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Is it time for Plaid Cymru to prepare for power in 2026 – and will Senedd Reform prove to be Labour’s undoing?

13 Oct 2024 7 minute read
Plaid Cymru Leader Rhun ap Iorwerth – Photo Matthew Horwood

Martin Shipton

For as long as I’ve been writing about Plaid Cymru, the party has gone through periods when it has convinced itself that a spectacular victory will be delivered at the next election.

Part of this stems from the rhetorical skills of some of its leading politicians.

Adam Price, at his oratorical best, is able to whip up an audience already committed to the independence cause into a state that approaches a frenzy. He can convince waverers that Welsh “freedom” is just around the corner. For those who don’t know, he developed the ability to do this as a teenage lay preacher for the Plymouth Brethren in his home county of Carmarthenshire.

I can testify to the fact that it’s not all a big act. Adam Price genuinely believes that his predictions about the party’s imminent success are accurate.

I remember having a phone chat with him in 2016, when he was standing for the then National Assembly for the first time. He was determined to impress upon me that the outcome of the election would result in his predecessor as Plaid leader, Leanne Wood, being elected as First Minister. His emphatically enunciated parting words to me were: “Leanne WILL be the First Minister, you know!” I wasn’t convinced at the time and, as things turned out, I was right not to be.

Straight talker

Plaid has a new leader now in Rhun ap Iorwerth. He’s more of a straight talker than an orator, and he’s usually characterised as a pragmatist and a moderate. But that hasn’t stopped him from also making grand claims about the potential for Plaid to do very well at the next election in 2026.

In his party conference speech, he almost used the well-worn Lib Dem line “Go home and prepare for government”.

The strange thing is that, on this occasion, he may not be deluding himself or others.

Welsh politics is a lot more fluid than it was. In 2026 the likelihood is that Labour, in power in both governments, will be unpopular.

The introduction of a new electoral system, where people will vote for party “closed lists” rather than individuals, and where all the seats will be allocated on a proportional basis, will create a new dynamic.

Every vote will count

Unlike with first-past-the-post elections, voters will no longer have to engage in tactical voting to ensure a party they don’t like doesn’t get elected. They can rest assured that every vote will count, and that by putting their cross against the party they really want to support, their vote will not be wasted.

This will provide Plaid Cymru with a huge opportunity to capitalise on Labour’s likely unpopularity.

In past elections, Labour candidates in marginal seats have invariably appealed to supporters of other progressive parties, including Plaid, to lend them their vote “just on this occasion” to stop the Tories taking the seat.

The situation will, however, be complicated by the challenge of Reform UK, an insurgent and populist right-wing party built on the personality and perceived charisma of Nigel Farage, as well as messages sent to those considered potential supporters on Facebook.

Plaid could easily find itself in competition with Reform for the same disaffected voters.

Llanelli

In the first National Assembly election in 1999, Plaid picked up seats regarded as solid Labour like Islwyn, Llanelli and Rhondda. In July’s general election, all three seats – now expanded because of the reduction in the number of Welsh MPs from 40 to 32 – were won by Labour, but with Reform in second place. In Llanelli, a seat won at devolved level twice by Plaid Cymru, the Reform candidate was only around 1,500 votes behind Labour’s long-serving Labour MP Dame Nia Griffith.

It seems likely that in quite a few of the 16 new super-constituencies in which the 2026 Senedd election will be fought, many voters will have supported both Plaid and Reform in the past, and will weigh up which deserves their vote the next time.

Plaid Cymru, as John Osmond’s newly published book on the Co-operation Agreement between Labour and Plaid that lasted two and a half years, is good at devising policy. Its challenge is to come up with eye-catching ideas that voters believe it’s worth investing their support in.

Reform has policies too, but mostly they are designed to appeal to people’s feelings of negativity towards distinct sections of the community like migrants and benefit claimants – never bankers or investors who engage in tax avoidance schemes.

Identity

In the specifically Welsh context, they will latch on to issues like the 20mph default speed limit, having gauged that public opposition is strong. So while Plaid Cymru will offer the opportunity to vote for nation-building policies, Reform will seek to appeal to voters for whom the idea of Welshness is incidental to their identity.

There’s every likelihood that Reform will win a seat in each of the 16 super-constituencies in 2026. Even so, and despite the fact that many people in Wales have already demonstrated that they are prepared to vote for what is, in essence, an English nationalist party, the possibility remains that Labour could cede its position as the leading party in Wales to Plaid Cymru.

