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Devolution at stake as Reform plans a Senedd challenge

18 Jul 2024 6 minute read
Nigel Farage in Merthyr Tydfil – Image: Ben Birchall

Jonathan Edwards

The demise of Vaughan Gething as First Minister has seemed inevitable for a while.

I offer no comment on whether his downfall was based on naivety or something more sinister, but it seems to me that accepting a donation of £200,000 in a Welsh political context was always going to lead to trouble.

Welsh politics has thankfully up to now avoided the sullied reputation of Westminster – it is sad that big money is starting to find its way into our politics. Most members of the public cannot fathom such sums of money and are understandably sceptical about why someone would give such enormous sums to a politician or a political party out of the goodness of their own heart.

Plaid Cymru understandably called for a snap election to end the chaos of revolving First Ministers, employing a tactic very successfully employed by Labour in Westminster as the Tories burned through Prime Ministers faster than a fuse on a stick of dynamite.

The difference being that Labour was 20 points ahead in the polls and heading for a landslide. The latest YouGov poll puts Plaid Cymru only on 14 seats, with Labour projected to win nearly double that number, based on the current voting system and boundaries.

Gimmick

Regardless, it’s a good gimmick and indicates a growing self-confidence within Plaid Cymru after the general election. Politics is all about the Big Mo – momentum is everything.

Generating momentum is the key to all electoral success. The question which now arises for Plaid is, can it build from here and mount a serious challenge in 2026?

With momentum comes expectation. With expectation comes pressure. Can it match what the SNP achieved in 2007? Their strategy based on a message of ‘It’s Time’ is the obvious one for Plaid to follow.

The SNP had some serious operators in its ranks back then. We are about to find out if Plaid Cymru has a group of individuals that can capture a nation as the SNP did nearly two decades ago.

Plaid can hardly hope for a more favourable set of circumstances.

To be perfectly frank, Labour in the Senedd look out on their feet. They have been in government for a quarter of a century and look devoid of a sense of purpose and direction.

Unpopular

By 2026 the Labour UK Government will also be deeply unpopular if it fails to raise people’s living standards. I see nothing in its economic policy or legislative programme which is likely to achieve that aim, which seems totally reliant on external global factors to generate economic growth.

Even if the economy picks up on the coattails of an improved global outlook, the key political consideration is whether normal people feel more financially comfortable as opposed to abstract GDP figures.

The problem for Plaid is that they aren’t the only insurgent force in Welsh politics.

If the general election results are anything to go by, the real story in 2026 could be the emergence of Reform as a Senedd force. Across the south Wales Valleys and Swansea they came second and can credibly claim to be the real opposition to Labour in the most populous parts of our country.

They also have a base in the rest of the country.

Worst case scenario

The Senedd political establishment should be operating on a worst case scenario basis that Reform, aided by the new closed list voting system, easily finds itself as the official opposition to Labour following the next Senedd election.

A party that is openly hostile to devolution in that position would drastically change the political dynamic in Wales.

If we move forward another four years in that scenario to 2030, with a Labour-led Welsh Government on life support and a second term Labour UK Government in a similar state, let’s just say that all of a sudden we could face an election where the main challenger for supremacy will be standing on an abolish the Senedd ticket.

Now is no time for complacency therefore for those of us who want to see our country develop as a political nation.

I see senior Welsh politicians calling for a war on social media against the populist right. To be perfectly frank, a keyboard war is exactly what they seek.

Reform can only be tackled if the political establishment improves living standards and improves public services. On both fronts I am deeply concerned.

If we just briefly touch on health, as an MP I received weekly emails from constituents raging that they couldn’t get an appointment to see their GP, couldn’t find a dentist, or were stuck on never-ending hospital waiting lists.

A cursory look at the Welsh Government’s Budget indicates how health is taking an ever-greater portion of expenditure with no discernible improvement in outcomes and every other public service area is being starved of investment. The situation is completely unsustainable.

Political stars

While the political stars are aligning for Plaid Cymru, they are also aligning for the populist right.

Taking chunks out of the Labour governments in Cardiff and London is obviously likely to be easy in the months and years ahead, but in doing so the established opposition parties in Wales will also be feeding the populist right.

