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Daily Mail is the most popular newspaper in Wales, says new report

27 Jul 2021 2 minutes Read

 

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The Daily Mail is the most popular newspaper in Wales, according to a new report.

Ofcom’s News Consumption report 2021 has revealed that content from the right-wing news organisation is consumed by 18% of the population, either in print or online.

This compares with 17% for The Guardian, 13% for The Sun, and 9% for the Western Mail.

Ofcom News Consumption Survey 2021

For print only, the Daily Mail came in joint first with The Sun at 9%. In print, the next most popular newspaper was the Daily Mirror at 4%.

The Ofcom News Consumption Survey 2021 also found that TV remains the most-used platform for news nowadays by adults in Wales at 74%. This is followed by websites/apps (non-social media) 48% and radio at 47%.

The report says over half (57%) of adults in Wales use BBC One for news, while 38% use ITV Wales and 34% use Facebook.

Ofcom News Consumption Survey 2021. News channels

Excluding social media, the BBC website and app is the most-used other internet source for news in Wales (31%).

Wales-based news websites or apps such as S4C or Western Mail are used by 10% of adults in the country.

‘S4C’

The Welsh language channel S4C is used by 6% of adults in Wales.

BBC Radio Wales/Cymru is used by 10% of adults in Wales, and is the third most popular radio source after BBC Radio 2 (18%) and BBC Radio 1 (12%).

BBC One remains the most-used source for accessing news about Wales by people in Wales.

The report says 87% of people in Wales who follow news are interested in news about Wales.

The primary source for the data is Ofcom’s News Consumption Survey. It also also contains information from BARB for television viewing.

In total, 1,278 CATI (computer-assisted telephone interviewing) and 3,327 online interviews across the UK were carried out during 2020/21. The sample size for all adults over the age of 16 in Wales is 478.

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Chris
Chris
1 month ago

Unsurprising. Most educated people get their news from online. Only older people, the right wing and builders still read newspapers.

Ann Corkett
Ann Corkett
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

That’s me put in my place.

Pen-y-Bont
Pen-y-Bont
1 month ago
Reply to  Ann Corkett

“Chris” usually makes nasty, bigoted comments on here I’m afraid.

Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Pen-y-Bont

“Pen-y-Bont” usually tries to character assassinate people on here I’m afraid.
He/she is a perpetually and strategically offended Unionist.
(Happy to play this game if you want PyB)

Vaughan
Vaughan
1 month ago
Reply to  Pen-y-Bont

Perish the thought!

Paul
Paul
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

The ‘Mail’ figure also includes MailOnline.
More worrying is that 1 in 3 people get their ‘news’ from Facebook.

Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Paul

Explains Brexit though

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

That’s a rather assertive assumption! Do you know most educated people and builders too?

Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Yes. Personally. Loads of educated people, loads of builders and loads of educated builders amongst THEM. But since it no doubt needs clarification for some, note that I said MOST educated people get their news online now. This is a fact. Studies have been carried out about specifically that. I also gave three distinct groups that still read print news and that that only overlap in the manner of a typical Venn diagram. Older people are more likely to get newspapers because they always have and many don’t want to change. Hard fact. Right wingers are more likely to get… Read more »

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

If only right wingers read newspapers how do you account for The Guardian being the best seller?

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Sorry… among the best sellers.. 1% less than the Mail.

Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Because as I mentioned, (and then later clarified for people unable to understand what I wrote EG I didn’t say that only right wingers read newspapers) older people and builders still buy newspapers. Some of them are also left wing.
But because older people trend right wing (75% using Brexit as a proxy) this comment about the Grauniad suggests that builders trend left wing by approximately the same. As I said, I know loads of educated builders.

Last edited 1 month ago by Chris
Llewelyn
Llewelyn
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

There’s no such thing as a hard fact. FACT.

Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Llewelyn

It’s a common parlance phrase. Surprised you haven’t heard of it. The Daily Mail is quite fond of it and use it often. Maybe that subtlety was lost on you. Never mind. The cleverer people probably got it

Llewelyn
Llewelyn
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

I did get it, but maybe the clever people don’t result in low shots and are more well mannered and tactful.

I refer you to my comment below on the subjectiveness of FACTS.

I take it the words won’t be too long for you to comprehend, with you being clever ‘n all.

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Llewelyn

So you DID understand that Hard Facts is a common parlance phrase, but DENIED that any such thing existed? You know what that makes you then? Starts with L and rhymes with buyer.

i saw your little post. Apart from being patently incorrect, what long words are you referring to? Nothing there I didn’t comprehend by the age of 6. I have quite the extensive lexicon. Those words may be pushing the limits of your vocabulary. But not mine

Last edited 1 month ago by #1Chris
#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

BTW “maybe the clever people don’t result in low shots and”
Do you perhaps mean “PERHAPS the clever people don’t RESORT TO low BLOWS”?

Vaughan
Vaughan
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

You “have quite quote the extensive lexicon”
Pretentious? Moi?

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

Oui. Vous!
Still hurting?

Erisian
Erisian
1 month ago
Reply to  Llewelyn

Not heard of mathmatics then?

Llewelyn
Llewelyn
1 month ago
Reply to  Erisian

There’s a difference between philosophical and opiniated fact and a mathematical one. 2 + 2 willalways be 4, and it can be proved as fact. Maths is fairly objective. Opinion on the other hand is just that, opinion and subjective.

Never heard of relative and absolute then?

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Llewelyn

🙄 Mathematics is an exact disicpline. It is not “fairly objective”.
The Hard Facts presented were not “philosophical and opinionated”. They were factual numbers extracted empirically form available data, analysed and the results presented dispassionately.
That YOU had an adverse emotional reaction to those HARD FACTS is irrelevant. Neither Mathematics, nor I care about your feelings.

Last edited 1 month ago by #1Chris
Llewelyn
Llewelyn
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

It was you who went off on a tangent. I defer you to yourself to sort any existential insecurities you have. I didnt throw insults around and my opinions were just that…an opinion.

Mathematics can, under certain circumstances be not an exact discipline. I referer you to complex number and imaginary numbers, both commonly used in industry due to a gap in the exact science of maths. So it can be an unexact discipline.Theres also been lots of formulas that just won’t work.. Just ask a mathematical.

Again, defer to your own anxieties.

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Llewelyn

😄😄😄😄 Ohh your strangulated use of words you don’t know the meaning of makes my eyes hurt.
And your crimes against mathematical theory really should be punished by somebody.
I followed you off on your rambling tangent and could not believe how lost you were.
I shouldn’t laugh I know, but I can’t help it. It’s all just so absurd

Llewelyn
Llewelyn
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

I suggest you put the bottle down. I can smell that cheap Aldi vodka from here.

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Llewelyn

Nope. Not a drinker. Perhaps it’s your own breath.
So you’re done with trying to defending the indefensible now? Just insults? Good. I feel bad that I am amused by your ineptitude. I mean you got what you deserved but it’s not nice seeing somebody humiliating themselves trying to appear clever.

david
david
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

right wingers can’t use the internet! where do you get that from, some left wing website? Can you source your ridiculous ideas.

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  david

Yes. Yes I can.
The statistics are out there. As with all things, the subjects fall on a range. But again and again right wingers are revealed as far less computer literate than those on the left. Just as education levels are higher in left leaning people.
Sorry if you don’t like the facts. But they are there and easy to find by using that “Google” thingy. Perhaps you could find a socialist to help you

Vaughan
Vaughan
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

He know nothing!

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

I was beginning to wonder. Real keyboard warrior.

Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Ooh the right wingers (PYB Vaughan Phil Llewelyn) are ganging up to attack me 😄. The fearful often huddle together for mutual support.
Honestly though chaps and chapesses, it was only a comment about newspapers! Your natural tendency to try and belittle / demean / destroy those who disagree with you is what is turning this into a thing.
As I said yesterday, this is just a video game.
Honestly you would enjoy this more if you simply disagreed with me instead of launching butthurt ad-Homs

Last edited 1 month ago by Chris
Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

Vaughan: “He know nothing”
Me: 🙄 *knows

Vaughan
Vaughan
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

I know how to conjugate the verb “to know” in the present indicative tense but thanks for your kind assistance in matters of grammar nevertheless.
I was merely parodying a well-known character from British comedy. Perhaps others understood the cultural reference.

Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

Oh you mean the racist depiction of a Spanish waiter from the 1970s? Yes, a very topical pop culture reference. Well done. I notice your latest dig coincides with an extra downvote on every one of my posts here. I can’t say I’m “happy” that you are obsessed with “defeating” me in whatever you think this is, but it tells me a lot about you. FYI, psychologically speaking, downvoting is a basic act of spite suggesting you are easy to provoke and that your tendency to grand displays of basic intellect suggests that you want to portray yourself to be… Read more »

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

It wasn’t racist He was a Little Spainer or, if you prefer, a Little Barcelonaer

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Yeah. Clearly it was racist. I know you think your wit is akin to that of Noel Coward. You’re half right and I’m not talking about Noel.
YOU would have voted to send Manuel back to Barcelona. Probably just as well. He would be away from bigots like you.

Last edited 1 month ago by #1Chris
Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

‘Takes one to know one’ so the saying goes

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

More schoolyard “wisdom” there Phil?

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

His surname was Cowerd NOT Coward. I thought that a man with your amazing intellect would have known that.

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

You may want to check again Philbert

Howard Dare
Howard Dare
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

The Spanish have never been a race. This thread started with news consumption! I’m amazed that so many of the comment jockeys are still here. You might have thought they would be in Tokyo, bigoting for Wales. Back to newspapers, you might be surprised to know that some people who vote way left of centre enjoy the feel of a physical daily Telegraph and find its content fascinating. I use it almost exclusively to light the fire. Even though it is often several years old, I find myself saving articles from the flames every day. One of the lovely things… Read more »

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Howard Dare

Racism and xenophobia are considered interchangeable in common parlance and I opted for the shorter one because of who I was addressing.

I enjoyed your post though.

Vaughan
Vaughan
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

Zzzzzz….
Psychobabble!

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

You TYPE snores when you are asleep? Okay, let’s add a desperate need to appear unconcerned to the list and that you try to diminish things which reveal you in an unflattering light.
Anxiety. Emotionally immature. Needs control. Lashes out when challenged. Convinced of his own intellectual superiority. Hmmmmm ….. definitely on the autistic spectrum ….. Got it!. Can I recommend you get tested for Asperger’s Syndrome Vaughan?

Nick
Nick
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

A lot of builders must read The Guardian? The electrician we use has a PhD in epidemiology, I suggested he should be a plumber. He recently moved to Llangollen which is sad for the village.

Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Nick

No doubt many do

Gill Jones
Gill Jones
1 month ago
Reply to  Nick

Never judge a book … or newspaper Chris. One of our labourers in our family building business can be seen enjoying his ‘te deg’ with the newspaper folded, pencil behind ear, doing his daily ‘Times’ crossword! It just proves that judgemental people are the fools!

Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Gill Jones

Oh if only you read my posts all the way through instead of rushing to judge me as judgemental.
I even clarified that I know loads of educated builders. I wasn’t lying. Most of the builders I work with have degrees. A much better indicator of education than liking crosswords.
Yes you are right, the judgemental people ARE the fools. Perhaps you should be less judgemental.

Mark
Mark
1 month ago

English media helps maintain the little englander attitude of all these right wing racist ar**holes

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Mark

That’s a bit of a racist comment! Would you like to be referred to as a Welsh left wing racist ar**hole?

Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

No mate:-

  1. English isn’t a race
  2. Mark referred to racist ar**holes, not English racist ar**holes
  3. The English media is disgusting. This fact says nothing about the English people
  4. Chips should be eaten, not worn as epaulettes.
Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

So ‘little Englanders’ aren’t English? Strange observation.

Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Are you able to read? MY comment says English aren’t a race.
Mark’s comment mentions a Little Englander attitude. This clearly exists. YOU have it. However, it is nowhere implied by the original poster that all English people hold this.
Typical little englander trying to twist facts

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

Suppose you’re happy with Taffy was a Welshman, Taffy was a thief then?

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Obviously not. Though as a Little Englander I am sure you are.
YOU post a slur on ALL Welsh people. Whereas Little Englander does not refer to ALL English people. Just those with an arrogant entitled attitude
“Taffy” (a xenophobic slur on its own) cannot choose that he is Welsh.
The Little Englander, CAN choose to adjust his appalling attitude.
Your false correllation fallacy just highlights again how dishonest you are

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

I was called it many times when I left South Wales to work in Slough back in the 70’s. Learned to live with it. As you said in an earlier post “Chips should be eaten, etc.,

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Yeah. Not humble enough to permit myself to be abused like that. On the rare occasions someone tried I referred to them as Saesy or Nigel. Tended to throw them off. Some didn’t notice as thick people sometimes don’t so I carried on. Some understood like decent people do. Some got indignant in the way that Little Englanders do. From memory one tried to get violent.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

I simply asked you if you were happy with it. I’m not but I wanted your opinion, be it an expert and all that

Llewelyn
Llewelyn
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

Taffy is the worst insult directed to a Gog!!

Glen
Glen
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

“little Englander” is a state of mind.

There are plenty of Welsh “little Englanders”.

Mr Williams
Mr Williams
1 month ago

Thank you that we now have Nation.Cymru. I love this website.

Llewelyn
Llewelyn
1 month ago

477 interviewed were from south east Wales. 1 in Gwynedd

In North Wales we need our own TV and radio channel and for our capital to be near us – St Asaph or Caernarfon.

CapM
CapM
1 month ago
Reply to  Llewelyn

From what I can see on the two questionnaire methods used by Ofcom (from the Ofcom website) neither goes into any greater detail on location than BBC region. Where do you get the 477 :1 Southeast:Gwynedd figures?
Are you making it up?
Are you keen on the partition of Cymru?

Llewelyn
Llewelyn
1 month ago
Reply to  CapM

It was sarcasm. Kind of obvious I wasn’t serious about the numbers.

Yes. Wales has never been a unified country. Of course I would think like that. I’m an awkward Gog.

Last edited 1 month ago by Llewelyn
CapM
CapM
1 month ago
Reply to  Llewelyn

Comments that contain false information that when called out often get a – I was joking – response.
‘Awkward gogs’ don’t all think like you.

Llewelyn
Llewelyn
1 month ago
Reply to  CapM

No but a lot do. Considering you are describing us as the third person maybe your Not in North Wales!

Seriously, on the Balance of properbility my reference of ‘1’ was so absurd it was obviously a joke/dig and meant in a sarcastic way.

Prehaps you know they took “gullibility” out of the dictionary?

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Llewelyn

Can you really be a gog if you live in Shropshire?

Llewelyn
Llewelyn
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

No, considering I live in Llanberis, where all my family are from, and where my great grandparents worked in the quarry.

I take it, your the worst kind of welsh Nationalist. Moved in, and took up the cause no doubt.

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Llewelyn

No you’re not. And no I’m not. Can trace my ancestry right back. The prince whose name you falsely claim, also Rhys ap Gruffudd, Gwenllian ap Gruffydd, Cynan Gwenhir, Arthrwys, Morgan Gam, Hywel Dda, Llyr, Coel even (if you believe the genealogies) Bran, and Beli Mawr.
Far enough back for you Telford boy?