‘Split’

John Osmond, who unlike his former boss Adam Price, for whom he worked as a special adviser, is not prone to making rash predictions, told me during a conversation we had about his book that he remains relatively optimistic: “The right wing in UK politics, and Welsh politics too, is strong – but it’s split. That’s the great thing – it’s split between the Tories and Reform. That’s why Labour did so well in the general election that’s just gone, especially in Wales. They didn’t win all the seats in Wales because of their own vote, which had declined. They won because the right split.

“I think that will happen in 2026. The polling at the moment shows that roughly Labour and Plaid are level pegging in the mid-20s, in terms of percentages, and Reform and the Tories are level pegging on 15% or 16% each. That points to the fact that no party is going to get near a majority. So some kind of cross-party collaboration is going to be required. And the only option, as far as I can see, is going to be collaboration between Labour and Plaid.

“The question then is, on what terms? And then it depends on the numbers. So it’s whether Labour is the lead party or Plaid Cymru is the lead party. If Labour turns out to be ahead, Plaid Cymru will be closer to Labour than it was in 2021, soi therefore you’re up for a possibility of a coalition, or a reiteration of the Co-operation Agreement.

“If the two parties are very close, you could look at an Irish situation, where we have the First Minister for one half of the term and Labour for the other half. That might be difficult for Labour to swallow, by the way.

“On the other hand, if Plaid Cymru is ahead of the Labour Party, I think Labour will be very reluctant to go into a coalition with a Plaid First Minister. So Plaid may be forced into leading a minority government, which would be very difficult indeed. Maybe they would need to contemplate some kind of Co-Operation Agreement with the Labour Party, but whether Labour would be willing is another matter.”

When Labour backed the closed list electoral system for the Senedd, it thought it would help entrench it in power for many more years. Ironically, it could prove their undoing.


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J Jones
J Jones
2 days ago

Claiming success is all about electoral victory sums up the delusional self serving politicians we have today, it was the same with Drakeford claiming Welsh Labour were the most successful party internationally, despite the fact that the governance it provided was an abject failure.

Frank
Frank
2 days ago

Too many people in Cymru have been conditioned and converted over generations to the English way of thinking. They have lost all confidence and faith in themselves and are used to having their hand held by a country that wants Cymru to remain the underdog. If Plaid ever gained power and independence it would take several more generations for these people to let go of this midguiding hand they are so used to. Completely brainwashed!!!

Rob Pountney
Rob Pountney
2 days ago

Unlike with first-past-the-post elections, voters will no longer have to engage in tactical voting to ensure a party they don’t like doesn’t get elected. They can rest assured that every vote will count, and that by putting their cross against the party they really want to support, their vote will not be wasted.“…
Unless of course they want to support the Greens or LibDems, in which case, under this proposed dog’s breakfast of an ‘electoral system’ they are mostly completely stuffed…

Annibendod
Annibendod
2 days ago
Reply to  Rob Pountney

Plaid have stated that they will pursue STV. It will take 60% of the Senedd to put that through though.

Lyn E
Lyn E
2 days ago
Reply to  Annibendod

Plaid collaborated with Labour to impose closed lists.

CapM
CapM
2 days ago
Reply to  Lyn E

It was either closed lists or keep the current system.
Surely a pragmatist would understand what was the better/less bad option.

Lyn E
Lyn E
2 days ago
Reply to  CapM

As many analysts have observed, there were alternative ways of improving proportionality within an enlarged Senedd without closed lists.

CapM
CapM
2 days ago
Reply to  Lyn E

You don’t get a prize for stating the obvious.
Award yourself a prize if you accept the reality.

Change could only happen with a super majority that only Labour and Plaid together could achieve.
Labour insisted on PR with closed lists.
If Plaid had not agreed then Labour would have vetoed the change to the PR system and the increase in Senedd members.

This can only be difficult to understand if you don’t want to understand.

Lyn E
Lyn E
2 days ago
Reply to  CapM

As I said, ‘Plaid collaborated with Labour to impose closed lists’. Learn to take responsibility.

Annibendod
Annibendod
2 days ago
Reply to  Lyn E

Your framing. Your bias.

Lyn E
Lyn E
1 day ago
Reply to  Annibendod

Yes, I’m biased in favour of democratic accountability.

CapM
CapM
1 day ago
Reply to  Lyn E

“Learn to take responsibility.”
Responsible for the introduction of a PR system
Responsible for an increase in Senedd members Responsible for preventing the Laboutpartyinwales vetoing the above by collaborating with them on their insistence for closed lists.

Waving a placard doesn’t require compromise or pragmatism. The same can’t be said for real world politics.

