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YesCymru 2024 – nailing indy?

28 Dec 2024 6 minute read
Dafydd Iwan singing at a YesCymru march. (Credit: Nation.Cymru)

Anonymous*

 As a passionate supporter of independence and, until recently, fervent supporter of YesCymru, the campaign for Welsh independence, I feel I need to share my growing disappointment and disillusionment with this organisation as the flagship of my desire for a free Wales.

It was wonderful to see YesCymru growing in relevance and impact, firstly during the pandemic as support for Welsh independence seemed to explode on social media platforms.

That rapid growth led to a reset and restructure – perhaps a natural part of ‘growing pains’ for any young campaign organisation.

We all believed this had been successfully negotiated and it was with great joy that I watched renewed progress in 2022 and especially last year, in 2023. There were some great marches, a national conference, a new feeling of energy and enthusiasm, innovative campaigning, a regular voice in the media, across multiple outlets, YesCymru felt like a real and significant part of the national discussion. It felt like we had momentum and a voice.

This all seemed to fall apart last Christmas. The CEO was sacked? Let go? Had their role dissolved for financial reasons?

Fundraising

This is still unclear to me (and to many other members with whom I speak). I do have it on good authority that the financial issues were far from existential. I also understand that the professional team led by the CEO and at the heart of the organisation already had plans in place to move active fundraising plans forward in 2024 (I was very surprised to discover that there had never been any formal fundraising efforts!).

Not only was it concerning to see things fall apart and all communication and the media presence essentially disappear at the start of the year but our executive officer soon followed the CEO out of the door.

Rumour has it they left in disgust at the chaos and poor leadership from the board in the absence of the CEO. Whilst I truly hope it is not the case, there have also been accusations of utterly unacceptable behaviour towards this employee by members of the board, and others connected to them.

Communication

I fear that these have the ring of truth. It seems in keeping with the abrupt and poorly communicated departure of the CEO, something I discovered some days after the fact here on Nation.Cymru – I still don’t understand why the Board which executed such a momentous decision did not see fit to let us, the members, know immediately.

And what of 2024? There was a march in Carmarthen – blink and you missed it. For whatever reason it barely caused a ripple of news.

Little else has happened. Communication has been very poor. Missteps have been frequent. Why has there not been a conference this year? There was one planned for Swansea with provisional venue bookings made in 2023. What an opportunity to develop ideas and engage with members, to strengthen the organisation in so many ways…

The big event of the year seems to have been the Llwyd report. This contained no recommendations for improving the organisation. It had no ideas for strengthening the campaign for independence.

It seemed to be an exercise in justifying the decisions made last year by the members of the governing body who are still in situ.

It must have cost money but I’m utterly at a loss to see any value. What was the point?

Pointless

I feel for Mr Llwyd, who has produced a pointless report, self-serving for those who commissioned it but of no value for the organisation which paid for it.

Most significantly, it adds nothing of value for the membership whose money (our money!) will have been spent in the perceived interests of the board members by those very members.

Mr Llwyd is an experienced politician. I have to assume that he was given a brief and information by the board which was simply designed to justify a single historic (and irreversible) decision rather than consider ways forward for the organisation and the campaign.

What a waste of money, time and energy!

Ironically, it seems that the poor management, inaction and a failure to communicate across 2024 will have led to a loss of annual income equal to, or even larger than, the wage of the former CEO.

I certainly know of many members who have either already left, as I have, or intend to do so.

Of course, it is impossible to know for sure as requests for information, even up to date membership numbers, are never answered with the openness and transparency we as members should expect, and which we certainly deserve.

Members are even actively discouraged from communicating with each other.

The leadership seems determined to operate as opaquely as possible and to treat the members, who are the backbone of the organisation, with contempt.

I suspect my anger is quite clear to those of you reading this but I am disappointed most of all.

The leadership must go, making way for those who have some grasp of what they’re doing and who have a plan to further YesCymru’s goal of an independent Wales.

Incompetence

We don’t have the time or resources to waste any on incompetence, naivety and aimlessness. Those who are natural born campaigners should campaign, those who support independence should to do so however they can, those who are wasting everyone’s time should step away, those who have dubious motives should leave. In their place we should find those who can make an impact and build a movement.

I truly believed this was happening in 2023, only to see it scuppered by the very people in whom we the membership placed our trust. They should be deeply ashamed of their behaviour and their failure.

I will not be rejoining YesCymru until the current leadership has done the right thing, accepted the damage they’ve done, and made way for individuals with the right skills to take things forward but I still harbour a hope that YesCymru can come surging back to fill the space it had begun to make for itself, can play its part in leading Wales to freedom, can be a voice for me in the independence debate.

I hope that 2025 brings new light and impetus for our campaign.

*The writer of this op-ed asked that their identity to be protected for fear of repercussions.


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Y Cymro
Y Cymro
6 days ago

YesCymru has got to get its act together fast or the neverending circle will continue where unionist parties Labour, Conservatives, Liberal Democrats and Reform UK will continue to use Wales as a doormat to further their own narrow political & anglocentric agenda, especially Reform, so cementing the English establishment & Whitehall’s dominance over all aspects of our lives.

Alun
Alun
6 days ago

I’m a casual observer, there seems to be no famous names or backers encouraging both members and non-members to pressure for independence.
It feels this organisation has had it’s nadir and now it’s a rapid decline to failure.

And
And
6 days ago
Reply to  Alun

We shouldn’t need famous names or backers to be honest. Though the organisations failure to adapt has meant that its fallen behind.