Vaughan
Vaughan
1 month ago
Reply to  Llewelyn

Only 1 from Gwynedd?
That would account for no mention of the Daily Post.

Llewelyn
Llewelyn
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

Daily post, a puppet of South wales on line!

CapM
CapM
1 month ago
Reply to  Llewelyn

Is this a joke or you not knowing.
Daily post and Western Mail are both puppets of Reach plc which publishes dozens of newspapers national and regional including the Expressand Daily Mirror

Llewelyn
Llewelyn
1 month ago
Reply to  CapM

Yes, I do know that. I get reminded every time I go to each website- by having to accept cookies. If you want proper North Walian news , Cambrian news is the better one – and independent.

CapM
CapM
1 month ago
Reply to  Llewelyn

Yet you still chose to mislead with a statement you knew to be untrue..
Looks to me like you’re on a mission to ferment division between north and south Cymru.

Llewelyn
Llewelyn
1 month ago
Reply to  CapM

I don’t need to do that, up in the North its already happening. The national assembly for Cardiff has also acted like a catalyst for it.

Prehaps if publications like this stopped calling us ‘The North of Wales ‘ as if we are like siberia there would be less division.

We are North Wales – Gogledd Cymru!

Llewelyn
Llewelyn
1 month ago
Reply to  CapM

I didn’t mislead.. it was obviously untrue. You have to give readers some credit for being able to distinguish sarcasm from fact.

CapM
CapM
1 month ago
Reply to  Llewelyn

Yet another sarcasm defence.
Why not advance the discussion with accurate information.

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  CapM

He uses it a lot. I don’t think he understands what sarcasm is.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  CapM

They owned their own Trinity Mirror group of newspapers then acquired the Northcliffe Regional Newspapers titles formerly owned by the Daily Mail group.

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
1 month ago

I thought the Guardian did well…try a bit harder to speak up for Wales as a country, rather than the best place to buy a second home and the top spot is there for the taking…

Ann Swindale
Ann Swindale
1 month ago
Reply to  Mab Meirion

As a Guardian reader I am really surprised but pleased that the Guardian came out so well as it’s always the smallest pile in the shop, but perhaps the on- line version has boosted it as there is no paywall and the paid for app is cheaper than the others!

Bruce
Bruce
1 month ago
Reply to  Mab Meirion

The Guardian online at least has a Welsh news section (even if the news in this section isn’t always specifically Welsh or only tenuously so but at least it’s there).

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Bruce

The ‘tenuous’ bit reminds me a little of Nation.Cymru occasionally.

Glen
Glen
1 month ago

Whenever I’m in my local Spar there’s almost always someone of 60+ in front of me buying The Daily Mail, I rarely see people of that age buy any other newspaper.

These are the people we have to thank for inflicting Brexit and Boris on the rest of us.

Pen-y-Bont
Pen-y-Bont
1 month ago
Reply to  Glen

Your sweeping generalisation aside, the over-60s are just as entitled to their political views as you are.

Last edited 1 month ago by Pen-y-Bont
Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Pen-y-Bont

Yes. They have the right to be wrong and about 75% of them (as per Brexit vote breakdown) are very good at that

Nick
Nick
1 month ago
Reply to  Glen

I’ve noticed that most of the Mail readers in the queue in Spar are >55 and they outnumber other newspaper buyers. I can report some good news though, on a Saturday the number FTs in our local Spar’s ordered papers pile has gone from one to two, somebody else likes pink and hates Brexit. 😂😂😂

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Glen

Perhaps you should shop elsewhere if it bothers you greatly.

Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Where do you read that it bothers Nick? That just looks like an observation to me.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

I didn’t read it anywhere. I simply suggested a solution should it be bothering him

Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

So you just implied with no indication from anything anywhere that he was bothered? How dishonest.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

No implication.Just a suggestion. I already told you that but you seem to be so keen to have your little say that you probably didn’t take in fully what you’d just read.

