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‘It’s just banter’ is how it starts – and that’s the problem

30 Jan 2025 3 minute read
The ‘Just Don’t’ campaign launched to tackle inappropriate behaviour towards women and girls. Image: YouTube

Llinos Dafydd

Another day, another excuse. Another public figure makes a sexist joke, another wave of outrage, another round of “It was just banter, lighten up.”

But here’s the thing: it’s never just banter.

As a survivor of sexual violence, I know exactly where this kind of “harmless fun” leads. It starts in a room full of people laughing at a woman’s expense. It starts when a joke makes her shift uncomfortably in her seat, but she smiles anyway, because calling it out would make her the problem. It starts with someone saying something inappropriate and everyone brushing it off because, he didn’t mean any harm.

But when does it stop?

Punchlines

I was a teenager when I was raped. And I can tell you — no one ever calls themselves a rapist. They don’t see themselves as villains.

They grew up in a world where women’s bodies were punchlines, where jokes about sex and consent were shrugged off, where they were never taught that silence isn’t the same as permission.

Because the truth is, this kind of banter doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It exists in a culture where men still feel entitled to comment on women’s bodies, where “lads’ humour” still relies on making women uncomfortable, where women still have to weigh up whether calling it out is worth the backlash.

And I can already hear the defenders: It was just a joke. He didn’t mean it that way. Are we not allowed to say anything anymore?

Punching down

But here’s the thing — if the joke is only funny when it punches down, when it makes a woman feel small, when it reinforces the idea that her body is something to be discussed, rated, owned, then maybe it was never funny to begin with.

If your defence of a joke matters more than the woman on the receiving end, then you are part of the problem.

Normalising this kind of talk is dangerous. Not because every man who makes a sexist joke is a rapist — but because every rapist once believed that sexist jokes were harmless.

So the next time you hear “it’s just banter,” ask yourself — who’s actually laughing? And at whose expense?

Because if you’re defending it, if you’re shrugging it off, if you’re laughing along — then you’re not just part of the conversation.

You’re part of the culture that keeps women unsafe.

And that’s not funny.


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Evan Aled Bayton
Evan Aled Bayton
4 days ago

It’s not just women although it is commoner. I was groped by an older lady soon after I started work. She was very clever and came up behind me and slid her hand between my legs and squeezed. I managed not to lose my composure and carried on talking to the person I was facing but it was nasty.

Jeff
Jeff
3 days ago

The offences, rapes and violence are orders of magnitude the other way. The justice very slow, many cases are dropped because of the years to get to court. Blokes can play a great part in calling out blokes. That is the problem. I wonder how many blokes know other blokes that drug women in bars but think its just bantz. Think its a laugh.

Amir
Amir
4 days ago

Well said. I was not laughing.

John Davies
John Davies
4 days ago

“Banter” has long been understood as coded language that sanitisies the reality, which is bullying. Zero tolerance for such nonsense. Get downright rude and unpleasant in response! After all, they started it. If they can’t take it, they should not hand it out.

hdavies15
hdavies15
3 days ago
Reply to  John Davies

The loud slap is the best response when the offence happens in the workplace or related. I once witnessed a young lady respond to a “spot of touching” by dishing it out in front of the rest of us. I nearly wet myself watching the offender’s face turn purple through a mix of embarrassment and the effect of the slap.

John Davies
John Davies
3 days ago
Reply to  hdavies15

Nice one. When my good lady lived in London, she used to have trouble on tube trains. So in a clear and loud voice, she would say “Would the person groping my bottom please STOP?” Of course, on a crowded train they would find it impossible to retreat or to hide. “Banter” artists can only get away with it if they are allowed to, if nobody calls them out.

Merch o Wynedd
Merch o Wynedd
3 days ago

Excellent article. Some comments are on the side of “not all men” or “women do this too” which are comments that don’t address the violence against women and girls which are excuses in my opinion. Statistically, we all know a rapist – they don’t go around with marks on their foreheads – and so they appear to be nice “normal” men, but they’re not. One thing that women need is for men to call out men’s sexually inappropriate behaviour towards women. But hardly any of them ever do. Cause it’s just banter isn’t it. Being a lad. Face up to… Read more »

Marisol Evans
Marisol Evans
2 days ago
Reply to  Merch o Wynedd

This is true. “But I don’t do it” is not an excuse if you see it and say nothing.
That kind of man does not listen to women. He listens to peer pressure form other men.
So if you really are opposed to bullying behaviour against women, or against anyone else, then saddle up guys. Walk the walk

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