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Plaid Cymru’s new crisis over representation at Westminster

03 Jun 2023 7 minute read
Rhun ap Iorwerth

Martin Shipton

The decision of Rhun ap Iorwerth to stand for the Plaid Cymru leadership contains both positives and negatives for the party.

Other potential candidates still have nearly two weeks to make up their minds before nominations close, but so far no-one else has shown any appetite for standing. This isn’t normal. The natural state of things is for political parties to be full of ambitious politicians who have convinced themselves that they are destined to lead.

In the circumstances, however, there are but two credible scenarios. Either Mr ap Iorwerth will be elected unopposed or an unfancied MS will be persuaded to put their name forward simply to ensure there’s a contest. Realistically, therefore, it’s pretty much a racing certainty that the Ynys Mon MS will become Plaid’s new leader.

For most in the party this will be welcomed as an opportunity to consign to history a torrid interlude during which public attention was focussed on unacceptable behaviour within Plaid’s inner circle rather than the ultimate prize of an independent Wales.

Mr ap Iorwerth has been a solid performer in the decade since he joined the Senedd, and before that was well known as a prominent political correspondent. Not all journalists are able to make a successful transition to the world of elected politics, but he has been a successful communicator in both fields.

It’s fair to see him as a “classic” Plaid politician, and for those who would like to see the party concentrate on its core mission to persuade a majority of voters to back independence, rather than deviating into contentious ideological areas that aren’t specifically Wales-oriented, there will be support for an ap Iorwerth leadership.

Downside

There is, however, a potential downside too. Becoming the leader would force him to relinquish his role as Plaid’s Westminster candidate in Ynys Mon, making it far less likely that the party could win the seat at the general election expected next year. As the sitting MS for the same constituency, Mr ap Iorwerth is well placed to overcome the reluctance of local voters to oust an incumbent MP seeking re-election. But without his name on the ballot paper, winning back the seat where it last prevailed in 1997 will be much more difficult for Plaid.

This would most definitely be a negative consequence of Rhun ap Iorwerth’s accession to the party leadership. In fact, it opens up a potential can of worms for Plaid that has been looming since it became clear that boundary changes reducing Wales’ number of seats in the House of Commons from 40 to 32 would be going ahead.

Today it’s often forgotten that Plaid came to be seen as a serious political party rather than as a fringe campaign group by having a small group of MPs who punched well above their weight. They established a reputation for excelling at constituency casework while using the Commons as a platform to campaign on such issues as compensation for workers afflicted with industrial disease as well as causes like the need for a Welsh language TV channel.

Such work provided the credibility Plaid needed as a major contender when the National Assembly came into being in 1999. Even though the party hasn’t managed at a Westminster level to make an electoral breakthrough beyond its Welsh language heartlands, its presence in the Commons has been important in keeping Wales as an entity alive in what remains the fulcrum of UK politics.

Westminster

We often complain that Welsh concerns don’t receive the attention they deserve from the UK Government. But if Plaid had no MPs, the situation would surely be significantly worse. UK Ministers can safely ignore what is said at the Senedd, but Plaid MPs are currently able to put them on the spot on their home territory. It’s also the case that Plaid’s presence at Westminster encourages at least some Welsh Labour MPs to make more of their commitment to Wales in their own contributions than would otherwise be the case.

From Plaid’s point of view – and arguably in the interests of Wales as a whole – it makes sense for the party to have enough MPs to keep making a difference.

With boundary changes and other factors in play, however, Plaid is on the back foot in terms of future Commons representation. There is just one seat that it can be sure of winning: the enlarged version of Dwyfor Meirionnydd, held by Liz Saville-Roberts, its Westminster leader. The adjacent seat of Arfon, also held by Plaid, is disappearing, and the sitting MP Hywel Williams has announced his retirement at the next general election.

