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Labour AM calls for urgent inquiry into party’s Carmarthen East candidate

17 Nov 2019 2 minutes Read
Alun Davies AM. Picture by the National Assembly. (CC BY 2.0)

Labour Assembly Member Alun Davies has called for an urgent inquiry by the Labour party into their candidate in Carmarthen East and Dinefwr.

Maria Carroll, who is challenging Plaid Cymru MP Jonathan Edwards in the seat, was alleged in the Daily Mail to have run a secret Facebook group which advises members how to avoid expulsion from the party.

According to the paper, some of those who joined the group had posted content denying the holocaust elsewhere on the site.

The paper alleges that the group Labour Party Compliance: Suspensions, Expulsions, Rejections Co-Op advised more than one Labour Party member who had posted such content.

Maria Carroll told the Daily Mail that she had not seen the posts referred to, which were not posted in the Facebook group that she ran.

Alun Davies, who represents Blaenau Gwent in the Senedd, called for an inquiry into the matter.

“I trust that Welsh Labour will lead an urgent inquiry into this,” he said. “And report before polling day.”

 

‘Withdraw’

Positif Politics director Daran Hill said that it was the first time that serious accusations of antisemitism had been made within Welsh Labour.

“Until now Welsh Labour has remained pretty untouched by charges of antisemitic behaviour,” he said.

“A key issue now is to what extent was Welsh Labour involved in the actual candidate selection and, most particularly, what vetting was undertaken by Welsh General Secretary Louise Magee.

“This can’t just be painted as an English problem any more.”

Jonathan Edwards called on Labour to withdraw their support for Maria Carroll pending the result of an investigation.

“Antisemitism is racism pure and simple,” he said.

“The Labour party should remove official support for their candidate in Carmarthen East and Dinefwr pending an investigation into these very serious allegations.”

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Dave Brooker
Dave Brooker
1 year ago

Bit of a non story, women runs FB page, some subscribers post suspect stuff elsewhere on FB, women gets blamed by political opponents.

Presumably pliad are worried she might win?

Meanwhile Wales is falling apart

Huw Davies
Huw Davies
1 year ago
Reply to  Dave Brooker

It will definitely fall apart if major parties rely on shipping candidates into the region. Try getting a candidate from the ranks of local Labour activists – or is this an admission that they are rare, possibly non-existent ?

Griff
Griff
1 year ago
Reply to  Dave Brooker

Dave you obviously didn’t read the posting. The matter was raised by her own party and not her opponents.

Dave Brooker
Dave Brooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Griff

(non) story quotes Jonerthan Edwards.

HTH

Leigh Richards
Leigh Richards
1 year ago
Reply to  Dave Brooker

Wales is ‘falling apart’….and which party has been in power in Wales for the last 20 years?

Ben Davies
Ben Davies
1 year ago
Reply to  Dave Brooker

It’s funny you blame plaid, it was a member of her own party that reported her, labour as divided as ever no wonder they cant win.

Eos Pengwern
1 year ago

It’s been getting boring to hear Plaid Cymru people making completely unfounded accusations of racism against Gwlad, while both they and Welsh Labour have turned a blind eye to the open antisemitism of the English Labour Party. We want no racism of any sort in Wales, so it’s encouraging to see both Plaid and Welsh Labour addressing this issue at last.

Dave Brooker
Dave Brooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Eos Pengwern

Is this where perfectly justified anti Israel sentiment is confused with anti-Semitism?

Eos Pengwern
1 year ago
Reply to  Dave Brooker

If Israel is held to different standards from other nations, just because it’s Israel, then that’s antisemitic. If people criticise Israel for things they don’t criticise, say, Saudi Arabia, Iran, or China for, then they’re being antisemitic.

Dave Brooker
Dave Brooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Eos Pengwern

Murdering people, ethnic cleansing and land appropriation is okay in some circumstances????

You nationalists have some strange heros.

Huw Davies
Huw Davies
1 year ago
Reply to  Dave Brooker

You talking about China’s invasion of Tibet, its treatment of the Muslim Yugurs of Xinjiang, Saudi’s proxy “cleansing” of the Yemen, Iran’s propensity to interfere in already unstable Middle East countries as a way of conducting its “war” with USA ? Obviously not. And I haven’t yet questioned your carefully omitted stance on the highly questionable military activities of USA and its little pal the UK. By all means criticise Israel for its aggression but apply the same moral judgements nearer home and elsewhere overseas. Thus far you seem to be seriously myopic about Wales and now Israel has crept… Read more »

Leigh Richards
Leigh Richards
1 year ago
Reply to  Dave Brooker

Er no it’s where people in the labour party have denied the holocaust took place or where they have alleged the world is run by a ‘international Jewish conspiracy’ involving figures like the rothschilds and George Soros.