There is an urgent onus therefore on Plaid Cymru, the Conservative Party and the Liberal Democrats to outline an alternative positive vision for a Welsh Government in the lead-up to 2026.

My fear is that those respective parties are so institutionally used to opposition that they lack the intellectual capacity to meet the opportunities and challenges they now face.

For Plaid Cymru in particular, as it approaches its centenary celebrations, it is a matter of make or break. At stake is not just its own electoral fortunes but the existence of the Welsh political institutions which define us as a nation.

Can it cope with the pressure cooker it now finds itself in?

Jonathan Edwards is the former MP for Carmarthen East and Dinefwr


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westisbest
westisbest
5 months ago

I see large gains for Plaid & Reform. One party in government for so long is no good for any country who practise democracy

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
5 months ago

The Conservatives, Labour, yes Labour, Ukip, True Wales , Brexit party have in the past attempted to either stop devolution or campaign to abolish our then Welsh Assembly and I can see Reform UK emboldened by their success in England try to do the same to our Senedd Cymru. Yes, the threat from any party whose sole purpose is to disrupt rather than rule is real. Former leader of Ukip, Brexit party and now Reform UK Nigel Farage caused irreparable damage with Brexit and didn’t have a care in the world for those affected being a millionaire who thinks he’s… Read more »

Neil Anderson
Neil Anderson
5 months ago
Reply to  Y Cymro

Yes, Y Cymro… Cymru will always be vulnerable while it relies on devolution. There is no power in that. Without independence, there is insufficient power to improve the life chances of all of us in Cymru. Let’s stop wasting time, let’s escape the Westminster cage and build our own country and society. Reform are a danger to us all. As the Tories showed, they are too. Starmer Labour has nothing to offer and will offer nothing. Indy Labour holds the key – Plaid will open the door. With the imagination, the ideals and the competence we have in Cymru, we… Read more »

SundanceKid
SundanceKid
5 months ago
Reply to  Neil Anderson

“Indy” Labour does not exist. We have seen in the past few weeks how Labour MSs were more than happy to put party before country by backing Gething. Only in the last few days have they turned on him – probably because they have finally seen the polls and they are worried about their seats. This is a party that has become complacent, entitled and out of touch. Just like we are experiencing a revolution on the right, we desperately need one on the left and a tired, staid Labour party who have presided over 25 years of abject failure,… Read more »

Ernie The Smallholder
Ernie The Smallholder
5 months ago
Reply to  Neil Anderson

Yes, Our people must not appease the UK colonialists. It is time that we stand our ground. England is a neighbouring country to Cymru; We in Cymru, Scotland and Ireland must naturally have the rights of being independent countries within these isles. And so does England. We share our European heritage but have our own version of culture. Appeasement to the UK regime operating out of London is dangerous for the wellbeing of our country. An example lesson: If the Ukraine had left the USSR at the same time as the other Baltic states the Ukraine would be in the… Read more »

Last edited 5 months ago by Ernie The Smallholder
Garycymru
Garycymru
5 months ago

Any kind of idea to remove devolution should be classed as a hate crime.
Reform and their vile racism and hatred have no place in Wales.

Riki
Riki
5 months ago
Reply to  Garycymru

Well, when you dispossess a people, you can’t allow them a voice in order to challenge the theft of their voice and identity. The Anglo aim for Wales has always been to not only dispossess Britain from the Britons but to not let those Britons in response to form a country on said island. Wales has always been a major thorn in English hegemony! Because of its origins. As long as it exists, English authority over Britain can be challenged all the way back to antiquity. And Wales is a constant reminder that they are British by adoption as opposed… Read more »

Padi Phillips
Padi Phillips
5 months ago
Reply to  Riki

Blood & Soil politics is every bit as toxic as anything peddled by Reform UK. I suggest going away and getting a perspective rather than coming out with deluded rubbish.

GaryCymru
GaryCymru
5 months ago
Reply to  Padi Phillips

It’s not blood and soil politics. When you try to remove a countries right to self governance, that in itself is a threat to the country and its people – colour of rosette or “blood and soil” are irrelevant.
If you are incapable of responding without insults, I’d appreciate it if you please don’t reply.

