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‘We have to stop wanting to do things differently’ to England on Covid rules, says Tory MS

21 Jan 2022 2 minute read
Janet Finch Saunders speaking in the Senedd

Wales has to “stop wanting to do things differently” to England on Covid rules “just because it’s seen to be better” a Tory MS has argued.

Janet Finch-Saunders, the Conservative Senedd member for Aberconwy, made the comments as she suggested that Wales should “align” with the approach taken to the pandemic by the UK Government in England by dropping restrictions more quickly.

Plaid Cymru MS Mabon ap Gwynfor said: “Janet is the third speaker from the Conservatives to talk about learning to live with this disease. What level of deaths is acceptable to you?”

Janet Finch Saunders replied: “At the end of the day, we all regret any single death, Mabon. But we have to realise now that, in line with other countries—. If you look at England and what they’re doing, they’re able to keep the economy going whilst also protecting people’s lives.

“So, we have to stop wanting to do things differently, just because it’s seen to be better.

‘No advice or evidence’

She added: “There’s been no advice or evidence at the time that these restrictions were brought in, and I actually concur with my colleagues that we should have had a say on this. We could have done it on Zoom over the Christmas period. But I’m afraid all this is now in retrospect.

“With over 1.8 million boosters and third doses having been administered in Wales, now is the time to boost the confidence of businesses and the public after two years of restrictions.

“I have residents asking me what has been the point of these vaccines when the Welsh Government still wants to keep in place draconian measures, taking our freedoms and our liberties. I ask the First Minister to, actually, in his next announcement, to be more brave and allow the people of Wales to go about their own lives.”


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Sean Slater
Sean Slater
8 months ago

‘Seen to be better’-this surely says it all ?

Mark
Mark
8 months ago

Absolute muppet,

Arwyn
8 months ago

“Just to do things differently” is a Tory invention. They confect a lie and present it over and over again until they whip up the public and they pretend it’s the truth. They do this over and over. It should be a matter of public record that they lied. I wouldn’t make it an offence. Just make it VERY public. Let us all see them for what they are. They should hang their heads in shame.

Grayham Jones
8 months ago

Kick her out of wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 and all the rest of the English party’s not in wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Erisian
Erisian
8 months ago
Reply to  Grayham Jones

Out of office will suffice. We are not monsters.

Aled Rees
Aled Rees
8 months ago
Reply to  Erisian

I agree with Graham.Out ofWales and good ridance

Richard
Richard
8 months ago
Reply to  Grayham Jones

JFS has little concept of Wales and sees life from Llandudno with one now passed‘ old Tory wagg ‘ from days on Aberconwy Council referring to her view on Council matters being restricted within the panoramic Llandudno sea frontage of the Great and Little Orms !

Last edited 8 months ago by Richard
Barry Pandy
Barry Pandy
8 months ago

Perhaps the Tory MSs should evolve a spinal column and stop supporting the English Tories in everything they say and do just so that they can be seen to be sycophants.

M.R.
M.R.
8 months ago
Reply to  Barry Pandy

I agree with you. These Tories in the Welsh Government are doing my head in with their negativity. I would guess we are all glad that Labour are in power in Wales, and I am not a Labour supporter, but I am a Drakeford supporter. He has shown the clown in No 10 how it should be done.

Dewi Morris
Dewi Morris
8 months ago
Reply to  M.R.

Clywch Clywch

Kerry Davies
Kerry Davies
8 months ago

Groveling in the extreme. It is England that is out of step not the rest of the planet. This English exceptionalism has created the European records for deaths from Covid, inequality, austerity and just plain nastiness and JFS supports that vicious regime.

Argol Fawr!
Argol Fawr!
8 months ago

JFS… “just because it’s seen to be better”. I’m speechless! Well nearly. If Wales had adopted a speedier relaxation to England she’d be saying the same. Just as we!re used to, Tory party lackey talk.

Argol Fawr!
Argol Fawr!
8 months ago
Reply to  Argol Fawr!

Post note… Could someone please explain to her what she said.

Kerry Davies
Kerry Davies
8 months ago
Reply to  Argol Fawr!

Better that they explain that Japan has 99% compliance with mask wearing and hand sanitising with a death toll roughly three times that of Wales ….. in a population 40 times bigger.
I heard a Tory say; “Ah but they’re an island.” As if Great Britain wasn’t one.

Nia James
Nia James
8 months ago

Janet Finch-Saunders personifies the branch of Welsh Conservatives who desperately want us to throw off our Welsh clothing and just shiver under the English umbrella. One nation, one rule! Just not our nation or or rules.

Erisian
Erisian
8 months ago
Reply to  Nia James

I think they’d turn out to be exactly like the banks and demand the umbrella back the moment it started raining.

hdavies15
hdavies15
8 months ago

Tory lemming shouts “follow Boris over the cliff “

Erisian
Erisian
8 months ago

Draconian? It’s one of those words they use without thinking isn’t it?
On the other hand, they so often speak without thinking I’m hardly surprised.
Just more evidence that Tory and Welsh are mutualy exclusive terms.

GW Atkinson
GW Atkinson
8 months ago

Imagine wanting to copy failure.

Quornby
Quornby
8 months ago

What a dumbcluck this woman is.

George
George
8 months ago

Tories have wanted to pretend covid doesn’t exist from the very start but we’re approaching 2 years into this now and questions about what happens next and how to boost confidence in “normal” life again should be heard.

It’s poor showing to make any mention of England, as it is to not discuss how improved ventilation systems can play a role going forward, but hidden away in all the nonsense this MS speaks is a good point.

Ed Jones
Ed Jones
8 months ago

My Senedd member, ladies and gents, a truly silly individual, so silly in fact she’s unaware of it, this is what makes her and her Anglo apologist ilk so dangerous – the hatred so many along the Llandudno coast have for Welsh speakers such as myself is heartbreaking, I don’t dislike them (or indeed anyone – well, not for long!), I just wish they would make the effort to get involved and appreciate what Wales (mine, theirs, or as it should be, ours) truly has to offer. (am having a bad day, forgive the waffle) Plaid and Labour (and the… Read more »

Peter Cuthbert
Peter Cuthbert
8 months ago
Reply to  Ed Jones

Don’t all Senedd members have access to the sort of data that was publshed in one of the articles on this site showing how much better Wales has done than England in managing Covid? Of course the ‘Freedom’ she is talking about is the Ayn Rand type in which the only person in the world who matters is ‘ME’ and if my freedom infects and kills lots of others then that is their fault for being lesser beings. I cannot understand how these folk can operate in such a selfish mental landscape.

ISabella Jones
8 months ago

for a politician, definitely strange statements, her logic is incomprehensible! And what is she guided by? but definitely not for the benefit of their voters

Richard
Richard
8 months ago

It’s a case of doing things better with better outcomes that make things better for the people of Llandudno Janet 🤡

Glyn Jones
Glyn Jones
8 months ago

Siani fach, nid Lloegr mo Cymru, er ymdrechion cynifer o’n gwleidyddion i’w throi felly. Does dim rhaid inni gopïo Lloegr a’i dilyn i ddamnedigaeth.

Steve Duggan
Steve Duggan
8 months ago

The UK government got it wrong, pure and simple. The highest deaths in Europe says it all. The Tories have been more concerned with the economy than people’s lives – it’s disgusting.

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