Maybe Dave Brooker you are one of those people who thinks the Holocaust was a hoax? Or perhaps you subscribe to the view that Jews secretly control everything?

It would certainly explain your repeated attempts to try and trivialise the very serious allegations of anti semitism against this labour candidate

Dave Brooker
Dave Brooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Leigh Richards

I don’t think any of those things.

However I’m not convinced by the almost casual use of branding ones political adverseries anti-Semitic for being critical of Israel’s undoubted crimes.

But there we are.

Rhosddu
Rhosddu
1 year ago
Reply to  Dave Brooker

I hope not, but wouldn’t be surprised if the two are being confused. Condemnation of Israel’s apartheid policy against Palestinians is not anti-semitism. Couldn’t care less about their race, personally. It’s the systematic destruction of one nation by another that’s the issue.

Royston Jones
1 year ago

It seems pretty obvious she’s not local. She is an ally of Corbyn. Reasonable therefore to assume she was selected in London. And ‘Welsh’ Labour went along with it.

Huw Davies
Huw Davies
1 year ago
Reply to  Royston Jones

Lives at Cilycwm or thereabouts, the sort of nice idyllic place that’s a magnet for Anglo supremacist trash looking to “get away from it all” before jumping back onto the Londoncentric bandwagon. No doubt the headcases at Labour H.Q picked this one, after all what’s wrong with a Jew-hating female probably working in the 3rd sector ? Ticks all the boxes for modern Labour.

Royston Jones
1 year ago
Reply to  Huw Davies

Yes, I noticed the third sector background. It’s like a conveyor belt for Labour Party candidates. One Labour keeps well greased.

Christopher Sayer
Christopher Sayer
1 year ago
Reply to  Huw Davies

Jeez Huw, you certainly seem keen on sweeping stereotypes for one so worried about racism. Good job the English aren’t a race…

Don’t know Maria well but I think she might run a village shop (though doubtlessly in an ‘Anglosupremicist manner)…

Dave Brooker
Dave Brooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Royston Jones

Which one isn’t?

We got Jane Dodds, who would appear to be from teddington and from a third sector background, up against some Tory political advisor from Cardiff, and ousted Chris Davis trying his luck in Anglesey.

Seems to be the norm that’s it’s random career political sorts dropped in to Welsh seats they have no connection to.

Gareth
Gareth
1 year ago
Reply to  Dave Brooker

Jane Dodds was born in Wrexham, was living in Welshpool when seletced for B&R now lives in Hay.
Prior to being an MP she was a social worker – hardly the third sector

Dave Brooker
Dave Brooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Gareth

“Ms Dodds previously worked for the Salvation Army

Her political career started in 2006 when she was elected as one of three councillors in the North Richmond ward of Richmond upon Thames in London but lost her seat in 2010.

She then stood in 2015 and 2017 for the Liberal Democrats in the seat of Montgomeryshire”

L M
L M
1 year ago

What rubbish … That group was set up in 2016 to assist suspended members through the investigation process by helping to write letters of appeal, make subject access requests and prepare documents for the hearing. In the UK a person is innocent until proven guilty, were that not the case, anyone could be accused of anything with no recourse. Do solicitors, barristers or paralegals get hounded for representing people accused of something? No they do not. Irrespective of what the accused were ultimately found to have done by the National Constitutional Committee, that does not mean that they are not… Read more »

A Prophecy is Buried in Eglwyseg
A Prophecy is Buried in Eglwyseg
1 year ago

Radical Leftism has since the 1840s been a cult bred in ignorance and the worship of poverty with devils painted in the forms of bankers and Jews.

While moderates do not control Labour, this cult filth will always return. It exists even in the fringes of Plaid Cymru’s radical Left, it’s just that Plaid are so small it will never go noticed.

L M
L M
3 months ago

Extract from e mail sent to Maria Carroll from Mail on Sunday:
In circumstances where we have accepted that the Article contained defamatory statements without the need for litigation or appointment of an arbitrator, have voluntarily removed the Article from our website, and are attempting in good faith to agree an appropriate correction, we consider that our offer of £XX000 is appropriate. However, in order to resolve this matter in an amicable and timely manner, we are willing to increase that offer to a total of £XX000. We trust this will be acceptable.

Correction here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/article-9130777/Clarifications-corrections.html

L M
L M
3 months ago
Reply to  L M

No one pays out a significant 5 figure sum in damages if they’ve done nothing wrong

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