Padi Phillips
Padi Phillips
4 months ago
Reply to  GaryCymru

How could something that never existed be removed in the first place? I know there are those quaint individuals who look to the ‘golden age’ of medieval Wales where the country was usually ruled as a collection of squabbling fiefdoms occasionally becoming under one ruler for a lifetime before returning to type. They were undoubtedly Welsh, but clearly had no understanding of the modern concept of nationhood, which was just becoming understood when Glyndwr revolted. However, to picture Wales as some kind of nirvana would soon be dispelled should you time-travel back to that time, where life for ordinary people,… Read more »

NOT Grayham Jones
NOT Grayham Jones
5 months ago
Reply to  Padi Phillips

Padi you are completely right in what you say. Riki fails to recognise due to his blindness bourne out of hatred of “anglos” that the majority of people who live in Wales are not his beloved Britons anymore but people from other countries mostly England or have family roots in England. Riki and others can call Reform as extremist but i suggest Plaid look at some of their own who probably are just as extreme.

Padi Phillips
Padi Phillips
4 months ago

I agree, and thank you for your kind comments. Indeed, there is a small, but hard core of ‘Welsh Nationalists’ who would, but for the Britishness of Reform, feel very much at home in that party. I doubt that many are members, or even supporters of Plaid Cymru, as most of them will regard Plaid as having ‘sold out’. If they spouted the nonsense often seen on this website in Plaid meetings they’d very soon be shown the door. Gwlad, however, is likely to have a major problem with this type, given that of the founders, one runs a blog… Read more »

Crom
Crom
5 months ago
Reply to  Garycymru

Speaking of vile hatred – are you aware of the vile hatred contained in your comment?
I’m not a Reform voter, but if they get elected they will have a mandate to govern, despite arrogant minds like yours trying to assert that your way is the only way.

Riki
Riki
5 months ago

This is Wales – our people would sooner vote in the anti-Christ than anyone who would put this country first. It all comes down to perceptions, and that being the most important thing of the “Welsh”. They won’t vote for anything or anyone that upsets our neighbours to the east! You only have to look at how easily they fall for the “too small and poor to survive” narrative, despite the fact that several of the richest per capita nations on earth all have populations under 10 million.

Ernie The Smallholder
Ernie The Smallholder
5 months ago
Reply to  Riki

Yes, The Ukraine tried to appease their neighbours to the East.
It didn’t work out well for them.

Nicholas Alderton
Nicholas Alderton
5 months ago

In the short term, Westminster and the Senedd should seek to further entrench in law that the Senedd cannot be abolished. If Labour are serious about Devolution and that we have a Parliament because we are a nation, not a city mayorality, then they need to protect it.
In the long-term, we need independence.

Duke Iron
Duke Iron
5 months ago

We need a written constitution that a supermajority of MPs must agree to change.

SundanceKid
SundanceKid
5 months ago

But they won’t! That’s another reason why we need more parties on the left to become a viable alternative to Labour.

Duke Iron
Duke Iron
5 months ago

If the Welsh Cons were wiped out and replaced by Reformers I don’t think anyone would notice.

Mr Williams
Mr Williams
5 months ago

Labour needs to legislate to ensure that the Senedd cannot be abolished. It’s no good pretending that they will be in power forever, like they did in the early 2000s (remember Peter Hain’s very patronising mantra: “its Labour in Westminster, Labour in Wales, working together for the people of Wales”?). Surely the lessons of 13 years of Tory rule, which the majority of Wales did not vote for, have to be acted upon now. Imagine a situation where Reform, propping up a Tory minority government, had abolition of the Senedd as a key demand? We should be very worried –… Read more »

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Crom
Crom
5 months ago
Reply to  Mr Williams

Erm – the majority of people in Wales did not vote Labour either.