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

You’re not hard to follow Phil. You write at a junior school level.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

Year or two above you then

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Evidently not. Do you next want to claim that your dad could beat my dad up?
You really shouldn’t post when you’re drunk

Last edited 1 month ago by #1Chris
Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

You’re really plumbing the depths of childishness now

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Just following you down. Like pilots did in WWI to confirm the kill 😉
You can make this end you know, but clearly your fragile ego won’t let you.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

You’re the one flinging childish insults about, not me… My tiny ego remains intact

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

So you are trying to deploy the schoolyard “I am rubber, you are glue …” gambit?
Do you need a snack? Is mummy not making you meals during the school holidays?

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

What the devil are you rambling on about now?
Rubber? Glue?
Your medication seems to be wearing off and you’re regressing to your schooldays. You were a lot easier to deal with when your obsession was educated builders, Brexit, the analysis of data surveys and Schroedinger’s cat.
give nursie a call and ask her to increase your medication, PLEASE!

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

I’m coming to the conclusion that you are at risk of electrocution if the dribble from your chin comes into contact with your laptop. That weird all over the place diatribe suggests you have ADHD or something.
FOCUS!

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

So we can add medical diagnoses to your increasing list of talents then?

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Psychological Phil, not medical.
Yes. I’m quite the clever clogs. It’s amazing what you can pick up if you pay attention and are bright.
You should try it.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

If you’re an example of brightness I think I’d prefer to be dim

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Just as well. You get your wish.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

Where did I express a wish? I stated a preference

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Broadly the same thing in this instance

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

In your world, maybe.

Vaughan
Vaughan
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

Psychology?
How appropriate – a pseudo science for a pseud!

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

Looks like my diagnosis was spot on then.
Classic Aspergers Syndrome

Vaughan
Vaughan
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

It’s Asperger’s syndrome.
Or Asperger syndrome.

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

Ooo I missed out an apostrophe! Punishable by hanging?

Vaughan
Vaughan
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

MUMMY SAYS GRAMMAR IS IMPORTANT!
Yes you should be hung. You don’t even speak Welsh

Vaughan
Vaughan
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

That’s not my posting.

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

Agreed. Not pompous enough. But this is getting weird now, so I’m opting out

Gill Jones
Gill Jones
1 month ago
Reply to  Glen

You must be shopping in the wrong place – some of us oldies do buy the Guardian/Observer/Y Cymro. Tho’ I do admit that the Everyman crossword is not of the standard it used be. And no, I didn’t vote for Brexit and certainly not for that idiot, Boris!

j humphrys
j humphrys
1 month ago

87% who follow news are interested in Welsh news.

John Brooks
John Brooks
1 month ago
Reply to  j humphrys

But don’t read, watch or listen to Welsh media, even when it’s in English? Odd result from the survey.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  j humphrys

13% aren’t interested.

Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Incorrect assumption. Aren’t interested or expressed no preference

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

How do you account for the missing 13%?

Chris
Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Do you have comprehension difficulties?
The 13% are made up of Not Interested and Expressed No Preference.
This is how surveys work. Did you not know? False dichotomy questions are not considered credible. (Except in Brexit Referendums of course)

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris

How do you know the mix of not interested and no preference? Maybe, just maybe, all were not interested and none expressed no preference. There you go again thinking you have all the clever answers. Oh, by the way, you keep mentioning Brexit for no apparent reason. Most people have got over it by now and have moved on.

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

100-87=13
The only answers left in any credible poll on this are Not Interested and Did Not Express an Opinion.
What about this very very simple fact are you not understanding?

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

I know that, but you’re assuming that some people did not express an opinion. Maybe they did and that opinion was ‘not interested ‘

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Oh dear! Nope. EVERY survey contains an “expressed no opinion” option. Everybody knows this surely! It was you who assumed that 13% did not care. This is dishonest. Classic misunderstanding of Schroedinger’s Cat by you. The make up of the 13% is not known by the reader because it isn’t presented in the article. You confidently assert incorrectly that ALL of this 13% must be “do not care”. But since the ACTUAL responses of these 13% are not revealed in the article, nor that null responses are excluded, no HONEST person can claim to know how many responded or did… Read more »

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Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

If the respondent doesn’t care enough to even express an opinion then I think it’s safe to assume that their care about the subject is nil.
I shan’t,as you do,resort to insults.
Let’s agree to differ.
Have a good day.

