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YesCymru can’t complain about 100 foot Union Jack ‘while putting stickers everywhere’ says Tory MP

07 Jul 2021 2 minutes Read
David T.C. Davies. Picture by Richard Townshend (CC BY 3.0). YesCymru sticker by Stefanik (CC BY-SA 4.0).

YesCymru can’t complain about the UK Government placing a 100 foot Union Jack on their own building while putting stickers everywhere, a Tory MP has said.

In a call with journalists, Monmouth’s David Davies shot back when asked about a petition against covering a tax office in Cardiff with an enormous 100-ft high Union Jack, which has now received well over 13,000 signatures.

“The petition I understand is being pushed by Yes Cymru and I’m frankly sick of seeing Yes Cymru stickers being placed all over signs and buildings in Wales,” he said in comments recorded by the Western Mail.

“If they want the moral high ground they should remember we applied for planning permission for our flag. When they want to start applying for planning permission for all the stickers they’re posting illegally then they might have some grounds for a discussion but right now they haven’t.”

‘Blatant’

The petition by YesCymru calls on the Chair of Cardiff Council Planning Committee, Cllr Keith Jones, to reverse the decision to give the huge flag the go-ahead.

The petition states: “We believe that as the capital city of Wales, visitors, commuters and residents should not be faced with a gigantic Union Jack flag on arrival at Cardiff Central railway station.

“This decision by Cardiff Council Planning Committee to grant permission to drape the HMRC building on Central Square is an act of political symbolism designed to promote ‘muscular unionism’ a reminder to the people of Wales of their subservient status in the United Kingdom.

“This flag does not represent the people of Wales and is a blatant political act designed to act as a provocation to the people of Wales.

“We the undersigned call on the Cardiff Council Planning Committee, and its chair Councillor Keith Jones, to withdraw their permission for this advertisement.”

The prominent branding comes amid a move towards “muscular unionism” by Boris Johnson’s government, which has also recently ruled the Union Jack must be flown above the Welsh flag and ordered civil servants to stop referring to “the four nations of the UK.”

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Chris
Chris
22 days ago

Yes it can. One is an apolitical movement specifically campaigning for self-rule. The other is a big ugly sphincter – symbol of an oppressive “muscular unionism” designed to put us “bally welshies” in our place. The childish petulant comment about Yes Cymru not getting planning permission for its stickers:- You don’t need planning permission to put up stickers you oaf! Even if you were dumb enough to insist on it, a sticker would be classed as temporary (or a temporary structure in planning parlance) and would therefore be exempt from planning restrictions. “when they apply for planning permission for all… Read more »

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Ex Plaid member
Ex Plaid member
22 days ago

David T.C. Davies, a M.P., who according to 2 other members of the Welsh Affairs Select committee, believes that aliens visit earth. I thought they were joking until he tired to explain the benefits of Brexit to me using a tea cup as an example.

Nick Randall-Smith
Nick Randall-Smith
22 days ago

Oh please do enlighten us all by recounting Mr Davies’ explanation, I am struggling to find any benefit in BREXIT. Does he read tea leaves? Can he read runes and goat entrails too?

Chris
Chris
22 days ago

Surely the Tories are evidence that aliens do visit earth. How many Tories do you know that can present believeably as human? Sayeeda Warsi and Oliver Letwin for example are fine people.
But Gove, Retweet, Johnson, Hancock, Priti Evil, Dominic “Johnny Karate” Raab, Jamie the Pimp, Rob The Predator? Definitely crash landed on Earth in the idiot ship

Gari Tryfan
Gari Tryfan
21 days ago

How can the Tories not believe in aliens

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j humphrys
j humphrys
21 days ago
Reply to  Gari Tryfan

Everyone move to the other side of the ship!

Nick Randall-Smith
Nick Randall-Smith
22 days ago

YesCymru is funded by its membership (incl. me) whilst this huge flag is funded by general taxation (incl. me). If I objected to YesCymru’s stickers I wouldn’t pay the subs but I can’t refuse to pay the tax to fund for this huge Union Flag tea towel. Or am I completely wrong and this huge flag is being paid for out of Tory Party funds?

Kerry Davies
Kerry Davies
22 days ago

“… we applied for planning permission for our flag…”
So it is a Conservative flag then? Nice to have that confirmed.

Nick Randall-Smith
Nick Randall-Smith
22 days ago
Reply to  Kerry Davies

I noticed that too. I’m subsidising the Tory party with my taxes?

CJPh
CJPh
22 days ago

Meh. Party of government. Government project. Government of the UK. Of course, that isn’t what he meant, but there’s some steel man-ing.

Mark
Mark
22 days ago

you already subsidise the tories via your bbc license fee and buying products from any other business that donate into tory coffers

j humphrys
j humphrys
22 days ago
Reply to  Kerry Davies

DID they now? Someone please find out!

Dewi Davies
Dewi Davies
22 days ago

Notice how he said”Our flag”.
Looks like the Yes Cymru movement and all the visible stickers are starting to become a thorn in the Westminster elites side.Long may it continue.

Syn Polski
Syn Polski
22 days ago

In occupied Poland between 1939 and 1945, the unpleasant flag of the occupying power was everywhere.

The Polish resistance used the symbol known as the kotwica (an anchor designed on the letters PW to stencil on walls beneath.