Lyn E
Lyn E
1 day ago
Reply to  CapM

If Plaid Cymru wants to take credit for good things delivered though its deals with Welsh Labour, then it also has to share blame for the bad.

That’s real world politics.

CapM
CapM
1 day ago
Reply to  Lyn E

If it only took a placard to get us what we want I imagine that we’d both be happy.

Lyn E
Lyn E
1 day ago
Reply to  CapM

The issue is not the necessity for compromise but the refusal to take responsibility for its consequences.

CapM
CapM
13 hours ago
Reply to  Lyn E

As I said earlier – Plaid Cymru –

“Learn to take responsibility.” [you said]
Responsible for the introduction of a PR system
Responsible for an increase in Senedd members
Responsible for preventing the Laboutpartyinwales vetoing the above by collaborating with them on their insistence for closed lists.[I said]

You really do need to do sufficient drilling when you read something even if it’s just beyond the first sentence

Lyn E
Lyn E
10 hours ago
Reply to  CapM

It’s no good trying to evade responsibility for the whole package. You can’t pick and choose.

Ask the LibDems about the price they paid for agreeing to increased student fees as part of the coalition deal in 2010.

Will Plaid Cymru propose changing from closed lists in its 2026 manifesto?

Last edited 10 hours ago by Lyn E
Llyn
Llyn
2 days ago

The problem for Plaid is given the financial straight jacket any Welsh Gov has, when it comes to their manifesto, they can’t just promise more money for everything (something Plaid politicians love to do) but will have to come up with eye-catching reforms.

Another great article from Martin Shipton, but Reform is a “far-right” party. It may be difficult for everyone to accept Welsh voters supporting such a party, but it’s clearly a fact.

Mandi A
Mandi A
2 days ago
Reply to  Llyn

Amply demonstrated in the GE on Ynys Mon where Plaid unseated a popular Mrs Crosbie by a small majority only due to the split between Tory and Reform. The Plaid vote is static, the others are volatile and subject to external factors, one of which is a shifting demographic meaning that more people are able to “work from home”, make their second home their main address and avoid punitive council tax. A Plaid-Reform coalition driven by the hunger for power on both sides would be a gift for the journalists.

Annibendod
Annibendod
2 days ago
Reply to  Mandi A

Not static everywhere. In Llanelli the Cons vote almost entirely shifted to Reform. Labour’s vote dropped and the difference split between Plaid, Greens and Libs. Between the three, there were enough votes to unseat Nia Griffiths. We have seen Plaid pick up seats in the Valleys in the past. Talk to Leanne Wood about the Labour vote there. I have family who have voted Labour, Plaid and UKIP living there. The vote is not as static as we are led to believe. Labour’s vote is gradually being hollowed out.

Mandi A
Mandi A
2 days ago
Reply to  Annibendod

A few well-placed soup kitchens and Mr F will be Chancellor

Annibendod
Annibendod
2 days ago
Reply to  Mandi A

This is a concern. The Con vote is bigger in England and he could well wing a majority out of it.

CapM
CapM
2 days ago
Reply to  Mandi A

“A Plaid-Reform coalition driven by the hunger for power on both sides would be a gift for the journalists.”

On what planet are you imagining such a gift being bestowed?

hdavies15
hdavies15
2 days ago
Reply to  CapM

Now that might form the basis for a good comedy series on S4C with English version on BBC.

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
2 days ago
Reply to  Llyn

The upper classes, lawyers and clergy went to Oxford and the entrepreneurs took to the maritime/plantation services business, the biggest game in town, and everyone played it…
And the Quaker community got chased out…where did all the money and brains go…West…

Last edited 2 days ago by Mab Meirion
Daf
Daf
2 days ago

Something not being given enough recognition is how many young followers Reform have. I’m no Reform supporter, but it is clear that on social media, especially Tik Tok, where Reform are very active, a huge number of supporters are not the ‘gammon’ beloved by traditional news commentators – but the under 20s. If you don’t believe me, look for yourselves. 16 and 17 year olds will be able to vote in the next Senedd elections. A lot of them support Reform. There may be a Youthquake coming which is not the kind that Labour or Plaid hope for.

Jack
Jack
2 days ago
Reply to  Daf

Reform has many young voters – it matches the position of many populist parties in Europe.

Daf
Daf
2 days ago
Reply to  Jack

True. A lot of politicians, and political journalists, make the assumption that a younger cohort of voters will automatically swing left. That’s not what is happening.

