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Llywydd tells off Welsh Tory MS for using inappropriate language in the Senedd

17 Sep 2021 3 minutes Read
Gareth Davies and Elin Jones

The Llywydd has told off a Welsh Tory MS for using inappropriate language in the Senedd.

Elin Jones slapped down Gareth Davies, who represents the Vale of Clwyd, after he used the word “damn” in the legislative chamber.

She told him that “language of that nature” is not used in the Welsh Parliament.

After watching the debate constituent Bob Lloyd and Labour member said: “Another day in the Senedd and another soul-destroying intervention from Gareth Davies MS. When he speaks like this, he embarrasses all of us in the Vale of Clwyd. It’s just humiliating.”

Davies was asking Finance Minister Rebecca Evans, how the Welsh Government would use funds raised by the UK Government by imposing a higher tax on National Insurance and putting a levy on dividends.

The Tory Prime Minister Boris Johnson has announced Wales will receive a share of extra money from a UK-wide hike of 1.25% in National Insurance.

But he added that the additional money from the hike would legally have to be spent in the way the Westminster government decides.

Gareth Davies said: “Thanks to the actions of the UK Government, Wales will get more than its fair share of the additional national insurance contributions.

“The additional levy on NI and dividends have been ring-fenced for health and social care spending.

“How will the Welsh Government ensure that the £0.7 billion that Wales will receive as a result of the UK Government’s funding reforms will make it to front-line services?

“Do you believe that the funding raised via the social care levy should by hypothecated and not form part of the revenue support grant given to local authorities?

‘Damn well’ 

“You’ve been calling for extra funds, and now you’ve got them, it’s high time that you damn well get on with it and set out your plans for social care, because you’ve not done thus far.

Elin Jones rebuked him for his use of language, saying: “We don’t use language of that nature, really.”

Gareth Davies replied: “We do. We do. We do.”

Elin Jones replied: “No, you don’t. Okay. Answer the substantive points of the question, please, Minister.”

Finance Minister Rebecca evans said: “I will, and I’ll inform the Member that Wales actually doesn’t get more than its fair share; on a good day we get our fair share.

“I’m very interested that the Member seems to be opposed to the funding that Wales gets as a result of our unique social and economic position, and the negotiations that the First Minister previously did, to ensure that Wales had its fair share in terms of Barnett consequentials.

“But if you think Wales is getting its fair share when we get nothing when Northern Ireland gets a £1 billion bung, then I really don’t understand whether you’re fighting for the UK Government here or whether you’re fighting for your constituents.”

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Stephen Morris
1 month ago

Why quote Bob Lloyd, specifically? What has he to do with this, and who cares what he thinks?

William Glyn THOMAS
William Glyn THOMAS
1 month ago

“Damn” is rather mild in comparison to some vocabulary that is used by many these days. Standards have to be set at some acceptable level. There is too much “Gutter language” tolerated these days and it needs to be stopped.

Remember “Tory” is a four-letter word.

Hannergylch
Hannergylch
1 month ago

“Tory” is from the Irish Gaelic “tóraidhe”, meaning “outlaw”. It got its modern meaning when protestant parliamentarians used it to describe Jacobite parliamentarians who were willing to have a Roman Catholic as king. Later, the sectarian element of Toryism shifted slightly, and modern Tories require that the UK’s head of state be Anglican.

hdavies15
hdavies15
1 month ago

Tory thinks that Senedd Government might not spend money “wisely”. He’s been watching Boris and Co recently and their antics can arouse all sorts of concerns and fears that wasteful spending can be contagious.

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
1 month ago

In my opinion. Just being a “Welsh”Tory warrants expulsion from the Senedd chamber in-perpetuity.

Stephen Morris
1 month ago
Reply to  Y Cymro

That’s the voters’ prerogative and theirs alone. No-one’s stopping them. Personally I’d be all for it.

Mr Williams
Mr Williams
1 month ago

Well things the WG certainly won’t waste the money on spray-painting a plane, investigating the pipe dream possibility of tunnels under the Irish Sea, renewing nuclear weapons, Brexit advertising, an over-priced HS2 railway etc. etc. etc. People in glass houses, Gareth Davies …….

Mr Williams
Mr Williams
1 month ago
Reply to  Mr Williams

* on are

j humphrys
j humphrys
1 month ago
Reply to  Mr Williams

Next, more submarines to the South China Sea?

Richard
Richard
1 month ago

I do t care a ‘ dam ‘ about GDs use of the word – like I’m sure the vast majority in our constituency. We want our local member – to fight our corner, stand up for us 100 per cent of the time….nothing else .. The role of Y Llywydd is important and the usually very fair Elin on this occasion needs perhaps to give so more thought 💭 in seeing her referee role resonates with those of us here in Rhyl, Prestatyn, Denbigh, St Asaph and Rhuddlan in 2021…. No swearing , profane , racist and sexist language… Read more »

j humphrys
j humphrys
1 month ago
Reply to  Richard

Sodom.

Richard
Richard
1 month ago
Reply to  j humphrys

Not referring to Rhyl I hope John 😂

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