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Welsh minister ‘working rapidly’ to work out where power sits on banning conversion therapy

03 Apr 2022 3 minute read
Left, Hannah Blythyn. Right, LGBTQ flag.

A Welsh Government minister has said that they are “working rapidly” to work out what powers the Welsh Government has to ban conversion therapy.

Hannah Blythyn, the Deputy Minister for Social Partnership told Sunday Supplement that the impact the debate around banning the practice was having on people’s lives was “absolutely disgusting”.

She said that the Welsh Government would “take whatever action it is able to take” once it is able to investigate what powers it does have to ban conversion therapy.

Health is devolved to Wales, but not justice, so it is currently unclear whether they have the power to unilaterally ban conversion therapy.

“Is it that sort of question that it’s not quite clear where the power sits,” Hannah Blythyn said. “Yeah, so that’s why we need to do this, this very rapid piece of work now to really get a better understanding of where the power is.

“And what the levers we do have to legislate. Given everything we’ve heard in the last few days and the harmful impact that conversion therapy has on people, we really need to make sure that we explore every avenue we can and that we get this right as well.”

‘Betrayal’

On Thursday a government spokesperson had said the ban would be dropped and they would instead review ways to stop conversion therapy practices through existing law.

But a few hours later the UK Government said that the ban would feature in the next Queen’s Speech, but would not cover trans people.

Hannah Blythyn described the decision to u-turn on the issue after promising a ban in Wales and England as a “betrayal of trust”.

“I was surprised and appalled by the information that we saw at that point on Thursday afternoon,” she said. “I know that the Welsh Government and organisations representing the LGBTQ community engaged with this good faith with the UK Government.

“Not only is it a breach of trust, I think it’s very much a betrayal of the LGBT community.

“This is something that has been promised by the UK Government for a number of years and a number of occasions by more than one prime minister and the reason why it really is a betrayal of the LGBT community.

“They made a very direct promise in their proposals that it would be universal and protect everyone wherever their sexual orientation and whether they are transgender or not, and this is clearly what they’re not proposing to do.”


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CJPh
CJPh
1 year ago

The right question is not being asked by either side here – it is not “How do we best protect the LGBT community” (a question too subjective and utterly polluted by divisive ideologues on all sides), but rather “Exactly what is the definition of conversion therapy”. Too broad an interpretation may mask and even provide an incentive for some very shady behavior to suddenly be protected by law. Too narrow or selective a definition may allow for abuses or omission in another direction to take place. A Welsh-specific, wide-ranging study (with external expertise from a range of relevant fields –… Read more »

hdavies15
hdavies15
1 year ago
Reply to  CJPh

You are likely to be far too rational for a lot of the ideologically driven “stake holders” in this field and indeed many other fields. Our campaign for freedom remains under serious threat from all sorts of single issue or narrow interest groups whose mantra appears to be “our way or no way”. Why we need any kind of conversion therapy is beyond me. We are not dealing with thieves or violent people we are dealing with individuals with a wide range of “conditions”. There are gays, lesbians and trans folk who are quite content with where they are and… Read more »

CJPh
CJPh
1 year ago
Reply to  hdavies15

As much as I can agree we must allow the devil some advocacy here – the “right” (American-influenced ultra Conservatives) also try to play an apologia game for their weird camps and “pray the gay away” indoctrination. These practices run from morally dubious to clearly abusive, necessitating a legal intervention.

Tim
Tim
1 year ago
Reply to  CJPh

So-called ‘conversion therapy’ is a harmful pseudo-medical practice promoted by some religious groups. It refers to a range of practices which aim to convert LGBT+ people to their ‘correct’ identity.

All reputable health and psychological organisations consider the practice to be ineffective, unethical and harmful. The ‘therapy’ is usually promoted by religious organisations. ‘Conversion therapy’ does not include legitimate therapeutic options to assist people struggling with their gender identity or sexual orientation to live more comfortably.

CJPh
CJPh
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

By that definition (with case studies and relevant data, much of which I have seen), then the most egregious practices that have been shown to result in demonstrable harm should be outlawed. Shifting definitions, attempts to massage language to apply beyond the clearly defined harmful practice should be considered also. Considered and rejected.

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