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Welsh Labour to debate further devolution from UK party

06 Mar 2023 3 minute read
Jack Sargeant

Labour Party members and affiliated groups will be asked to vote this weekend on a motion to further devolve the rulebook to Welsh Labour.

Alyn and Deeside MS, Jack Sargeant will speak in favour of the motion at Welsh Labour’s Spring Conference in Llandudno (10 – 12 March).

September 2022 marked 25 years of Welsh devolution and in an interview with Nation.Cymru, Mr Sargeant explains why he thinks now is the time to take his party on that same journey.

“Looking back now, we’ve been on the journey of devolution since the late Rhodri Morgan – an incredible leader.

“In Wales, and within the party, we’ve been successful when we’ve made decisions in devolution.

“If you look back to the 2021 (Senedd) election – we won that, under the circumstances in which Labour in the UK was struggling. We came out with our best results ever in the Senedd.”

Unique

It was, Mr Sargeant said “the uniqueness of Welsh Labour,” and the personal appeal of First Minister Drakeford, which secured such a solid victory in the 2021 Senedd elections.

To date, all Welsh First Ministers have been Labour.

Having already spoken of his admiration for both Rhodri Morgan and Mark Drakeford, what does Mr Sargeant have to say about former First Ministers Alun Michael and Carwyn Jones?

He says he prefers “the boldness” of Mr Morgan and Mr Drakeford, “that’s where the devolution journey started, and then grew,” he said.

Naturally, he hopes that everyone will get on board on Saturday. However, he said that he’s also, “realistic in the fact that some people will not see this as the route to go.”

“We’ll see, but I’m confident that this motion will be passed. It has good support off the Senedd Labour Group and Labour Party representatives from all corners of Wales.

“It’s about protecting, and strengthening, that uniqueness that makes Welsh Labour successful for the next 25 years.

“If this motion passes, I’d imagine there would need to be a piece of work from Welsh Labour or (its) executive committee, about what further devolution looks like.”

Mr Sargeant would like that to happen “as a matter of urgency” he says, “then the big step would be to take our proposals, in solidarity, together as one Welsh Labour, to the UK conference in September.”

It would then be up to UK Labour to give permission to further devolve the rulebook to Welsh Labour.

Against

The motion to conference has been tabled by four Constituency Labour Party (CLPs) branches, being: Ceredigion; Ynys Môn; Montgomeryshire and Clwyd South.

Ken Skates, Welsh Labour MS for Clwyd South told Nation.Cymru that he will not be supporting the motion put forward by his CLP.

He said: “I think Welsh Labour has proved to be an incredibly successful election machine in the past 25 years, but I don’t think it should split from UK Labour. We are stronger when we are part of a bigger organisation.”

Mr Skates added: “I have to confess, I don’t take as much of an interest in the devolution of responsibilities within the party as I do devolution to our nation, and to our regions.”


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Lib Dem YesCymru Ilfiltrator
Lib Dem YesCymru Ilfiltrator
1 year ago

Labour is the most astute faction at holding power in Wales since the Aberffraw dynasty of Gruffydd ap Cynan 1100 to 1284. And that is all devolution is for Labour, not the country.

GW Atkinson
GW Atkinson
1 year ago

All parties seeking election in Wales should be registered here and not elsewhere. Personally, I think all political parties in Wales should be seperate entities from London.

Steve Duggan
Steve Duggan
1 year ago

Eventually Welsh Labour will realise it not more devolution that is needed – it’s independence. They are just wasting their time as Westminster and in particular the Tories – will never give Wales enough devolution for us to successfully deliver us out of poverty

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
1 year ago

It would make a change not to live in a one party cadet state…or is it a coalition.

It pains me to think we have to ask Starmer’s permission for anything, if ever there was a man to shoot himself in the foot it’s Clark Kent…

hdavies15
hdavies15
1 year ago
Reply to  Mab Meirion

one party cadet state ? . Surely you mean a one party colony

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
1 year ago
Reply to  hdavies15

If you say so hd, sometimes I just feel like Moses must have done when he glimpsed the promised land beyond the turquoise-blue waters of the salt sea, knowing that it is not the will of God that I shall see an independent Cymru…with thanks to de la Mare and Deuteronomy 33 : 34 : 4

Brechdan Wncomunco
1 year ago
Reply to  hdavies15

Colony are there more English people in Wales than Welsh people in England. Remember the greatest Welsh speaking city was Liverpool Lerpwl prix Dinas Cymru an escape from the basted corrigendum.

Gareth
Gareth
1 year ago

I can imagine the reaction of Labour Westminster MP’s, a recent quote of ” I just wouldnt” comes to mind, as they contemplate looking more remote from how we are governed and their influence shrinks. Wait for the backlash ..

Brechdan Wncomunco
1 year ago

Welsh Labour is doing a fantastic job and is a blueprint for what Labour will do for the UK. Bring on the Geneal Election.

Brechdan Wncomunco
1 year ago

Welsh Labour is Wales end of.

Cawr
Cawr
1 year ago

Praying the Tories win that to further break up the last of the empire.

Peter Cuthbert
Peter Cuthbert
1 year ago

Since the Labour Party may well be the next party of Government in Westminster, it surely seems sensibe to remind those in London that Cymru is on the road to independence. A step down that road is to have an independent labour Party in Cymru. After all, England has the Co-operative Party which works closely with English Labour, so why not Labour Cymru?

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