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

There is no “your truth” and “my truth” on this. You don’t know, or refuse to accept how surveys and statistics work. Assumption has no place in statistics.
When the numbers are incomplete you simply state what is known factually.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

So we know, factually, that 13% expressed either no interest of couldn’t be bothered to express an interest, agreed?

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

No. 13% expressed that they weren’t interested in Welsh politics or did not express a preference either way.
Wording is important. “Couldn’t be bothered” is supposition and therefore inadmissable

Last edited 1 month ago by #1Chris
Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

1)…Politics? The story is about where the public to for their news, not politics.
2) I repeat.. If you don’t express an interest then you’re clearly disinterested.
So… Disinterested, not interested, not bothered either way..
i think you’re being pedantic for the sake of it

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Your ADHD is kicking in again. That post was utter nonsense.
But there was something useful in it.
The petulant unwillingness to concede you are wrong on even a minor point despite the facts tells me with a 0% chance of error, that you were an only child. Mummy’s special little boy.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

My brothers and sisters would disagree with you there!

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Imaginary friends don’t count as brothers and sisters Phil. I do hope you don’t have HPPD

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

Rest assured. I don’t.

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Just what someone with HPPD might say

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

I suppose I might have said it were I a sufferer, but I’m not, so I didn’t.
Tell me, your seem an expert on health and mental wellbeing matters.. Do you know If there’s an illness that forces internet posters to make snide, rude and derogatory comments in their messages?
I would say that I’m asking on behalf of a friend but you’d tell me that I have no friends so I won’t.

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Yes. You SAY that but …

Health and mental wellbeing matters? I’m not in HR! Did you mean an expert in mental illness? Not an expert by any means, but more knowledgeable than most on the topic, pretty astute and enjoying your bombastic rage.

Oh yes, no such illness exists. Like so many of your posts, you made it up.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

Well you’re obviously suffering some sort of mental issue.. You can’t read a topic or someone’s comment without making one of your ‘outrageously knowledgable pronouncements or some fatuous remark in an attempt to belittle the poster’s view.

Llewelyn
Llewelyn
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

What a pair! Suppose this is what lack of jobs delivers.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Llewelyn

Did my 52 years and would probably still be working weekends if not for Covid.
This banter is far more fun than work!

Vaughan
Vaughan
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

The work that you don’t do?
It’s a pastime for sure, but if this is more fun than your work, you probably should have worked harder in Special School.
But that’s unfair of me. Maybe the HPPD meant that responsible, interesting jobs were not available to you.

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

Jesus Vaughan. That’s a bit harsh! Yes Phil is obsolete, but you didn’t need to wade into him like that. Did you get confused and think you were talking to me?

Pen-Y-Bont
Pen-Y-Bont
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

Oh shut up lefty. You are always being mean

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

Another clown

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

EXCUSE ME VAUGHAN?! I’ll have you know I fought in the war for the likes of you. You would be speaking Suez language if it wasn’t for me! I thought we were friends attacking Chris together

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Moderator. I demand you take down this post. It isn’t me. It is someone pretending to be me.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Very funny, whoever you are! As they used to say in all the good westerns “You should be on the stage”. “There’s one leaving town in 5 minutes”

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

self obsessed clown

Vaughan
Vaughan
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

That’s not me.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

Clown.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

Silly! Might even be true!… But you’ll never know!