Plaid’s third current seat, Ceredigion, was won narrowly by Ben Lake from the Liberal Democrats in 2017, but he’s proven to be popular and in 2019 his majority rose to more than 6,300, this time over the Conservatives, with the Lib Dems slipping back to third place. Thanks to boundary changes, the seat is expanding into Pembrokeshire to become Ceredigion Preseli. On a good day for the Conservatives, the new seat should be in play for them, but a combination of the likelihood that it will be a bad day for the Tories with Mr Lake’s popularity makes it more than likely that he’ll be re-elected.

Jonathan Edwards

In 2019 Plaid’s other seat was Carmarthen East & Dinefwr, won for the fourth time since 2010 by Jonathan Edwards. He now sits as an Independent, however, having left Plaid after accepting a caution for assaulting his wife.

Whichever way you look at it, Plaid totally mishandled the issue. After re-admitting him to the party when he had complied with the requirements of a disciplinary panel, Plaid’s national executive committee decided he shouldn’t be able to regain the party whip after all.

He left Plaid and has suggested he may stand as an Independent in the new, expanded constituency of Carmarthen. Despite the police caution, Mr Edwards retains a lot of support locally from people who believe he was treated harshly by Plaid.

So far, no-one has come forward to offer their services as Plaid’s candidate for the enlarged seat. There were rumours that Adam Price, having stood down as party leader, might opt to stand for Westminster again, but he has flatly denied that, telling me: “I’ve been there and done that,” having been the MP for Carmarthen East & Dinefwr from 2001 until 2010.

Some local Plaid members take the view that Mr Price has metaphorically stabbed Mr Edwards in the back. Such dissension will make it harder for Plaid to win the new Carmarthen seat, and with slim prospects of any gains elsewhere, the likelihood is that it will be reduced to just two MPs.

If that happens, the party will face a significant drop in the state funding it receives to employ researchers known as Short money after Ted Short, a former deputy leader of the Labour Party and Leader of the House of Commons, who championed the right of opposition parties to receive such cash as a means to improve Parliamentary scrutiny.

In addition, Plaid will also see its speaking rights reduced in the Commons chamber, making it a greater challenge for the party to get its voice heard on a UK-wide basis.

Parties rarely admit before a general election that they expect to lose seats, putting on a show of self-confidence. Behind the masks they put on for public consumption, however, Plaid politicians will be worried.


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Cat
Cat
10 months ago

I’m still waiting to hear that they have dealt with some of the people in the bullying and misogyny report

Rheinallt morgan
Rheinallt morgan
10 months ago
Reply to  Cat

Hir pob aros.

Steffan Gwent
10 months ago

Having been elected twice as Vice-Chair of the Carmarthen East and Dinefwr Plaid Cymru constituency during the period that Jonathan Edwards MP was suspended from the party for admitting to an act of domestic violence I was privy to many of the manouverings behind the scenes. Initially I supported Jonathan. The support for him from many members especially amongst elected local councillors was cult like. I changed my position however when a young female Plaid County Council candidate had the courage to tell Jonathan Edwards to his face in a constituency meeting that he had to go. Adam Price then… Read more »

Ivor Schilling
Ivor Schilling
10 months ago
Reply to  Steffan Gwent

Why did he ‘have to go’? Doesn’t make any kind of sense.

Richard
Richard
10 months ago

A well written piece that scopes in clear detail the situation Plaid is in. The situation certainly is challenging for Plaid which ever set of directions it takes. Plaid remains as we all know the most successful party in Wales for good ideas and aspirations – needed to move Wales forward but just lacks the decision on whether it is the ‘ Welsh Conscience ‘ of Labour , urging it to move on a range of Wales and Welsh subjects or indeed a strong and challenging unit of MSs tasked to hold the Welsh Gvt to account in a constructive… Read more »

Mr Williams
Mr Williams
10 months ago

Plaid, under the leadership of Leanne Wood, won the Rhondda constituency in the Senedd. That was a huge achievement and she worked really hard to win that seat, usually a staunch Labour stronghold. Therein, in my opinion, lies the key to winning more seats in Wales, outside of the traditional heartlands. Look at what she did and replicate.

