Corbyn and the Senedd election

Martin Shipton
Just as we were getting used to the idea that next year’s Senedd election will have a new dynamic predicated on Reform UK performing well, a further unexpected element has entered the fray to upset our calculations.
The as yet unnamed party of the left announced by Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana seems likely to be a participant. A statement issued by its two named supporters in Wales – former Cynon Valley Labour MP Beth Winter and Mark Serwotka, the ex-general secretary of the PCS union – suggests strongly that the party will be on the Senedd ballot papers in May 2026.
There are a number of things to say about the potential impact the Corbyn party could have on the election, but I’ll start with a message I received from a non-tribal Labour friend in the wake of the original announcement: “They’re polling 10% in the UK. Will be less in Wales because of Plaid, but if they poll 5% next year that would almost guarantee Labour third place, and Reform top, because they will take votes off Plaid too and stop Labour voters going to Plaid. Great news for Reform.”
‘Splitting the vote’
“Splitting the vote” is a common term used to describe a situation where opponents of a dominant party don’t coalesce behind a single challenger, but spread their support between multiple parties, enabling the dominant party to come out on top. That’s how the Conservatives have won so many UK general elections over the years, and why Labour has remained pre-eminent in Wales. It’s usually associated with “first-past-the-post” elections, where people are often advised to vote tactically to counteract the negativity of a split vote. But it could easily be in play at the Senedd election because of the decision to adopt a “closed list” voting system, rather than the Single Transferable Vote (STV), the much more common form of proportional representation.
If we had STV, Corbyn supporters could vote for his candidates and then transfer to Plaid Cymru, for example, without unwittingly helping Reform. As it is, we are potentially faced with another unintended negative consequence of Labour’s insistence on the adoption of closed list.
It will be interesting to examine any detailed polling evidence that emerges in coming months, but, as my friend suggests, there will undoubtedly be some who vote for Corbyn’s party who in its absence would have voted for Plaid Cymru.
There’s no doubt that Plaid is concerned at the potential for this. It’s the reason why its campaign team has been talking up the fact that Zarah Sultana, Corbyn’s prospective co-leader, voted against the devolution of the Crown Estates’ revenues to Wales earlier this year. It’s certainly embarrassing, and I was interested to find out what Beth Winter made of her ex-colleague’s arguably anti-Welsh stance. Unfortunately she didn’t respond to my message.
‘Deviationist nationalism’
It has to be remembered that there are people on the hard left who have no time for what they see as examples of “deviationist nationalism”. The cause of pure socialism is everything and anything that is a distraction from it cannot be supported. In the context of Britain this translates into a rigid form of unionism that perversely holds feelings of nationhood in Wales and Scotland in contempt.
I remember some years ago being told by a longstanding member of the Communist Party of Britain that the party’s general secretary Rob Griffiths, who at one time was a Plaid Cymru parliamentary researcher, was a good man, “although he does go on too much about this Welsh nationalist nonsense”. People on the left with such attitudes are never going to vote for Plaid, but they will vote for Corbyn. They’re likely to be a small proportion of the electorate, however.
The party with most to lose if the Corbyn party fields candidates in the Senedd election is, of course, Labour. In recent years Labour has been on a see-saw trajectory. It was disillusionment with the perceived rightward drift of the party that swept Corbyn into the leadership in 2015, following a disappointing general election defeat under Ed Miliband. Always a rebel and on the margins of the parliamentary party, he attracted support from millions of voters who were enthused by his passion for social justice.
I remember covering a rally at Whitchurch Common in Cardiff during the 2017 general election campaign where he was mobbed by supporters of all ages. Idealistic young people flocked to join Labour while some longer standing party members saw him as an unlikely leader who was reviving its traditional values. In the election Labour was only 2.3% behind the Tories under Theresa May, who lost her overall majority.
Brexit
But things then went downhill for Corbyn. He handled the parliamentary Brexit chaos badly and was demonised relentlessly by enemies who saw him as a threat. This was pushed by those whose shameless conflation of criticism of Israel with antisemitism was able to gain traction. After Boris Johnson convincingly won the “Get Brexit Done” election in 2019, Corbyn resigned as leader and was drummed out of the party on the pretext of antisemitism. Large numbers of party members left with him and full control of Labour reverted to its right wing. The party won the 2024 general election not on the basis of its own merits but because of huge disillusionment with the Conservatives. Corbyn retained his seat as an Independent and many rapidly became disillusioned with Labour.
Corbyn’s strident denunciations of Israel’s genocidal behaviour in Gaza, coupled with his criticisms of punitive welfare cuts, have revived his status as political hero for many and as things stand he could pick up a lot of votes from disillusioned Labour supporters. The extent of this is as yet unclear, but he will certainly peel off votes from his old party, in Wales as well as in England.
