original Mark
4 months ago
Reply to  Steve Duggan

To be fair, I don’t think we can keep blaming Welsh Labour, isn’t one definition of insanity, to keep doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome? it’s about time the voters of Wales woke up and voted for the only party that represents Wales, The when we have a Welsh party in charge in the Senedd we might be able to start thinking about independence, I won’t be holding my breath.

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
4 months ago

unwaith eto can I have my words back please Mark

Last edited 4 months ago by Mab Meirion
The Original Mark
The Original Mark
4 months ago

as long as we get the money back via our deficit I guess It could make sense. we need more investment in education and the NHS, Welsh labour and plaid coalition letting us down again

Crwtyddol
Crwtyddol
4 months ago

As I’ve said before, WG should deny planning permission. Westminster would override but there would be such an almighty row public justification and rectification would hopefully ensue

Wrexhamian
Wrexhamian
4 months ago

In effect, this is going to be another Tryweryn but without the need for them to pay any compo. Blair’s decision to hang on to the Crown Estate in Cymru is a graphic indication that he regarded Wales as a resource to be exploited.

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
4 months ago
Reply to  Wrexhamian

As well as nicking 6 Scottish oil wells…was it Blair who said f**k the Welsh ?

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