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A wounded America, and a shot that will backfire

12 Sep 2025 9 minute read
“Charlie Kirk” by Gage Skidmore is licensed under CC BY-SA 2.0.

Stephen Price

With the end in sight for my 24 year old boiler, an engineer called around yesterday morning to size and price things up. Arriving early, with the obligatory and overdue house clean mid-progress, we had a few chats about the joys of his home city and my former stomping ground for both work and university.

When he asked about my studies, I sheepishly held back and talked around my chosen subjects, before offering my usual, “but I went back to Swansea uni and did an MA to right the wrongs’ but he insisted I give up the goods.

“Philosophy and World Religions,” I said. “But with Welsh too – at least *that* part has been useful for work.”

This has happened before plenty of times. On my LinkedIn, even, we do not mention my A Levels or Undergrad degree. An unspeakable, almost joke – a working class, former council house dwelling gayboy from the edge of the valleys who obsessively reads, thinks, tries to understand, to empathise.

Sometimes, I look back at the confused deer-in-headlights youngster I was, unsure of divergent career paths ahead, wishing I’d chosen ‘better’ subjects – courses that qualified me in something. But I know that given those choices again today, being made to choose one thing to do forever, day in day out, I’d still struggle, because, in the words of Chelsea Wolfe, “I want to be all things.”

Since time immemorial, my ancestors hunted, farmed, reared children and mined – things were more straightforward, tougher in many ways, sure, but this delicate runner-from-the-rugby-ball had to be spat out now.

Now of all times.

Brilliant.

“Watching storms start to form over America”

What my studies have equipped me with, both pre and post graduate, was a hard-earned armour for being able to think, to question, to ask if something is right, and to take criticism on the chin.

I have a natural leaning toward justice – for human and animal and planet alike – and I take criticism as joyous sparring, priviliged to hone my own ideas against others and to, I hope, reach shared understanding or, in the case of my media criticism later on, a better standard of writing, a better finished piece, an appreciation of other angles.

Which leads me on to the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

I’d only watched a handful of his videos before this week – usually on the subject of trans youth or immigration, two of the USA’s most toxic points of discourse, and then it was next in line for the doom scroll – pugs being pugs, artists sharing their unattainable works and ads, oh yes, ads and more ads. The joyless sludge of social media.

A friend messaged me on Wednesday evening, at around 8pm, and simply said, “Charlie Kirk has been shot.”

“Shit.”

“Girl, someone had to do it”

To quote the over-quoted, Herbert H. Lehman summarised beautifully the need for debate, discourse, and cooperation with those who think differently.

He said: “I must respect the opinions of others even if I disagree with them.”

Naturally, opinion can be hateful, and it can be incorrect, but as someone who *I hope* sits in neither camp, watching without the popcorn from the sidelines, this quite clearly applies on both sides of the fence, left and right.

Was Jo Cox’s murder a bad one, this a good one? The online narrative from the left suggests thus.

Where one side makes 2+2 into 4, the other 5, there’s often too much polarisation to expect a meeting in the middle. I’d even put money on an India and Pakistan style population exchange one day – a civil break-up, if you will, where oil and water accept that there is no more hope.

Words and opinions ultimately lead to action, and even policy.

Following his death, journalist and college professor Stacey Patton wrote: “Kirk’s Watchlist has terrorized legions of professors across this country. Women, Black faculty, queer scholars, basically anyone who challenged white supremacy, gun culture, or Christian nationalism suddenly found themselves targets of coordinated abuse.

“Some received death threats. Some had their jobs threatened. Some left academia entirely. Kirk sent the loud message to us: speak the truth and we will unleash the mob!”

No one in their right mind would deny the butterfly-effect of Kirk’s opinions. But does that justify his murder? Does anything, ever, in a civilised country?

Closer to home, along with thousands of others, George Abaraonye, a Philosophy, Politics and Economics student at Oxford University who became president-elect of the Oxford Union after a vote earlier this year, posted several comments appearing to celebrate what happened.

The Times reported that in one message to fellow students in a WhatsApp chat, Mr Abaraonye wrote, “Charlie Kirk got shot, let’s f****** go”, while another on his Instagram account read, “Charlie Kirk got shot loool”.

Mr Kirk and Mr Abaraonye, a politics, philosophy and economics student, met during a debate on “toxic masculinity” held by the Oxford Union – which is primarily for students and staff at the university – in May.

In a statement posted on X on Thursday, the Oxford Union criticised the student’s comments and said it “firmly opposes all forms of political violence and strongly stands by our commitment to free speech and considerate debate”.

“The Oxford Union would like to unequivocally condemn the reported words and sentiments expressed by its President-Elect, George Abaraonye, with regards to the passing of Charlie Kirk,” the society said.

“His reported views do not represent the Oxford Union’s current leadership or committee’s view.”

The statement added: “We would like to reiterate that our condolences lie with Charlie Kirk’s family, especially his wife and young children, who are enduring such terrible grief.”

