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Boost growth by Wales and Scotland rejoining EU, Plaid call to SNP

09 Oct 2022 4 minute read
A Wales and Europe flag at a People’s Vote march. Picture by Ilovetheeu (CC 4.0).

Plaid Cymru’s Westminster leader will say that the economic crisis requires that Wales and Scotland rejoin the European Union when she addresses the SNP conference in Aberdeen later today.

Liz Saville Roberts MP will reiterate her party’s call that the United Kingdom must urgently rejoin the single market and customs union “for the sake of our economy”.

She will add that ultimately, Wales and Scotland must rejoin the European Union “together as independent nations”.

In her speech, she will also cite a ‘game-changing’ new report by Professor John Doyle of Dublin City University which “debunks” the argument that Wales is too poor to be independent.

The report shows that the fiscal deficit that an independent Wales would face would be normal for comparable countries, a “fraction of what the unionists quote at us”, according to Saville Roberts, and that it is due to the fact that “independence is normal; chronic inequality under the Union is not”. 

The Plaid Cymru MP will say: “If Truss were honest with the public, she would admit that the main government policy damaging economic growth is Brexit itself.

“The effects of Brexit have now begun to materialise. OECD [Organisation for Economic Co-operation] figures show that UK GDP grew by 14.3% between 2016 and 2021. This is a smaller growth rate than four of the EU’s largest economies.

“During the same period, Germany had the highest growth at 32.2%, followed by Spain (25.6%), France (23%) and Italy (16.3%). Brexit Britain scraping the bottom of the barrel once again.

“Both the Tories and Labour are now deeply committed to the hard Brexit project. Both are committed to strengthening the horsepower of the economic crisis that’s hurtling towards us.

“For the sake of our economy, we must rejoin the single market and customs union.

“Wales marginally voted to leave in 2016. But no-one voted for this shock doctrine: the crazed destruction of industries, for skyrocketing mortgages, or for lower employment rights and environmental and safety standards.

“That’s why I am not afraid to tell the truth – Wales belongs to the European family of nations. Scotland belongs to the European family of nations.

“We must – and will – ensure a brighter future for our children by rejoining the European Union – together – as independent nations.”

New research

She will continue: “We’re told in Wales that we’re too poor to be independent. Too small to run our own affairs. Well, new research by Professor John Doyle of Dublin City University debunks that argument.

“Time and again, we have heard wild estimates about an independent Wales’ likely fiscal gap – that is the difference between public expenditure and what Wales raises in taxes.

“Surprise, surprise: Professor John Doyle shows our fiscal gap would be a fraction of what the unionists quote at us. In his words: ‘Wales’s fiscal gap is not sufficiently large to close off the possibility of a viable, independent Wales.’ It shows once and for all that ‘fantasy economics’ are peddled by those against independence.

“That’s because independence is normal. Chronic inequality under the Union is not normal.

“It is our duty now to show that it isn’t ‘independence for independence’s sake’. It’s independence for the sake of a more prosperous economy, wealthier citizens, and a more outward-looking nation taking our place among the nations of the world.

“We must be eagled eyed about the purpose of our shared political project. All of us in this place are here to improve the lives of the people of our respective nations. But we can’t work in isolation.

“Scottish independence, Welsh independence, Irish Unity. We are a common movement that exists and strives to build a better future, in stark opposition to the vicious inequality at the heart of the United Kingdom. We must therefore act as one for the common good.

“When Liz Truss says she will ‘face down the separatists who threaten to pull apart our precious union, our family,’ we know it’s not about pulling a family apart. When a family is this dysfunctional, it’s only right and fair for all the members to demand a voice.

“Let’s rebuild this family on an equal footing.”


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Fi yn unig
Fi yn unig
1 month ago

Thank you LSR. The future Wales needs so desperately set out perfectly.

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
1 month ago

Size of Cymru=20,779 sq km…

Size of Ynys Mon=714.8 sq km…

Size of Malta=316 sq km…

I rest my case…

Richard 1
Richard 1
1 month ago

We should also use Land Value Taxation to stop the outward flow of wealth from Wales and to control unsustainable land uses like the afforestation of arable land. And we should charge English cities for the water they’re currently stealing.

NOT Grayham Jones
NOT Grayham Jones
1 month ago
Reply to  Richard 1

Why would there be an outward flow of wealth from Wales- LSR is promising a land of milk and honey in an independant Wales. As usual Plaid talking rubbish

Ernie The Smallholder
Ernie The Smallholder
1 month ago

Always ask yourself why England wants to hold on to us. Is it because England is so incompetent with their extremist politics? No central controlled empires or so called unions have survived. Not Yugoslavia, nor the Soviet Union. Imperialism WILL be defeated. Welsh Labour, under the control of UK Labour are holding us back. Mr Drakeford complains about how Wales is treated by the UK government but always comes back for more when he continues to commit Wales to this dreadful arrangement with the UK regime. The Welsh people will have to either seize control of Welsh Labour or/and do… Read more »

David Charles pearn
David Charles pearn
1 month ago

Well said Ernie 👏.

Steve Duggan
Steve Duggan
1 month ago

Liz is correct, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland need to work very closely together in making a more prosperous future for their citizens. Inequality in the UK is growing, we can not go on like this – our only way out is independence.

Richard
Richard
1 month ago

Does she think that a hard border between Wales and England could be avoided if Wales were to rejoin the EU and England still outside the single market and customs union and if so how?

NOT Grayham Jones
NOT Grayham Jones
1 month ago
Reply to  Richard

You are right Richard- basically Plaid need England to rejoin otherwise its a total no go for Wales to become independant.

Richard
Richard
1 month ago

And given the massive movement of people and goods over the Wales / England border every day customs checks would be hugely disruptive. The damage that it would do to trade between Wales and its biggest trading partner (i.e. England) would more than negate any trade benefits Wales would get from rejoining the EU on its own. Given the close integration of the economies of Wales and England, it would be quite unrealistic for an independent Wales to join the EU for as long as England stayed outside the single market and the customs union.

The Original Mark
The Original Mark
1 month ago
Reply to  Richard

we don’t trade with England, we trade as England, Welsh businesses/companies are registered in England, A small point, but worth noting that Wales doesn’t have its own assay office, we don’t even produce Welsh lamb any more. But saying that, I don’t understand why people refuse to see the serious issues with the EU,

Y Tywysog Lloegr a Moscow
Y Tywysog Lloegr a Moscow
1 month ago

What serious issues specifically?

I.Humphrys
I.Humphrys
1 month ago

EU is led by limited people not subject to removal by votes. Macron has decided to ignore and form some other structure not controlled by the USA.
Don’t waste our energy and precious time.

Last edited 1 month ago by I.Humphrys
Dai Rob
Dai Rob
1 month ago

Plaid have zero self-awareness.
This is the main reason they have made zero progress, and infact have gone backwards, right across the Valleys & all the industrial ares.
Banging the same old drum!!

Y Tywysog Lloegr a Moscow
Y Tywysog Lloegr a Moscow
1 month ago

Eventually rejoining the EU is a good idea and we should apply as soon as we are free. But it will take at least a decade to fix what Boris and the Brexiteers broke.
In the meantime, we move slowly through the spheres of influence: Shengen etc.
We will need to stand on our own two feet first. It is too long to wait for our EU friends to ride to the rescue and the waiting list is already long

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