TheOtherJones
TheOtherJones
6 days ago

“Those who are natural born campaigners should campaign,”

Is there anyone left at this point? All the members that stood up to try and nudge the campaign forward have been utterly savaged, in public, and “got rid of.”

Same old faces still there, waving flags from bridges, and the organisation had all but disappeared… other than being called out in the media.

NowThen
NowThen
6 days ago

Yawn! Am I the only one totally fed up with all this childish backstabbing behaviour amongst previous or current YesCymru members? This half way nonsense of claiming to support the cause but trying to damage it at the same time is getting tiresome.

FrankC
FrankC
6 days ago
Reply to  NowThen

The cause is independence. YesCymru is no longer the the vehicle through which that cause will be advanced. The organisation is now a discredited bunch of bullies, grifters and liars. I very much doubt it will exist in its present form this time next year.

Jones
Jones
6 days ago
Reply to  FrankC

Where is your evidence for this.? Elfyn Lwyd’s report shone a light on the true perpetrators but NC would not report on that for some reason as it would have shone an unfavourable light on their ‘journalism’

FrankC
FrankC
5 days ago
Reply to  Jones

I think you’ll find that, outside of the cult driving YesCymru over a cliff edge, the report was regarded as laughably biased. Nice waste of the declining number of members’ subs, eh?

Jones
Jones
5 days ago
Reply to  FrankC

So in your eyes Elfyn is a corrupt and colluding lacky who has had the wool pulled over his eyes by a bunch of incompetent no hopers

FrankC
FrankC
5 days ago
Reply to  Jones

It wasn’t an independent rereport was it? The language used in it was seriously biased and he was clearly selected by the cult leaders to deliver the outcome they wanted. Your rantings won’t change the perception most people have of the sad decline of YesCymru, just reenforce them.

Cymroycwm
Cymroycwm
2 days ago
Reply to  Jones

You said it, Jones.

TheOtherJones
TheOtherJones
5 days ago
Reply to  Jones

The Report which wasn’t reported on by any news outlet because it was so clearly a whitewash?

The Report that refused to take evidence from one of the “sides”?

The Report whose steering group was chaired by one of the people under investigation?

That “Report”?

Cymroycwm
Cymroycwm
2 days ago
Reply to  Jones

Shone a light? Did you read it? Poorly drafted and it clearly avoided all the negative behaviour of the crachach at YC.

Martin Palmer
Martin Palmer
6 days ago

Oh dear ‘anonymous’!
I come to praise Yes Cymru not to bury it (sorry Shakespeare).
‘Anonymous’, you ‘have it on good authority’, you ‘understand’, ‘rumour has it’, ‘I fear that’, ‘it seems’. How very Fail Daily.
Who is this ‘experienced politician’ Mr. Llwyd? As you are ’no longer a member’(?) you have no say in the organisation including the elected leadership.

TheOtherJones
TheOtherJones
6 days ago
Reply to  Martin Palmer

Pretty unnecessary response, and you all wonder why your membership is declining.

Martin Palmer
Martin Palmer
5 days ago
Reply to  TheOtherJones

TheOtherJones, you are entitled to your view as am I. I find your response ‘pretty unnecessary’ (particularly as you also prefer to remain anonymous) but hey, pantomime season is nearly over so I’ll leave it there.

Keith Parry
Keith Parry
6 days ago

What do we want? Independence! When do we want it? NOW!

Martyn Vaughan
Martyn Vaughan
5 days ago

“Fear of consequences”? If that is the way of working by Yes Cymru it should be left to wither away.

T Burgess
T Burgess
5 days ago

What I found extremely frustrating with Yes Cymru was the timing of the sacking of the CEO. This action completly overshadowed the positive news revealed in the Independent Commissions report on the consituitional future of Wales.. the report indicated a very positive future for Welsh Independence… but this once in a lifetime opportunity to capitalise on such a good news report was completely overshadowed by Yes Cymru’s boards infighting! So Frustrating!!

Cymroycwm
Cymroycwm
2 days ago
Reply to  T Burgess

Just one more example of inept management by the Board, sadly not the only one

Hedd Gwynfor
Hedd Gwynfor
4 days ago

Visit the YesCymru website for the latest info in terms of finance and NGB.

Financial Update (16 December): https://www.yes.cymru/financial_update

Elections for New YesCymru Directors (2 December): https://www.yes.cymru/etholiadau_ar_gyfer_cyfarwyddwyr_yescymru_2025

Cymroycwm
Cymroycwm
2 days ago

YesCymru has been through so many chaotic phases that it must be clear by now that it is and will be unable to find its feet under any circumstances. The Llwyd report was an attempt to whitewash the currrent gang. It was sub-standard in its execution and anything but independent given the heavy footprints of the big cheeses on the YC board stamped all over it. Subscribing to YC is a waste of money but fighting for annibyniaeth is not. Somehow, the people who really know how to run an organisation must be recruited and allowed to act professionally away… Read more »

Rob Pountney
Rob Pountney
1 day ago

I actually tried and failed to join Yes Cymru, twice… they were unable to provide me with a bank account number to receive my money, it actually took them days to fail to do that… I may well have stood for election for the ‘outside Wales’ position (had I managed to succeed in joining), glad I didn’t, the organisation is a complete mess and has been now for a long while, at least one of the people ‘in charge’ in recent times is someone known to me from social media, and quite frankly I wouldn’t trust them to lead a… Read more »

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