Vaughan
Vaughan
1 month ago
Reply to  Llewelyn

Hi Llew, unlike Phil here, I am still a contributing member of society. He may need something to do to fill the time until the peace of the grave, as all the obsolete do. But I continue to be a hard working contributing, relevant member of society.
But I work on computers so a few seconds here or there on this forum is no burden on my day.
Especially watching pompous old Boomers losing their S**t

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

This is not me. It is a wokist marxist snowflake trying to slander me

Vaughan
Vaughan
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

I didn’t post this

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

You lot have gone weird. I’m out!

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

To bogus Vaughan: I may now be obsolete but at least I retired young enough to enjoy my state pension! .. You’ll probably have to keep slaving until you’re almost 80 then as your first DWP payment drops into your bank account you’ll expire from old age and exhaustion, never experiencing a decent senior moment of enjoyment.
Best of luck with it!

Bogus Vaughan
Bogus Vaughan
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

What did I do? Nothing to do with me!

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Bogus Vaughan

Touched a raw nerve with that one, did I?

All The Young People of Wales
All The Young People of Wales
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

And you wonder why nobody likes Baby Boomers. Gloating about feeding off the system you ruined for those of us who come after.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago

Hey, bogus joker.. I’ve always paid my taxes, declaring all freelance earnings and paid all my dues. Never fiddled a penny, ( adjusts halo ).
I lived when milk was delivered in glass bottles, not plastic, same with bread deliveries.. no plastic wrapping for me For me if it was avoidable, it’s your generation that’s wrecking your future, not us oldies, so cut the smartass crap.. I’ve done all that’s been asked of me.. can you say the same?

All The Young People of Wales
All The Young People of Wales
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

What are you ranting on about? Until you became obsolete it was your generation introducing all the plastic, and stole our parents free milk. We’ve just left school or are still in school. How dare you blame us for your greed and selfishness. Has any generation hated it’s own descendants as much as the spoiled pampered Baby Boomers?

Bogus Joker
Bogus Joker
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Do you have Alzheimer’s? I haven’t written anything on this car crash

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago

Nobody likes them??… I do!

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Vaughan

Yet another, but more probably the same clown.

Nick
Nick
1 month ago
Reply to  j humphrys

Even in Angola?

Crwtyn Cemais
Crwtyn Cemais
1 month ago

Mae e’n ystadegyn digalonnus ond nid yn un annisgwyl ~ It’s a disheartening statistic but not an unexpected one.

Paul Hoskins
Paul Hoskins
1 month ago

This is just too depressing, and explains much about prevalent social attitudes in Cymru.

david
david
1 month ago

the mail has some good articles in it but i prefer the telegraph for a broader range of interesting articles. GB News is now worth a watch now that Nigel Farage has joined the team after sacking Guto Harry – good riddance!

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  david

Yes those “news”papers cover the whole political spectrum from far right all the way to extreme far right.

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago

There are lots of bogus and sometimes quite humerous posts down the bottom of this page that are attributed to me. If it’s that easy to impersonate a genuine contributor then I’m out of here. G’bye everyone, especially Chris.

Everyone
Everyone
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

No no Phil, please don’t go. What will we ever do without you patronising us all?

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  Everyone

Oh, alright then, I’ll reconsider.
Right, I’ve re-thought… I’m off!

Everyone
Everyone
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Okay if you feel that’s best. But we thought you had already gone. Did you want some applause? Here you go
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

Eh? Yeah alright. See you

Phil Davies
Phil Davies
1 month ago
Reply to  #1Chris

See me? ? No you won’t. I may be old, but i’m too fast and smart for you pal!

#1Chris
#1Chris
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil Davies

I can live with that. Don’t have an aneurysm

Raoul Hodgson
Raoul Hodgson
12 days ago

We worry about a “media deficit” in terms of Welsh-based and focussed news, but it doesnt help that people in Wales generally turn to Pan-British sources when given a choice. Although to be fair, the WalesOnline format is terrible, it does not at all look like the website for Wales’s “national newspaper”. I have starting picking up the National and find it a solid read, hopefully it continues to grow.

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