Bernie Sanders spoke beautifully following Kirk’s assassination, saying: “A free and democratic society which is what America is supposed to be about, depends upon the basic premise that people can speak out, organise, and take part in public life without fear, without worrying that they might be killed, injured or humiliated for expressing their political views.

“That is the essence of what freedom, of what democracy, is about.

“Political violence is political cowardice.”

Sowing the seeds of hate

At odds with Kirk’s stance on Palestine, which he maintained doesn’t exist, I’ve stood in pro-Palestine demonstrations since before the current war on Gaza, I’ve written countless pieces calling for justice for Palestinians, hunted out others to platform again and again and again.

I’m also in the LGBTQI2spiritwtfnow brigade (so probably not someone he’d be a fan of either), but an old school G that’s quite dumbfounded at the current state of affairs, but that’s for another piece.

Kirk’s views are no less inflammatory than opinions held by many many Christians and Muslims alike, his debates were often measured, faultless, with him tending to come out on top when holding up an impenetrable cloak of logic.

But back to Palestine… I’ve shared hundreds, if not thousands, of images of brutalised Palestinians and the ruins of hospitals, churches, homes.

And whilst I, more than most, am doing all I can for a resolution, and to open other people’s eyes, I’d take no comfort in Netanyahu receiving a bullet to the neck. None at all.

The Hague? Now that would be satisfying.

Not only would it be satisfying for a man that has been responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of people, the displacement of millions, and trauma that will pass down familial lines for generations to come to be held accountable, it would also help to disarm the countless others behind him that are just as, if not worse, than him in every way shape and form.

A figurehead is just that. Netanyahu is the symptom, and ‘comparatively measured’ mouthpiece, for an endless supply of people in the wings with deeper, darker motives.

But to think that you can kill an ideology or thought through violence is misguided and naive.

Losing a figurehead is a win for Kirk and those behind him, not a loss. Assassination brings with it elevation to god-like status, immortalisation, and allows an encapsulation of scattered ideas to be better formulated, better weaponised.

I know, from my own anecdotal evidence of social media, that friends, relatives and strangers have shared his content more in the past few days than ever before.

And those who may have sat on shared opinions of his are now emboldened, and perhaps rightly so, in their fact-based opinion on the true nature of many who consider themselves ‘on the left’. That murder is OK for some if they’re disagreed with.

Since his death, Kirk will, if he hasn’t already, receive a level of martyrdom that will only inspire even more polarising figures, more ‘eye for an eye’, and even less measured debate.

One of the last seeds he sowed was a very valid anger following the murder of a Ukrainian refugee at the hands of a man who had slipped through the net in America’s failing justice system. A murder that few outside of the right wing have cared to amplify.

A murder which can, and perhaps even should, be a catalyst for change.

So while many on the left will be dancing, meme-making, and saying ‘he got what he deserved,’ anyone listening to the canaries in the mine knows that this is a shot that will backfire for many years to come.

And it’s the people who are taking the most pleasure in his murder that will have the most to fear.


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Alwyn
Alwyn
2 months ago

Diolch Ben for a measured and effective piece of writing. You echo everything I feel for Charlie Kirk, that while I hate the views that he has espoused, I would defend totally his right to hold them, and would have welcomed the chance to debate them. His death echoes the Chinese proverb ‘he who strikes the first blow loses the argument ’. Violence can never be justified,

Alwyn
Alwyn
2 months ago
Reply to  Alwyn

Sorry Stephen – mis-named you, but the thanks and praise were for you

David J
David J
2 months ago
Reply to  Alwyn

In a civilised society populated by intelligent people, Kirk would not have been shot, but would be doing something more appropriate to his energies and capabilities, such as the agricultural work formerly done by immigrants, before ICE got their hands on them. I am sure a 12 hour day in the fields with a bunch of hard-working mexicans would have altered his views somewhat.

Paul
Paul
2 months ago

Free speech isn’t free if you get killed for it. It doesn’t matter what you say you should be allowed to say it and we should be grown up enough to listen and be allowed to say our bit too. Isn’t that what civilised people are supposed to do?

Tucker
Tucker
2 months ago

Didn’t Kirk say that it was OK people to die by gun violence, as a trade off for having Second Ammendment rights?
What gets me is the every same day there were school shootings and not one person from the Trump administration or three Republican Party has condemned those acts. Yet they call for flags tto flown at half mast and a minutes silence in the Senate for Kirk.

smae
smae
2 months ago
Reply to  Tucker

That he did, he also said that children from the age of 12 should be made to attend public executions.

The irony is not lost on me.

Crwtyddol
Crwtyddol
2 months ago
Reply to  smae

Agreed. People who state that gun deaths are an acceptable price to pay don’t expect to be in the line up. Total lack of empathy is the hallmark of fascis. School shootings are commonplace and its a sign of a sick society from all levels up to the top that nothing is done to stop it. Apparantly death by shooting is the most common cause of death for under 21s, I believe.

