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FAW to consider changing name of national teams to Cymru after Qatar World Cup

31 Oct 2022 3 minute read
FAW chief executive Noel Mooney (Credit: FAW)

Wales will consider changing its name to Cymru on the international stage after the World Cup.

Cymru – the Welsh name for Wales – is already used by the Football Association of Wales in its internal and external communications and by staff at the governing body’s headquarters in the Vale of Glamorgan.

The FAW plans to speak to various stakeholders in Welsh football about the merit of changing the country’s name in international competition, while the PA news agency can reveal informal discussions have already been held with UEFA on the subject.

“The team should always be called Cymru, that’s what we call it here,” said FAW chief executive Noel Mooney ahead of Wales’ first World Cup since 1958.

“Our view at the moment is that domestically we’re clearly called Cymru. That’s what we call our national teams.

“If you look at our website, how we talk about ourselves, we are very much Cymru.

“Internationally we feel we have a bit more work to do yet. So we are going to this World Cup as Wales.

“But I think 2023 will be a year when we have a good discussion with all the different stakeholders – whether that Governments, our own boards, councils and decision-making bodies, staff, club and players.

“We’re a very open democratic organisation and we don’t just unilaterally decide today to do something like that.

“I would say it’s the direction of travel, but there’s no firm decisions on it. It’s more almost by osmosis that we’re heading towards it.”

Focus

The issue of a possible name change for Wales was brought into sharp focus earlier this month when Robert Page’s side were drawn in the same Euro 2024 qualifying group as Turkey.

The Turks now compete on the international stage as Turkiye after the Ankara government asked for the country to be known globally by its Turkish name and not the anglicised version.

Mooney said: “You’ve seen countries like Azerbaijan, Turkey and others use their own language.

“They’re quite strong on it and we spoke to the Turkish at the Euro 2024 draw about it.

“We’ve also had unofficial discussions with UEFA over coffees at different events. Asking how Turkey did this, how other countries did that.

“We’ve asked what their direction of travel is, for example is there a movement towards people using their indigenous language?

“What I do know is there’s a renaissance of the Welsh language and a sense of great pride in what we do with the culture and the heritage.”

Changing its name to Cymru would end Wales’ status as being the last alphabetically of UEFA’s 55 national association members at different draws and meetings.

“We sit by the Ukrainians all the time and that’s nice because we’ve become good friends with them,” said Mooney, an Irishman who is learning Welsh and has set himself the target of holding a Q&A session at the National Eisteddfod next summer.

“But we would like to sit by the Croatians and the Czechs a bit more.”


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George Atkinson
George Atkinson
29 days ago

I am 100% behind this. Everyone is calling the Czech Republic Czechia these days so it isn’t an issue.

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
29 days ago

Don’t consider it FAW. Just do it. Cymru & Cymry is the original native name for our country & people. I’ve never been comfortable with the derogatory Saxon/English term Wales & Welsh seeing both mean foreigner & land of foreigners. I am not a foreigner in my own land. I would be happy if both were consigned to the historical bin and our true identity restored along with our national soverignty.

Last edited 29 days ago by Y Cymro
Gareth Westacott
Gareth Westacott
29 days ago

That would be fantastic! They certainly put the WRU to shame.

Cerith Griffiths
Cerith Griffiths
29 days ago

WRU – 🇬🇧
FAW – 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿👍👍

George Thomas
George Thomas
29 days ago

Both the WRU and FAW represent the whole of Wales/Cymru. Each can learn things from the other and each can do some thing better.

AWJ is right up there with Jess Fishlock and Gareth Bale as people we can be immensely proud of, and Jasmine Joyce too.

Wales is too small for us to separate and create rivalry with each other. That sort of infighting has been worst part of our history.

Crwtyddol
Crwtyddol
29 days ago

CarWyn James was too much of a Plaidwr for them to choose him as Cymru coach

Dafydd y Garth
Dafydd y Garth
29 days ago

The WRU is sclerotic.

Gareth Westacott
Gareth Westacott
29 days ago

Yes. After all, who calls Sri Lanka Ceylon any more, or Myanmar Burma, or Zimbabwe Rhodesia?

Paul Evans
Paul Evans
29 days ago

Wait until The Daily Telegraph and The Daily Mail find out. It is political correctness gone mad.

Crwtyddol
Crwtyddol
29 days ago
Reply to  Paul Evans

CYMRU comes from cymrodyr, meaning comrades
WALES from Anglo saxon meaning foreigner
The scholastic might not be completely accurate but they’re very near to it!

Llefain
Llefain
29 days ago

Yay! Great idea!
Normalise seeing us from our own perspective. ❤

So many countries are doing this now and it is only right and decent. Would be amazing to be one of those that finally expects the respect of using our own/real name.

Connoisseur of Understatement
Connoisseur of Understatement
29 days ago

Did Noel Mooney say “Turkey” or “Türkiye”? My guess is the latter…

Huw Davies
Huw Davies
29 days ago

Gwych. Unwaith eto mae Cymdeithas Bel-droed Cymru yn tangos y ffordd i Undeb Taeogion Rygbi Cymru. Chi’n gwneud fi’n falch o fod yn Gymro!

Cwm Rhondda
Cwm Rhondda
29 days ago

This is a great idea. Most people in Cymru think Wales is a direct translation, as we know it isn’t. Why would we want to keep Wales and Welsh given its derogatory reference to us being foreigners in our own country. Well done to Noel Mooney and the FAW – amazing news.

George Thomas
George Thomas
29 days ago

The dragon has two tongues. If someone stats a “Wales” chant at the CCS I will join in, if someone starts a “Cymru” chant I will join in. If someone says referring to us as Wales or Cymru is wrong, then I’ll feel uncomfortable and such a positive place – a place proudly representing our nation – will feel that much worse. Together stronger is our motto which has provided us so many good moments in recent years and I don’t want the historical Swansea/Cardiff fans fighting to become fighting between fans who speak or don’t speak Welsh. I’m not… Read more »

Y Tywysog Lloegr a Moscow
Y Tywysog Lloegr a Moscow
29 days ago
Reply to  George Thomas

As a monoglot Saes speaking Cymro, I would like to consign the “w” word to the bin. We don’t need it. And I suspect that even the most dusty kneed OBE chasing Unionist in our nation would share a similar view.
Apart from ARTie, TC, Crosby, French-andSaunders and their ilk of course who will think whatever Mordor tells them to think.

Last edited 29 days ago by Y Tywysog Lloegr a Moscow
Y Tywysog Lloegr a Moscow
Y Tywysog Lloegr a Moscow
29 days ago

YES! THIS! ABSOLUTELY THIS! Every single organisation who currently bears the “W” word should drop it in favour of Cymru, with no “English alternative” provided. (BTW did any of you notice Countryfile with Matt Baker Using the true name of Eryri and Yr Wyddfa in their piece on Sunday? Seems like the nicer ones are making the effort. That moved me nearly to tears. But then I remembered that having guests in our country use our names for our places should be the standard not the exception and that moved me to a different emotion. Diolch Countryfile. So what’s your… Read more »

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