Bloody Poles. How dare they?

Kerry Davies
Kerry Davies
22 days ago
Reply to  Syn Polski
Fi ydy o
Fi ydy o
21 days ago
Reply to  Syn Polski

Yes but the difference is that democratic routes to independence have not been exhausted. I would sympathise with illegal fly-posting in Scotland, where the SNP have a democratic mandate for a (second) referendum but this has been blocked by Westminster. However in Wales, the people have not even come close to electing a Senedd majority in favour of independence. Once it has actually reached the stage that the Welsh Government have formally requested an independence referendum and the UK government have said no, then there would be moral justification for some kinds of peaceful direct action. Until then, your comparison… Read more »

j humphrys
j humphrys
21 days ago
Reply to  Syn Polski

Get Brexit done. Take Back Control. Sticks in the mind, eh?
So does * YES CYMRU *.

Nick Randall-Smith
Nick Randall-Smith
22 days ago

Name three countries in Europe that are outside the EU, have reactionary governments and adore big flags? Turkey Byelorussia and Great Britain (notice I didn’t use United Kingdom).

Gari Tryfan
Gari Tryfan
21 days ago

I just use the British State…it includes NI

Dyn Cwm Rhymni
Dyn Cwm Rhymni
22 days ago

I know where they could stick their 100ft Union Jack. Clue… Does dim haul yno.

Gari Tryfan
Gari Tryfan
21 days ago
Reply to  Dyn Cwm Rhymni

Ymmmm… 🤔🤔🤔… ga’i weld…wn i… bol buwch 😏

Mr Williams
Mr Williams
22 days ago

If David Davies is sick of seeing the stickers, he now knows how we feel when we are told to support England in football, constantly called ‘England-and-Wales’ (which I’m sure our English friends are sick of too), constantly told to accept a flag which doesn’t represent us, no Welsh team at the Olympics etc. etc. etc. ….

Stephen Owen
Stephen Owen
22 days ago

I don’t think it is Yes Cymru as an organisation that places stickers but individuals 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Theresa Green
Theresa Green
22 days ago
Reply to  Stephen Owen

Very likely, but “the organisation” should condemn and disown any of its members that are responsible for illegally posting these stickers.

CJPh
CJPh
22 days ago

I’m uncertain that the sticker thing helps us that much, seems a tad studenty to me. There are plenty of unengaged, apathetic and indy curious people who have expressed that they’re ‘everywhere’ and an ‘eyesore’ (bit hyperbolic, but they have a point). I don’t mind TC, he stands up for what he believes, unlike many other toadies and dic sion dafydds searching for a pat on the head. I just disagree with him,both politically and on indy. There is a substantive difference between a stickering campaign and a UK gov building flying the (current) official flag. Still, we have the… Read more »

Nick Randall-Smith
Nick Randall-Smith
22 days ago
Reply to  CJPh

One substantive difference between the small YesCymru stickers and the huge Union Flag sticker is that I am paying for the huge Union Flag sticker whether I like it or not. Let us remember that the current Tory government is cutting overseas aid providing clean, safe drinking water to some of the poorest people in the world but at the same time spending extra money on useless British flaggery, it’s shameful.

CJPh
CJPh
22 days ago

Oh, I completely agree. This action, along with all the cringeworthy (and increasingly authoritarian) identitarian myth making is to be protested, countered and resisted. I’m just not a fan of the stickers. We can look at Dai Dafis’ response and laugh, but there are plenty potential supporters who’ll agree with the sentiment – are YesCymru not for civic pride? That’ll be what many think. It’s off-putting save for those already on our side. Our bumper stickers, tshirt, flags and posters are all positive, voluntary, individually held exemplars of supporting the cause – great, it says “why not consider indy, I… Read more »

CJPh
CJPh
22 days ago
Reply to  CJPh

Sorry, *wrong message. Autocorrected to ‘wrongful’

Last edited 22 days ago by CJPh
Nick Randall-Smith
Nick Randall-Smith
22 days ago
Reply to  CJPh

I can see your point but perhaps we have to weigh raising public awareness of the cause of national freedom against the minor and temporary defacement of public property. Here in Mid Wales I haven’t seen any inappropriate YesCymru stickery (yet) but I’m doing my bit with the back end of my car. 😃🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿😃

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CJPh
CJPh
22 days ago

Yup, mine too! Ardderchog.

If some data were to come to light as to the efficacy of stickers to raise positive awareness and not to tie the notion of our emancipation to defacing lampposts, I’ll stand happily corrected. I fear it is doing more harm to our movement than we realise – subtlety and with the best intentions, the way previous movements have failed.

j humphrys
j humphrys
21 days ago

Cool!

Mark
Mark
22 days ago

sounds like an Inglish politician?

Quornby
Quornby
22 days ago

The Yes stickers are put up by the people. The union flag is put up by a post colonial power that thinks the Raj still exists.

Mab Meirion
Mab Meirion
22 days ago
Reply to  Quornby

It still does on the Tory front row

j humphrys
j humphrys
21 days ago
Reply to  Quornby

My brother says they think “Carry On Up the Kyber” is a documentary.

Ceri
Ceri
21 days ago

Is the Vaccinated sticker now going to be used as a “but they..” defense too?

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