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Not fair that England decides whether we can spend money say Welsh, Scottish and Northern Ireland governments

13 Jan 2022 5 minutes Read
Finance Ministers Kate Forbes, Conor Murphy and Rebecca Evans. Photo by Welsh Government.

The governments of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland have united to say that it is not fair that it is decisions in England that decide whether they have freedom to spend money on Covid and mitigate the cost of living crisis.

The finance ministers of all three semi-autonomous governments united to put out a joint statement saying that the UK Government needed to give them more funding flexibility to tackle crises in their own nations.

In the joint statement, Scotland’s finance minister said that it was “not tenable for funding only to be triggered by public health decisions in England” and that a system as required that was “not beholden to the decisions of one part of the UK”.

The finance ministers met with the Chief Secretary to the UK Treasury yesterday to push for a guarantee that money allocated to support the Covid responses will be provided in full, after the Treasury said that they might ask for it back unless similar money is spent in England.

Last month, as a result of spending in England, the Treasury announced it would provide additional funding to tackle Covid, with the Scottish Government allocated £440 million, the Welsh Government £270 million, and the Northern Ireland Executive £150 million.

But the other national governments are concerned they may not be granted permission to carry over into next year’s budgets any late consequential payments – despite this flexibility being provided in 2021/22.

The finance ministers said the Treasury should provide support to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland if the public health situation in each nation demands it, not just when the assistance is applied in England.

Rebecca Evans, the Welsh Government Finance Minister, said that they needed o see “urgent action from the Treasury to help people with rising bills and living costs”.

“Domestic energy prices are of particular concern at the moment with more and more people living in fuel poverty,” she said. “This winter the Welsh Government invested £51 million in our Household Support Fund to help households, but most of the powers and the fiscal resources needed to address the cost-of-living crisis are in the UK government’s hands.

“The Treasury must step up. Additional support through targeted UK-wide schemes such as the Warm Home Discount and other winter fuel payments would lessen the burden on hard pressed households.

“Arrangements for Covid funding also need to change. Last month, as the omicron variant took hold, the Treasury hesitated before providing Wales with funding to meet the challenges. When funding did come, we received no guarantee that it would not need to be returned.

“The Treasury must recognise the importance of fully supporting devolved nations to help protect our businesses and protect our populations.”

‘Hugely concerning’

The national governments are also urging the Treasury to do more to support households facing a cost-of-living crisis. In October, the UK government withdrew the £20-a-week uplift to Universal Credit, a cut that was opposed by all three devolved nations. Last month it was confirmed that inflation had risen to 5.1% – the highest rate in a decade – with increasingly expensive food, transport and clothing contributing to higher household bills.

Powers to help households meet the cost of living lie mainly with the UK government, and the three finance ministers in the devolved nations are calling on the Treasury to step up and deliver more support to households.

Scottish Government Finance and Economy Secretary Kate Forbes said that she welcomed today’s discussion and the constructive approach taken by all parties.

“However, along with the other devolved administrations, the Scottish Government remains concerned that the additional funding we have received to mitigate the impact of the Omicron variant may be subject to future deductions,” she said.

“Without the ability to borrow, the continuing uncertainty could have a substantial damaging impact on our COVID response and impact our ability to support public services in Scotland.

“More fundamentally, the situation highlights once again that it is not tenable for funding only to be triggered by public health decisions in England. A system is required that supports the decisions of each devolved administration and is not beholden to the decisions of one part of the UK.

“The Scottish Government has set out a range of ambitious actions – within our limited resources, to support households and reduce inequalities, including our commitment to double the game-changing Scottish Child Payment to £20 per child per week.

“But we are facing a cost of living crisis and the UK Government, which reduced the lifeline Universal Credit uplift in October despite our representations, must now urgently intervene.”

Conor Murphy, Minister of Finance, Northern Ireland Executive, said that the “uncertainty” surrounding the Covid funding provided by Treasury was “unhelpful”.

“It is also hugely concerning that Treasury may not permit funding to be carried into next year even if additional funding is confirmed at such a late stage that it prevents it being used most effectively,” he said.

“We have been calling on Treasury to reinstate the Self Employed Income Support Scheme and furlough scheme on a targeted basis where necessary. It is disappointing that Treasury is unwilling to provide support to workers and their families. We would ask Treasury to urgently reconsider this position.

