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Welsh Tory leader under fire for claiming ‘Britain alone turned the tide against Nazi Germany’

24 Jan 2022 3 minute read
Andrew RT Davies and Sir Winston Churchill

The leader of the Tories in the Senedd has come under fire for claiming that “Britain alone turned the tide against Nazi Germany”.

Andrew RT Davies, who made the claim while paying tribute to wartime Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, on the anniversary of his death, has been accused of ‘rewriting history”.

Churchill led Britain during World War Two, which lasted from 1939 to 1945, and was by far the was by far the deadliest conflict in human history, resulting in what has been estimated to be 70 to 85 million fatalities.

The Axis powers, led by Nazi Germany, the Empire of Japan, and Fascist Italy, were defeated by a international coalition of 26 nations called the Allies, which included Britain, as well as the United States, the Soviet Union, and China as its principal members.

The UK was also hugely reliant on assistance from soldiers from across the British Empire and Commonwealth.

According to figures from the Russian government, the Soviet Union had the highest number of fatalities at 26.6 million.

The journalist Andrew Scott, who writes under the name Otto English, said: “Winston Churchill provided good leadership of Britain in WW2. To suggest that ‘he’ or ‘Britain’ alone turned the tide, or that European freedom is owed to him- is Buster Gonadian sized cojones.”

Professor Mathias Eberl said: “You will be amazed when you hear about the Red Army and what happened in Stalingrad.”

Dave Jones said: “This rewriting of history will certainly come as news to the rest of the world.”

John Ashton said: “How to say you don’t know anything about history without actually saying you don’t know anything about history.”

‘Culture war’

Alexander Phillips said: “I fear this is what happens when the desire of Andrew’s staff to be at the forefront of the ‘culture war’ trumps their desire to honour Churchill.

“It’s just sad. Not only for the display of historical ignorance, but also for the insult to Churchill’s actual wartime achievements.”

Vikki Guy said: “I think the US, Russia, other Allied forces, Commonwealth soldiers and probably a few more would have pretty valid argument against your ‘Britain alone’ statement. This is basic GCSE level history!”

Ex-Foreign Office adviser David Clark said: “UK is crippled by its addiction to a fantasy version of past. This is where all the exceptionalist ‘they need us more than we need them’ nonsense comes from.”


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Ed Jones
Ed Jones
2 years ago

Am amazed ARTD could write such abject nonsense whilst ejaculating – impressive…

Valerie Matthews
Valerie Matthews
2 years ago

I remember our prospects as being poor, until USA and Russia joined forces with us, and European undercover groups. Was said at the time until Hitler opened the ‘Russian Front’ thus dividing his troops, we were losing.

John
John
2 years ago

Mor dwp a slej!

Twpsin
Twpsin
2 years ago
Reply to  John

Sleep stop using borrowed words stick to Welsh.

Twpsin
Twpsin
2 years ago
Reply to  Twpsin

Stop.

Paul Hoskins
Paul Hoskins
2 years ago

It is not called World War 2 for nothing. He overlooks the Indian, Canadian, Australian, South African, New Zealand, Jamaican and of course the Netherlands and Polish contribution. Considerably later of course the American and Russian effort which really turned the tide. ARTD’s grasp of history is of a typically English nationalistic nature and blinkered!

hdavies15
hdavies15
2 years ago
Reply to  Paul Hoskins

grasp ? FFS he doesn’t even make finger tip contact ! His cumulative displays of ignorance and absurdity furnish ample evidence to the electorate that he should be removed at the next election.

Roskell Kelvin
Roskell Kelvin
2 years ago
Reply to  Paul Hoskins

The man is a bloated epitome of a Tory fat cat,
What you get from a pig – is a grunt!

Chwe ceiniog
Chwe ceiniog
2 years ago
Reply to  Paul Hoskins

There is no doubt though that Britain stood alone. A fact that Nats seem to find offensive.

Barry Pandy
Barry Pandy
2 years ago
Reply to  Chwe ceiniog

For a start Britain did not ‘stand alone’. Even before the USSR and the USA entered the war Britain had the resources of the British Empire including India (which at the time included Pakistan and Bangladesh), Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa plus of course all of the other colonies of Africa, Asia and the Caribbean. The British Empire provided armaments (particularly from Canada), manpower, raw materials and food in quantities that Germany could not get – hence the attempt to starve Britain into surrender with the U-boat blockade. In addition there were also the free armies e.g. the Free… Read more »

Tafarn y gareg
Tafarn y gareg
2 years ago
Reply to  Barry Pandy

In Europe Britain stood alone. Gwynfor stood for no one. Forget empire Swansea, Coventry took the brunt. Nats want to revise the truth.

Gareth
Gareth
2 years ago

What’s his name, has no shame at all. the level he will stoop to look good to his masters in London has no limits. The man must know the sacrifice made by, not only Europeans, but also all the other nations, and yet refuses to acknowledge this in order to promote British exceptionalism in the London press. How sad he feels the need to do this.

Hogyn y Gogledd
Hogyn y Gogledd
2 years ago

If it hadn’t been for Biggles, we’d all be speaking German.

