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Abolish leader dismisses suggestion that UK should be a ‘voluntary’ union

24 Aug 2021 2 minutes Read
Abolish the Assembly leader Richard Suchorzewski.

The leader of Abolish the Welsh Assembly has dismissed the suggestion that the UK should be a “voluntary” union of nations.

Richard Suchorzewski took aim at the idea that Wales should be allowed to decide whether it wants to be in the UK or not, during a discussion about saving the union on the ‘anti-woke’ channel GB News.

Suchorzewski, whose party failed to win any seats at the Senedd election, and only received 3.7% of the vote, described the suggestion, put forward by First Minister Mark Drakeford, as a “load of nonsense”.

He also claimed that independence supporters were being “conned by the narrative that we are better off on our own”.

He told GB News: “So of course people are being conned by the likes of Adam Price, the leader of Plaid Cymru, and by the likes believe it or not of Mark Drakeford, the current First Minister in Wales, who, let me just quote this, it’s only one line, said back in March of this year, and I’ll quote him exactly, ‘the United Kingdom is over, and a new union should be crafted to reflect a voluntary association of four nations’.

“What a load of nonsense.”

He also said: “Frankly you have the Welsh nationalists, who are idealists, who believe that the Welsh nation are better off on their own, but frankly are financially illiterate because they do not understand the fact that Wales is bailed out by the UK Government to the tune of 15bn a year under normal circumstances and because of Covid over the last year or two and additional five or six billion.

“These people have been conned by the narrative that we are better off on our own. What a load of bunkum.

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Philip
Philip
1 month ago

Why give publicity to this party which despite its exposure in the media failed to get any significant support in the last elections? Stop encouraging them. Discuss real issues.

arthur owen
1 month ago
Reply to  Philip

I totally agree with you,why give this guy any publicity?

David
David
1 month ago

R Su..ki :- Why / How are we better off in the union?

CJPh
CJPh
1 month ago

So, Abolish leader counters the arguments in favour of full Welsh autonomy with ad hominems, faux disbelief and bluster. And the pope comes out as being a fan of God.

Diolch, Nation.

Welsh_Sion
Welsh_Sion
1 month ago
Reply to  CJPh

And the pope comes out as being a fan of God

________

You forgot to add:

Grizzly bears are stocking up on Andrex.

🙂

hdavies15
hdavies15
1 month ago

Insignificant man makes insignificant comment. Big deal, Guy had his 5 minutes on GB News where he entertained all 5 viewers with is predictable nonsense.

Barry Pandy
Barry Pandy
1 month ago

Good to see him admit that our membership of the so-called ‘union’ is in any way voluntary. Essentially he’s admitting that Wales was annexed and has no choice about being part of the UK.

Rob
Rob
1 month ago

Yet before the election he was happy to accept an independence referendum, yet now he doesn’t even believe in democracy.

What happens if in the future a majority of voters favour independence, should we be kept in the Union against the democratic will of the nation? We could end up like Northern Ireland.

That being said its pointless giving this party airtime when they failed to win a single seat at the Senedd election, which is pretty bad considering it has PR. Plus a lot of their members are not even Welsh.

Barry Pandy
Barry Pandy
1 month ago
Reply to  Rob

The Senedd election didn’t go his way so of course he doesn’t believe in democracy. I’ve always said that conservatives (and abolish are conservatives) don’t really believe in democracy unless the vote goes their way.

Quornby
Quornby
30 days ago
Reply to  Rob

Ms Nandy favours “Spanish methods”.

Barry Pandy
Barry Pandy
30 days ago
Reply to  Quornby

Which is why I won’t be voting Labour. Reminds me of how the Russian dominated Soviet Union did everything they could to prevent nations from declaring independence from the former Tsarist empire after the Bolshevik revolution (e.g. Ukraine) or simply annexed them again at a later date (e.g. the Baltic states of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia).

William Habib Steele
William Habib Steele
1 month ago

I can’t find GERW figures for 2021 or 2020. How accurate were the 2019 figures? What tricks of accounting did the English Government of the UK engage in to produce those figures for the Government of Wales?

Mr Williams
Mr Williams
30 days ago

Well I will not lose any sleep over his opinions!