“The cost of living crisis is causing hardship for families and businesses. I’ve been calling on Treasury to suspend VAT on energy bills temporarily to provide reprieve during the difficult winter period. It is time for Treasury to act now.”


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Gareth Wyn Jones
Gareth Wyn Jones
5 months ago

We are shackled to Westminster like a slave in the hold of mr Colston’s ships

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
5 months ago

I disagree. The language Gareth Wyn Jones used was appropriate. It doesn’t lessen the act of slavery, be it African or other. Countries can be enslaved too. See Act of Union Wales 1535-1543.

Dim problem
Dim problem
5 months ago

Congrats Gareth, your statement is both utter rubbish and also deeply racist.

Grayham Jones
5 months ago

The UK is finished It now time for Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 and Ireland 🇮🇪 To be independent it’s time for a new wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Dafydd
Dafydd
5 months ago
Reply to  Grayham Jones

wow you managed to give Wales at least 1 capital W today! Keep it up!

Grayham Jones
5 months ago

We in wales must get the people in your town’s out voting for new wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 We are in control to start fighting for a new wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Dafydd
Dafydd
5 months ago
Reply to  Grayham Jones

Grayham … for goodness sake…take a little time this morning to add capital W’s to all references to Wales …. before you do any more CTRL C’s & CTRL V’s….

Padi Phillips
Padi Phillips
5 months ago
Reply to  Dafydd

He could also eliminate the uneccessary and incorrect possessive apostrophes frequently appearing in his comments.

Dafydd
Dafydd
5 months ago

I can see Kate Forbes as a Prime Minister of Scotland – some time in the late 2020’s or early 2030’s.

Gaynor Jones
Gaynor Jones
5 months ago

Thought it was a slimmed down Piers Morgan in the middle

Steve Duggan
Steve Duggan
5 months ago

Since devolution we’ve seen a big shift in the political view points of the Celtic nations with England. As England is a more conservative and wealthier country it cares less for the less well off than in the more left wing facing poorer Celtic countries. These countries on the periphery of the British isles have suffered for centuries because of this. It is now time for change we would be far better off outside the UK.

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
5 months ago

Europe never said how Wales should spend any structural funding it received but Whitehall & England does? I know who the real dictators are, and it’s not Brussels or Strasbourg. Can you imagine the same Brexit mindset that argued how the EU were faceless unelected bureaucrats who forced rules & regulations on Britain would say if England was told how to spend its money. They’d go rabid. What a bloody nerve! And may I suggest that instead of the English Conservatives poking their noses into our financial affairs should look their own first the next time they “gather” and have… Read more »

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
5 months ago

If that was an attempt of humour, failed miserably.

The Welsh pay tax into the UK Treasury too. And as Brexiteers often quoted regarding EU funding. It’s only our money coming back.

Last edited 5 months ago by Y Cymro
GW Atkinson
GW Atkinson
5 months ago

Set up a Celtic union where we all band together against Westminster then. But this time, on an equal basis because the UK one is just occupation.

GW Atkinson
GW Atkinson
5 months ago

If the English subsidise us as much as they claim, we may as well keep all our taxes in our country then.

GW Atkinson
GW Atkinson
5 months ago

I’m guessing your sign in is in English not Welsh, because you are dim and a problem.

Barry Pandy
Barry Pandy
5 months ago

Because of course, the people of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are completely exempt from paying any sort of tax whatsoever. In fact, I don’t know why more people from England don’t move here, they wouldn’t have to pay income tax, national insurance, VAT, council tax or any type of tax. Come to think of it, maybe that’s why so many English people retire here, when they finally kick the bucket they are completely exempt from inheritance tax. The same goes for business, they could all base themselves here and be exempt from corporation tax. Who needs an offshore tax… Read more »

Steve Duggan
Steve Duggan
5 months ago

Westminster still believes it has complete control of the UK and doesn’t fully recognise the devolved governments. It’s still in colonial mode. There are no benefits to being in the UK any more for any of the Celtic nations, if there ever was.

Leigh Richards
Leigh Richards
5 months ago

A wholly unfair situation – with the solution being independence for Scotland and Wales and the reunification of the 6 counties with the rest of Ireland

Dafydd B
Dafydd B
5 months ago

So we do not pay tax is what you are saying

Dim problem
Dim problem
5 months ago
Reply to  Dafydd B

We pay less in tax than our Government spends. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

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