Mandi A
Mandi A
2 days ago
Reply to  Daf

Hope Not Hate has done some very useful work on Youth Fascism across Europe including the UK. Read Joe Mulhall’s Drums in the Distance

Daf
Daf
2 days ago
Reply to  Mandi A

I think part of the problem is calling this ‘Youth Facism’, tbh. Hope not Hate still think they are fighting the BNP. Small groups like that do exist, and do have supporters – but the mainstream of Reform is a different phenomenon. I think a lot of in Wales (and elsewhere) has its roots in Brexit. Which the majority (a small majority) of people voted for.

Daf
Daf
2 days ago

I can see Reform picking up a lot of Welsh Tory voters. Welsh Cons just don’t look at all robust atm, and UK wide they are in disarray after a general election thrashing, and will be for some time to come. I think electoral ward changes, plus a haemorrhage of disappointed Tory voters to Reform – plus a large proportion of first time voters and under 20s voting Reform – could see Reform doing far better than many anticipate. And a proportional representation system will help usher them in. Personally I think that’s a very grim prospect, but it shouldn’t… Read more »

Annibendod
Annibendod
2 days ago
Reply to  Daf

I think the Conservative vote in Wales is Reform’s high tide mark. Labour appear to be heamorraging most of its votes to Plaid, Libs and Greens.

Last edited 2 days ago by Annibendod
hdavies15
hdavies15
2 days ago
Reply to  Daf

Labour maims itself by tinkering with the voting system. They will be shot in the foot by their own actions. Pity it can’t be more terminal.

Adrian
Adrian
2 days ago
Reply to  Daf

I could discuss policy issues at length but it doesn’t need to be that complicated. If, like me, you’re not prepared lend support to anyone stupid or deluded enough to believe that a man can become a woman then, in Wales, there really is only Reform.

Last edited 2 days ago by Adrian
Jack
Jack
2 days ago

PC wont win. PC is stuck in its Welsh speaking heartland and will never move out of it as the only distinct PC policies are Welsh language everything or the hallowed land of independence – ask Scottish voters about that idea! With the new multi member electorates also note that Reform will increase its numbers. Consider the 2024 General Election results – Labour 37%, PC 15%, LD 6.5%, Conservative 18%, Reform 17%, Green 5%. So, the Tories in the worst place for years got 18% and Reform – just starting – 17%. So, a minimum 35% and increasing. Labour may… Read more »

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
2 days ago
Reply to  Jack

New voters; if you are referring to the black clad fashion among the ‘young men’ in their end of days garb…

What is being taught in Dr Williams to create such a generation of clones…?

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
2 days ago
Reply to  Mab Meirion

It was good to see the Bob Owen book fair up and running again post Covid on Ynys Mon on Saturday,

A good chat brings out the old stories that must be told, if not written down…

It is obvious on here that much has been forgotten and an awful lot not learnt and every few decades we need more names/sacrifices on marble to king and country to tell us who they say we are…

Daf
Daf
2 days ago
Reply to  Jack

I agree. I don’t think many are aware of the percentage share of votes in the general election (which is a much better predictor of success in a proportional representation system, which will be what the next Senedd election is).

Annibendod
Annibendod
2 days ago
Reply to  Daf

The Senedd rarely follows UK elections. People demonstrably switch votes.

Daf
Daf
2 days ago
Reply to  Annibendod

I don’t think the Senedd vote will necessarily follow the General Election vote. But more people in Wales voted Reform than voted for Plaid (in the GE). And that was with Plaid winning its highest ever vote share in a GE. Reform were only just behind Welsh Cons. I don’t think this pattern will be replicated in a Senedd election – I think Reform, particularly in a PR system, with the Senedd’s electoral reforms, could do much better.

Annibendod
Annibendod
2 days ago
Reply to  Daf

They poll significantly lower for a Senedd election. Plaid significantly higher.

Daf
Daf
1 day ago
Reply to  Annibendod

I’m not aware of any polls canvassing widely enough to include those who are under voting age now, but will be able to vote in 2025. I’d be interested to see them if you can point me towards them. It’s also still the case, unfortunately, that even polling lower than the GE, while Plaid poll higher – proportional representation will still see Reform doing better than in the GE.