Glen
Glen
2 years ago

The irony is that English is in fact a Germanic language.

Last edited 2 years ago by Glen
Siarl
Siarl
2 years ago
Reply to  Glen

Germanic not German. Germanic languages include Swedish, Norse, Danish, Dutch, Icelandic, Scots, German, Faroese and English.
RTD is still a t*t though

Malcolmrj
Malcolmrj
2 years ago

It’s a wonder that he didn’t say England stands alone against Germany like the English always said in times gonby and in the old filmes

Quornby
Quornby
2 years ago
Reply to  Malcolmrj

Yes Malcolm… My Welsh grandfather saw actual. combat and then spent a lifetime hearing how England won the war

Charles Stephenson
Charles Stephenson
2 years ago

Given their apparent adoration of Churchill, then it’s a shame these people don’t actually study him. To quote the then Prime Minister himself: ‘I shall take occasion to repeat to-morrow in the House of Commons what I have said before, that it is the Russian Army that tore the guts out of the German military machine . . .’ Winston Churchill to Marshal Stalin, 27 September 1944. He was quite correct: ‘Total Wehrmacht losses to 30 April 1945 amounted to 11,135,500 including 6,035,000 wounded. Of these, almost 9,000,000 fell in the East. German armed forces’ losses to war’s end numbered… Read more »

Glen
Glen
2 years ago

I recently watched an old war film where England not Britain or anyone else were saving Europe from the Nazis. Must be where RT got his info from.

2 world wars and 1 world cup as the song goes.

Ernie The Smallholder
Ernie The Smallholder
2 years ago

To quote the then Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill himself:
‘I shall take occasion to repeat to-morrow in the House of Commons what I have said before, that it is the Russian Army that tore the guts out of the German military machine . . .’
Winston Churchill to Marshal Stalin, 27 September 1944.

Grayham Jones
2 years ago

Kick this idiot out of wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Mr Williams
Mr Williams
2 years ago

What a slap in the face to USA, USSR, France, Poland, Belgium, Australia, etc. etc. etc.

Silly thing to say Andrew RT Davies!

Marc
Marc
2 years ago

Andrew RT Davies is an embarrassment to Wales and Welsh politics a figure of fun at home and a nobody to his English masters, yet he continues grovelling to the Tory toffs in the hope of a pat on the head and dog biscuit

Mark
Mark
2 years ago

It’s really embarrassing having such ignorant and clearly uneducated idiots representing us in the Senedd, the people of Wales deserve much much better.

Dafydd
Dafydd
2 years ago

I was immensly proud of my grandfathers involvement in WW2 and he told me himself that it was the immense sacrifices fo the Russians (26 million + dead) and the huge material contribution of the USA that ‘won’ the war. Its true to say that victory in the Battle of Britain (which prevented a German invasion) ensured that the Americans had a base from which to launch D Day… and that was a great help in delivering final victory. But, not wishing to denigrate the sacrifices of British servicemen and women, there is no way Britain on its own could… Read more »

Quornby
Quornby
2 years ago

The relatives of the 20 million Soviet dead might beg to differ ARTD you moron.

Rhosddu
Rhosddu
2 years ago

When Churchill secured Roosevelt’s commitment to enter the war, the next morning he wrote in his diary “Last night I slept the sleep of the saved”. That’s the reality, and everyone in the UK acknowledges that, except, it seems, for one Member of the Senedd.

Dewi Williams
Dewi Williams
2 years ago

ARTD is infected with this disease call endemic sentimental English nationalism disguised as British nationalism. It is peculiar to a breed known as Tories. I lived through the entire period of World 2 and I can I speak from first hand knowledge. We were completely incapable of “turning the tide against Nazi Germany” because we were on our knees and virtually had nothing left to offer in defence of ourselves. The Germans could have easily sorted us out if it wasn’t for the intervention of the Americans who came to our rescue. We would have lost the Battle of Britain… Read more »

Richard
Richard
2 years ago

Talk about seeking to
revise history – Wow 😮

thomas sheppard
thomas sheppard
2 years ago

If the german army had not invaded Russia in 1941; I doubt if britain would have been able to repel an invasion by Germany.

WilliamsG
WilliamsG
2 years ago

Today he is modelling a smart dark blue suit in this classic pose. Unfortunately he still speaks a load of rubbish !

Dai Rob
Dai Rob
2 years ago

What a muppet!!!

Stephen Owen
Stephen Owen
2 years ago

Shockingly ignorant and deluded, typical of British nationalists

Stephen Owen
Stephen Owen
2 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Owen

Even Churchill knew the British Empire (Britain itself never stood alone) needed the help of the USA from the start of the conflict. Moreover the USSR and many other countries were very important in winning the war

Steve Duggan
Steve Duggan
2 years ago

The delusions run deep in the ideologically driven Tory party.

Keith Gogarth
Keith Gogarth
2 years ago

He need a to read something more informative than the Sun and Daily Mail

Iain Graham
Iain Graham
2 years ago

This represents why the rest of the world now laugh at the ‘UK’ …

Speaking from Australia 🇦🇺 this comment by this person is offensive

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