So we now have two big name politicians from outside Wales who will have an impact on next year’s Senedd election. Is this a good thing for devolution or the Welsh national project? Probably not. Farage and Corbyn may be at opposite ends of the political spectrum, but in their own ways they both have cachets that many find alluring.
Financial backing
Farage, of course, has the advantage of significant financial backing from fossil fuel business interests that stand to benefit from his political agenda based on climate change denial. His party’s appeal is based on the exploitation of multiple grievances spiced up with barely disguised racism while offering no credible solutions.
Corbyn won’t have big business donations to rely on, although it’s possible that some unions may switch their support to his party from Labour. He’ll also have significant backing on social media, if not from the mainstream press.
It’s little more than nine months to the Senedd election. Eluned Morgan and Rhun ap Iorwerth have seen the Reform UK founder as their most significant rival in their battle to remain or become leader of the largest party in Wales.
Who would have thought that another political figure from beyond our borders that many assumed was out for the count will be part of the mix too?
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There’s no such thing as “splitting the vote” really. There appears to be this entitlement in politics – Welsh politics specifically – around parties feeling they have some kind of right to voters. It’s gross and disrespects the electorate. Plaid should see this as a challenge because its not seen the growth that Reform is seeing in Wales. The party is surely benefitting from Labours struggles more than it is capitalising through policy otherwise we’d be seeing far more consistent and substantial gains in GE polling as well as SE polling. IF Corbyn gets this off the ground it could… Read more »
I disagree with your analysis. While chaos has it’s benefits, as Martin says, disrupting Plaid is not ideal and Reform sweeping into power in Wales is looking more likely now. That would be cataclysmic for Wales. It will be a baby Trump 2.0 here in Wales.
Plaid is significantly more resilient than I think Martin gives it credit for. Those campaigners out of the streets in their communities know a vote isn’t won until there’s an X in the box.
Rhun and his team were practically giving our portfolios at the first sign they were polling higher than Labour. Now it’s not going to be easy sailing they’re upset about it.
If Plaid were that resilient, how come they didn’t even put forward a candidate in Monmouthshire?
Probably because Plaid doesn’t have much of a local organization in Monmouthshire. When I lived in those parts, the county of Gwent still existed, and I noticed back then that while Plaid had an active presence in a number of parts of the valleys, they were much less apparent in the rural areas of eastern Gwent.
And it’s those more rural areas – where even a sense of ‘Welshness’ isn’t always how folk identify themselves – which now comprise the current county of Monmouthshire
Probably because it was only a town council by-election. Most parties didn’t put up a candidate in that by-election.
And – sorry but there is such a thing a splitting the vote. In Wales we basically have those on the right and far-right who will vote Reform and Tory and those on left who will vote Plaid, Labour, Green and Lib Dem. You add a 5th element -Corbyn’s party and the left is further splintered. In SE Wales Plaid will be particularly impacted. Parties must get about 12% of the vote in each constituency to get 1 candidate elected. Plaid will do well to get 12% as it is in places like Cardiff, Newport and Monmouth. With Corbyn’s party… Read more »
There really isn’t. Plaid has had many, many years of experiencing campaigning against Labour. It’s just going to be a bit more difficult which I think we can all agree is for the benefit of us all. If they run a good campaign and listen to disillusioned voters and bring them on board then they’ll do well I’m sure.
No votes have been cast yet. As it stands; what Corbyn is fighting for is votes that Labour hasn’t lost until election day.
Of course Plaid has to listen to disillusioned voters. But Corbyn’s party is all about that and working with far more resources and possibly experience than Plaid. Plaid have gone up in the polls primarily due to Labour voters switching. Now they will have a very well resourced and publicised opposition for those same voters. Remember this is a left wing offshoot from the party Plaid wants to capture disillutioned left-wing voters. I have zero doubt Plaid will lose votes to this new party and as they are second to Reform as it stands I am amazed at how blase… Read more »
On the regional list in 2021, Plaid got comfortably more than 12% of the vote share in the three different regions of South Wales, even though Plaid were polling quite a bit lower back then than they are now.
The last YouGov MRP poll predicted that Plaid would win at least one seat in all 16 constituencies in Wales (unlike the Tories and Labour).
Alas the “internationalism” of the brit left only goes so far – its certainly rarely extended to the nations of Scotland and Wales. Indeed – as Martin points out in this timely piece – much of the british left doesn’t even recognise Scotland and Wales as nations in their own right. Hence they’ve been happy to see both nations plundered for their natural resources when its in the interests of the british state to do so – so its sadly no surprise that Zarah Sultana voted against the devolution of the crown estates to Wales for example.
Top spot Dai, shocking that Sultana votes for her king to continue plundering the wealth of another country.
What next? The Jeremy Corbyn, who gifted the Tories a decade of power, being exposed as a former private schoolboy who wanted Brexit.