Wrexhamian
Wrexhamian
30 days ago
Reply to  Mr Williams

His opinions regarding Welsh politics have marginally less significance than those of Lord Bucket Head; he’s now reduced to spouting his anti-democratic and offensive nonsense on the TV equivalent of Hitler’s bunker. Fascinating to watch a man with such ludicrous and unpopular opinions take himself seriously as a potential politician.

M powell
M powell
30 days ago

It is strange that the strongest unionists keep the reason for remaining in the union is the financial support. They have however been the main drivers to keep the economy running this way. This means they admit to do in a poor job of running Cymru. Do they believe that a failing company structure needs to have more money pumped in instead of trying a different structure? Cyndi has masses of potential as a green energy hub producing wind tidal an d hydro. Then using this to produce manufacturing support an produce green methanol for transport solving battery and charging… Read more »

Steve Duggan
Steve Duggan
30 days ago

These people are not worth our attention. Their argument dead. Their beliefs more and more discredited with every passing day. Let’s just focus on how we can build a better future for ourselves and leave people like Suchorzewski to the dustbin of history.

Huw Davies
Huw Davies
30 days ago
Reply to  Steve Duggan

Or any other dustbin!

Stephen Owen
Stephen Owen
30 days ago

If Wales was paid for the water it exports it would be very rich. Cymru am byth 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Huw Davies
Huw Davies
30 days ago
Reply to  Stephen Owen

I keep saying they’re welcome to buy the water, after it passes through modified pipelines to generate electricity! There must be a way to do that. The idea of the same people that forced us to have these dams ending up providing us with energy and payment appeals to my sense of irony.

Erisian
Erisian
30 days ago

GB ‘News’ and this ‘Mother’ should not be afforded the oxygen of oxygen, never mind the oxygen of publicity.

Andy O'Sullivan
Andy O'Sullivan
30 days ago

This man is wrong on so many levels he doesn’t deserve to be acknowledged. However, I give my view on the meaning of Mark Drakeford’s comments. The comments exist in an historical context of Wales (Scotland and Ireland) having been invaded by the English and in a contemporary context of Wales (Scotland and Northern Ireland) having been excluded from significant consultation on the ‘management’ of the COVID disease – an area of governance for which the devolved authorities have responsibility. This consultation, I might add, that the Conservative government, committed to on multiple occasions. At the same time I can… Read more »

Quornby
Quornby
30 days ago

All English parties will talk the talk NONE of them will walk the walk…ask “Spanish methods” Nandy.

R W
R W
29 days ago

You “do not see a rational financial basis for an independent Wales.” Can you tell me why an independent Wales could not replicate the economic success achieved by Ireland over a relatively short period of time?

Quornby
Quornby
30 days ago

Who cares what this nobody thinks?

David Harking
David Harking
30 days ago

No one ever comments on how we should appreciate having such twerps. Basically, Abolish candidates can even be intelligent, but their whole ideology is flawed, it is founded upon assimilation, denial of cultural uniqueness and the simplicity of homogeny. They serve Wales as the greatest example of everything we do not want to be and to be honest, I am bizarrely grateful that they exist.

Mark
Mark
30 days ago

to everyone making comments about this bloke and his fake party, just remember, similar things were being said about another fake party 20+ years ago, just look at the chaos they’ve unleashed on the UK. while not giving abolish or its members a platform
is to be recommended, It would be foolish not to keep an eye on what these devious parasites are up to. They will be planning for the next Senedd or council elections already.

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
29 days ago

I don’t hate many things in life, but despise Richard Suchorzewski with a passion Like most frustrated little Englanders, Richard Suchorzewski is a failed Tory of Polish ancestry, a rabid Brexiteer,.who led a non-party of racists & fascists with one goal. To abolish our Senedd & devolution without a vote. He also admitted his intention to remove Wales nationhood too. He indicated so. during one Senedd election debate when asked. He also questioned Wales right to call itself a nation, and was in favour the ending the teaching of Welsh in our schools and the removal Welsh in our road… Read more »

Last edited 29 days ago by Y Cymro
R W
R W
29 days ago

An irrelevant man talking on an irrelevant channel watched by one man and his dog. Who cares?

agreed
agreed
8 days ago

I agree

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