Last edited 10 months ago by Mr Williams
Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
10 months ago
Reply to  Mr Williams

A recruitment drive for a Messiah, I’d start with Prif Ysgol Aberystwyth in the Inter Pol dept. First in the world…

I and the misses thought back to the days when Elfyn Llwyd would stand up in parliament and the place would go silent so as to listen to him speak, his voice, like Burton’s, would sooth and excite the heart and the head at the same time…

Last edited 10 months ago by Mab Meirion
Twrch ap Trwydd
10 months ago
Reply to  Mr Williams

Leanne was a true leader with the interest of Wales uppermost in her mind at all times.

Ivor Schilling
Ivor Schilling
10 months ago

She was crap, and veered off into her ‘issues’, as we all know.

Ivor Schilling
Ivor Schilling
10 months ago
Reply to  Ivor Schilling

Wood: ‘Well, I don;t think gender issues are just a side issue and a distraction!’

Ivor: ‘No, that’s why you shouldn’t have been elected as the leader of a national liberation movement. Get back on the dole!’

Gaynor Jones
Gaynor Jones
10 months ago
Reply to  Mr Williams

Unfortunately she never built on that on a local or Westminster level. Where is her legacy there should be a RCT Plaid led Council but they have not come close since the 90s. I find that very strange…Carms and Ceredigion managed it, not that I am saying they are any better but they consolidated on the back of the seats.

Rob
Rob
10 months ago

For goodness sake don’t split the nationalist vote. If Plaid lose seats to Labour, or even worse the Tories it would be ammunition to the Unionists who will argue that “the people of Wales don’t really want devolution, therefore undermining it is the right thing to do.”

CJPh
CJPh
10 months ago
Reply to  Rob

the matter of independence is not solely a party political issue. If the ‘nationalist’ vote is split, affording Labour more seats, but the sum total of Welsh people voting for parties in favour of independence go up then that would be a victory. Surely?

Ernie The Smallholder
Ernie The Smallholder
10 months ago
Reply to  CJPh

Although it is said that the majority of Welsh Labour’s supporters are in favour of independence UK Labour has made it clear is against Wales being a separate nation. The Labour party is not the democratic organisation that you would expect – Its control is a UK centralised leadership and can rewrite the manifesto almost in opposition to what it voted for at its conference. An example of that is the motion in favour of proportional representation and the dismissal of policy by its leadership. Secondly, Wales does not write Labour party policy even for Wales. One alternative way to… Read more »

Richard
Richard
10 months ago
Reply to  CJPh

There are certainly supporters of more self determination in ALL parties but the function of a strong ‘ national movement’ has always been to move the agenda of Wales forward.

Riki
Riki
10 months ago

First and foremost, How about every person in Wales in politics stop identifying the English parliament as British. Then refuse to send any representatives! Then Bring in News from around the world and exalting how Wales and the Britons are treated by the Anglo. People of this country need to start stepping up! Did anyone else notice all the English flags in use on Twitter when Wrexham were in that tournament the other day? I called it…this works in England favour, not Wales’. It re-affirms American belief that Wales is in England.

Chris J
Chris J
10 months ago

It would be good for the investigations relating to the report to be extended to the branch level, where may cases of misogyny and old white males with politics that are otherwise reactionary, apart from Welsh independence, hold sway.

Cadnawes
Cadnawes
10 months ago

The censorship of comments on this thread is unbelievable!

Ivor Schilling
Ivor Schilling
10 months ago
Reply to  Cadnawes

Its standard fare for this ‘ere site, though. What do you expect?

Richard
Richard
10 months ago
Reply to  Ivor Schilling

Not noticed your comments ever being stifled my friend 🥲

Keep up ⬆️ the good work of adding your thoughts 💭

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