Mr Williams
Mr Williams
5 months ago
Reply to  Crom

I didn’t say they did.

includemeout
includemeout
5 months ago

“I see senior Welsh politicians calling for a war on social media against the populist right.” Great. That’s what we need to restore decency and intelligent debate to politics: more people being offended on social media. I despair of our current crop of politicians. I’m not sure if they have simply given up on ever changing anything in the real world and have adopted performative anger as a substitute, or if they genuinely believe that if they say “racism is unacceptable” often enough, it will somehow go away. Either way, the result is the same. Somehow we’ve created a culture… Read more »

Gaynor
Gaynor
5 months ago
Reply to  includemeout

That is the point of his argument. Actions to solve or combat the real problems that face us are required not performative nonsense

Crwtyn Cemais
Crwtyn Cemais
5 months ago

Dyna yn union fy ofnau i hefyd ~ Those are exactly my fears too

TJ Palmer
TJ Palmer
5 months ago

Unfortunately the only way to win over the non-voters and floaters is to compete on I’m A Celebrity or Strictly. I heard the same people saying “I like Farage” that were bleating “I like Boris” last time.
Can Rhun dance do you think?

Last edited 5 months ago by TJ Palmer
Swn Y Mor
Swn Y Mor
5 months ago

To be brief the rise of Reform in Wales should have been the real story this election. A party barely five years old getting more votes than a party approaching its centenary. Concerning Plaid I see no chance of them doing a SNP and capturing the nation. Sadly Mr Edwards does not mention the I word when explaining how to tackle Reform. ‘My fear is that those respective parties are so institutionally used to opposition that they lack the intellectual capacity to meet the opportunities and challenges they now face’. This is an excellent point although a would add voter… Read more »

karl
karl
5 months ago

Time serious politics, exposed the refrom crap. They are the UK version of the Trump cancer. Improve lives and they gain little support. But our poltics is arrogant, thats how brecshit happened. Now ideally indy would get us shot of such evil

Shân Morgain
Shân Morgain
5 months ago

An unnecessarily pessimistic article, presumably trying to pump up hopes for Plaid. No harm in supporting Plaid but I don’t like dishonest propaganda. Welsh Labour did well under Drakey. The welsh NHS for example is strained but heaps better than its English version. Gething is/ was a blot flung in by Starmer. But now that’s being cleared thanks to this lovely news organisation, a cleaner leader has a chance of continuing where Drakey left it. To more devo, and federation.

Rob
Rob
5 months ago

I would imagine that by the 2030s any referendum to abolish the Senedd would be unwinnable. By then the institution would have been around for 40 years, the overwhelming majority wouldn’t know Wales without the Senedd. Only the over 50s would remember the pre-devolution days. That being said I do worry about the rise of Reform in Wales. Many on the nationalist side make the false assumption that being anti-tory equates to being left-wing, It doesn’t. Wales is anti-tory because the tories don’t care about Wales or communities within Wales. Labour party pundits also make similar assumptions towards Millenials and… Read more »

Gaynor
Gaynor
5 months ago
Reply to  Rob

YesCymru does have a Youtube page which features old and new podcasts f and past videos.

Mark
Mark
4 months ago

Lots of comments from people worried about devolution being reversed. Zero comments from anyone pointing to any practical benefit that has come from devolution. Many people like the concept of devolution, but the devolved administration has done nothing to prevent the decline of Welsh health, education, industry, agriculture and travel infrastructure. All of these are worse in Wales than in England, even though Wales has a higher per capita budget to spend. Surely the best way to prevent an anti-devolution party getting votes is to show the electorate the benefits of devolution. Examples of this are few and far between,… Read more »

Rhosddu
Rhosddu
4 months ago
Reply to  Mark

You’re right in pointing out that the potential offered by devolution hasn’t been maximised by successive Welsh Governments. But bear in mind that the restrictions imposed on devolution limit the ability of the WG to innovate much in the way of pro-Wales policy.

Mark
Mark
4 months ago
Reply to  Rhosddu

The Welsh Government has complete power over the NHS and education system. Both have gone steadily backwards. Nobody is to blame for this apart from Welsh Labour and those who repeatedly vote for them.

Margaret Helen Parish
Margaret Helen Parish
4 months ago

REFORM are not for abolishing the Senedd, and I defy anyone to produce the evidence. Plaid are in turmoil with more independence supporters in other groups and only feted in their traditional areas.
Labour will has always ruin the country…see Wales supported by santa’s little helpers Plaid.
REFORM will outperform Labour in 2026 mark my words!!!

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