Dai Ponty
Dai Ponty
2 days ago

I now believe Plaid in 2026 will make a breakthrough the Tories have been kicked out Wales in the General Election and now we can see Labour treats Wales no different to the Tories by denying us money which they gave to Scotland and Northern Ireland for H S 2 and both parties saying its an English and Welsh railway H S 2 do they think we are stupid YOU CAN FOOL SOME OF THE PEOPLE SOME OF THE TIME BUT NOT ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME not forgeting taking the money from pensioners for heating allowence… Read more »

Chris Jones
Chris Jones
2 days ago

I was not ‘shocked’ that many ‘working class’ Cymru voted for BREXIT (I admit guiltily that my pencil did hover angrily over the voting slip) and I’m not surprised that (some of) those same people (some good buddies) are now saying (whispering?) to me ‘that Farage fellow talks alot of sense!‘. The thing is; people who are builders, tradesmen, farmers, installers, drivers (aka working class) and so on have had a huge boost in business and earning from the disappearance of similar imported ‘foreign’ workers. They don’t want them back. The constant complaint these days of the middle and upper… Read more »

Annibendod
Annibendod
2 days ago
Reply to  Chris Jones

“Plaid Cymru, on the other hand are still and will forever, irritatingly, be identified as being the party of ‘Welsh speakers’. ”

Only if we keep reinforcing this myth. I’d listen to what Leanne Wood has to say on that front personally.

Chris Jones
Chris Jones
2 days ago
Reply to  Annibendod

Well, yes of course. Listening to Leanne is always worthwhile – pity she doesn’t seem to have much of a ‘platform’ any more.

Annibendod
Annibendod
1 day ago
Reply to  Chris Jones

Hopefully she’ll be willing to be a candidate again.

Daf
Daf
1 day ago
Reply to  Chris Jones

The problem with Leanne Wood is that she seemed to follow the ‘Nicola Sturgeon’ path. She has nailed her flag to the mast of extremist transgender ideology, and that really doesn’t play well with the general voting public. As we see in Scotland.

John Ellis
John Ellis
2 days ago
Reply to  Annibendod

I’ve ‘up-ticked’ your post because on one level, of course, you’re absolutely right, and your citation of Leanne Wood is apt enough. But even so I think that there is at least some actual substance to what Chris Jones has said. In the 1970s I lived for come years in and around Newport, first actually in the town on the east side of the Usk estuary. Locals there (even the numerous descendants of south Staffordshire folk induced in the early 20th century to move there, because their employer had set up a new operation in Newport) definitely saw themselves as… Read more »

Chris Jones
Chris Jones
2 days ago
Reply to  John Ellis

I agree. Off topic abit. As a ‘marketing’ person, I’ve always thought that the Plaid logo is wrong – to me it’s a childish spirograph and yellow which is never a good colour to choose for a political party (yes, I know it’s supposed to represent the Welsh poppy). Imagery has enormous subliminal effects and if I was advising Plaid I would think on this. Expensive I know but doable.

John Ellis
John Ellis
1 day ago
Reply to  Chris Jones

I wasn’t aware of the notion that Plaid opted for yellow as the colour of the ‘Welsh poppy’ – though is it, actually, since some of ours are, and always have been, orange!

But I might chew over any possible significance around that point!

Annibendod
Annibendod
1 day ago
Reply to  John Ellis

Another thoughtful response from you John which I appreciate. Yes, there is substance but only in so far as the myth is believed. I grew up in a south east Wales town that anglicised in front of my eyes as I grew up. I remember the old Welsh speakers who made a big fuss of me in the Capel. I remember the Welsh mums and dads who didn’t speak Cymraeg referring to me as “one of the Welsh kids”. I cannot begin to explain the stupidity of that sort of “othering”. Yet it is there and that sadly is the… Read more »

Last edited 1 day ago by Annibendod
John Ellis
John Ellis
1 day ago
Reply to  Annibendod

‘I am personally fully on board with Cymdeithas’ proposal to move towards a fully Welsh Medium education system as soon as possible so that all Welsh children receive their cultural inheritance. Being bilingual is win-win.’ I couldn’t agree with you more on the principle of that; it’s one of the reasons why I set myself the task of learning Welsh once, as a Saes in my 20s, I decided that I was settling here. I’m still learning now – I can’t claim colloquial fluency – some local accents and colloquialisms still baffle me! – but I understand a great deal… Read more »

Last edited 1 day ago by John Ellis
CapM
CapM
2 days ago

The Senedd election results and turnout will depend a lot on how well the government informs and educates the electorate about the new system. Will the Labourpartyinwales do what’s required especially if polls indicate they will likely lose their grip on governing Cymru. I expect the LibDems, Greens and ReformUK to back the new system and the Tories to s**g it off until the reality of battling RefrormUK dawns on them. However in the run up to the election I can’t see supporters of those three parties self indulgently whinging and whining about the evil of closed lists. Which would… Read more »

Billy James
Billy James
2 days ago

Dim diolch.

Linda Jones
Linda Jones
4 minutes ago

I can only hope that Plaid pulls this off and wins the next election. They have a good chance I believe as Labour have lost credibility.

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