Rob
Rob
2 months ago

In my view there are two major issues here. The first is social media, which has become a platform for fuelling polarisation and disinformation. Too often, people only engage with news sources that confirm what they already believe, while dismissing opposing views as “far right” or “far left.” When you don’t hear the other side, it becomes easier to demonise them rather than debate them. I did not agree with Charlie Kirk’s views, but what happened to him was horrific and must be utterly condemned, just as the attempt on Trump’s life last year should be as well. Yet over… Read more »

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Peter J
Peter J
2 months ago
Reply to  Rob

I couldn’t agree more, especially with social media. People can post extreme and completely incorrect views without challenge and even be well regarded for this. In a slightly grandstanding way, ultimately we as citizens are to be blamed for allowing this to happen

Steve D.
Steve D.
2 months ago

No one deserves to die for their views. Violence is not the answer. However, Kirk’s rhetoric always put him at risk. Free speech is all well and good but not when what you spout sows divisiveness, hate and ultimately misery for people. Kirk, Trump and Farage have used people’s fear for gain they’ve promote the hate and violence.

Amir
Amir
2 months ago

Whatever happens across the pond seems to have reverberating effects over here. Whatever they suffer there, we will eventually suffer the same here. The language of hate and division eventually manifests itself in violence and murder. Something we are already experiencing with the violent rape of a Sikh lady in west Midlands by 2 men who told her “You don’t belong in this country, get out.” I don’t need to tell you the skin colour of the alleged perpetrators.

Johnny
Johnny
2 months ago
Reply to  Amir

Plus of course a deafening silence from the Hotel Protesting Hate Mob who always go on about the safety of Women.

Dai Ponty
Dai Ponty
2 months ago

Its tragic that he has been murdered but actions have consequences

Johnny
Johnny
2 months ago
Reply to  Dai Ponty

I quite agree if you are an advocate for idiots to go running around with guns then there will be consequences.

Dai Ponty
Dai Ponty
2 months ago

The same can be said of the right if you dont agree with them you are a commie or a Nazi

hdavies15
hdavies15
2 months ago

Left and Right at their extremes are all Fascistic bigots. Maybe we should just build a big wall around them all and let them do each other harm until the final silence.

Bruce
Bruce
2 months ago

Seems the left-left are no better than the right-right, and decency and real progress are only possible from the centre ground.

Jeff
Jeff
2 months ago
Reply to  Bruce

When kids are gunned down in schools or people not white murdered on the US streets I hear the GOP, Trump etc. try to play it down, no flags at half mast, no awards (also see Democrats murdered, attack on Pelosi, Floyd etc. and Trumps response). When I fellow I have never heard of is murdered, I hear the gop go ape on people that were not responsible for it and now lose their lunch because they cannot blame who they wanted and tried to start a pogrom. I didn’t hear the left call for the same over George Floyd… Read more »

Bruce
Bruce
2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff

It’s important to recognise that the left and the right are both capable of extremism. While the line of violence is crossed sooner in the US, the UK isn’t that far behind. And those on the left dancing on this guy’s grave are simply saying they’d do the same if only they had the balls and the means. The right behaving badly doesn’t change or excuse this. No-one has to like Starmer’s centrist government but when a large number on either side see nothing at all in common with it ideologically, when the left-left see a Tory government and the… Read more »

Jeff
Jeff
2 months ago
Reply to  Bruce

Hear Vance today?
Hear musk at tommy 10 names rally?
not seeing the comparison. Its not there.

Jeff
Jeff
2 months ago
Reply to  Bruce

Now listen to Miller.
they are gearing up to attack.

Jeff
Jeff
2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff

not forgetting miller had his fingers in the Jan 6th insurection. How many Dems tried for insurrection

David J
David J
2 months ago
Reply to  Bruce

Violence is not equally distributed. Most of it comes from the right, and has done so throughout history. Far-right violence is now the biggest threat in both the UK and the US. In the Spanish civil war, for example, around 70% of the atrocities were committed by the Fascists, the rest by Republicans. The crucial difference was that while Republican violence was largely a result of actions by undisciplined individuals or gangs (and the Republican government did their best to prevent it), the Fascist violence was a matter of deliberate policy, to demoralise and humiliate the opposition. We see the… Read more »

Bryce
Bryce
2 months ago
Reply to  David J

Stalin?

David J
David J
2 months ago

Don’t apologise for keeping away from sport Stephen. In some far-off future saturday, when the stadia are empty and the libraries full, we might then claim some measure of civilisation. As it is we are far from civilised; one in six of the adult population are functionally illiterate (National Literacy Campaign) and it is reasonable to suppose that the same number aren’t great readers, or by extension , thinkers. Instead we have a childish obsession with competitive sport, especially those which involve adults kicking balls around.

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