I’ve not seen any explanation from Zarah Sultana why she voted against devolving Crown Estate revenues to Wales. I suspect she just went along with the block of Welsh Labour MPs.
Rest assured that ‘Your Party’ supporters in Wales will make clear that she was mistaken on this.
Perhaps potential ‘Your Party’ supporters in Wales will organise support and campaign for PLAID CYMRU and not to stand any of their own candidate lists in areas where Plaid Cymru could win votes and seats.
If this doesn’t work and no agreement can be reached then Plaid Cymru must include the use of bar chart explaining that Corbyn’s party cannot win here.
Only Plaid Cymru can beat the Tories/Reform/Labour here !
It has worked in England gaining seats for our LD.
As I remember, the last YouGov MRP poll predicted that Plaid would win at least one seat in all 16 constituencies in Wales (unlike the Tories and Labour).
You’re forgetting the new electoral system, which makes it quite possible for ‘Your Party’ and Plaid Cymru both to win seats in a constituency. Perhaps Plaid Cymru could stand down for us in some seats.
Exactly. There are plenty of people on the hard left who are anti-devolution because they see the fragmentation it creates as an impediment to universally implementing socialist policy UK-wide.
For example, a scenario where a socialist Westminster government is unable to implement its policies in Essex or East Anglia because its devolved government is run by Reform.
….. Exactly, a centralised socialist UK will work, won’t it? It failed after 70 years of trying to make it work in the USSR. Then Russia denies that the Ukraine really exists.
Don’t make that same mistake.
There is no future for WALES or Scotland as part of a centralised UK.
We must have Liberal Democracy and be Independence nation as defined by the United Nations..
Totally agree, the only long term option for a successful, vibrant Cymru is independence from the ongoing right wing British political agenda.
Having a high profile left wing Unionist party enter the fray should terrify Labour mainly.
Think it’s also bad news for Plaid as it’ll tempt a fair chunk of those voters who are/were intending to switch from Labour.
Great news for Reform given the fine margins between them and Plaid in polling. Corbyn & Sultana will probably hand Reform the election if they contest it next year.
The pollsters say it’ll more likely impact the SNP and also plaid. The reason is the Senedd (and Scottish parliament) election was always likely to be a protest anti labour election. So plaid are polling well at the moment, not because there is a sudden urge for independence, but because many don’t want to vote labour and there is no left wing alternative in Wales. Those voters might well now switch to the Corbyn party.
Yes, I agree.
It’ll probably block the Greens making a breakthrough in Cardiff too.
Personally, I don’t think this does anything for *this* Senedd election other than give Reform a boost. If indeed the Corbyn-Sultana Party does stand that is.
I don’t see it gives time to decide and lay out a coherent Welsh policy platform and will only serve to pull votes away from the Greens, Plaid and Labour because of the Corbyn factor.
Indeed, it gives reform a boost. It makes the most likely outcome next year a reform-Tory coalition using basic arithmetic. Unbelievable for wales
The best hope is everyone remembers how hapless Corbyn was, or the general infighting, disorganisation and incompetence of sultana, Corbyn et al means they don’t field candidates next Senedd
We remember how in 2024 Starmer, with the full support of the British establishment, lost 3 million of the votes Corbyn won in 2017. And Starmer has lost many more since.
Come on, that’s such a clique! So many labour voters in that election were voting to stop a hard Brexit.
I knocked many doors in 2017, including in a marginal constituency that had voted heavily for Remain. Brexit hardly came up, as at that time it was seen as decided. Labour’s stance of respecting the result while seeking a new partnership was not something I ever had to defend on a doorstep.
The main issue was austerity and how it could be reversed. There was also a wish to avoid more wars, plus contempt for all politicians in the wake of the expenses scandal.
Given the quality of the Green candidates in the Cardiff Penarth constituency, there will be serious consideration given to whether or not the new party will stand there.
‘Your Party’ is not ‘unionist’. The statement supporting it from Beth Winter and Mark Serwotka commits to ‘autonomy and self-determination’.
Winter and Serwotka have no standing to promise anything at this stage.
This new party is a splinter from Labour, a unionist party.
Nobody can promise anything at this stage. The party has not yet been formed. Many people are interested in this alternative who have never been Labour members. Politics is not a simplistic division between ‘unionists’ and ‘nationalists’. Peace, justice and the future of our planet matter more.
For the Many Not the Few.
Not what I was arguing, but good luck with it.
But not in the UK.
Corbyn is just a protest politician looking out for himself. He wouldn’t have a clue what to do in actual government so he is just splintering the ‘left wing’ vote for his own ends. He knows full well that he has no chance of power – it’s just about him.
The implications of ‘Your Party’ for Wales are yet to be worked through. Corbyn has hinted at distinct parties for England, Wales and Scotland that would cooperate at the UK level. Nor are the implications for Senedd elections yet clear. ‘Don’t split the vote’ is gross hypocrisy from those who in Labour who have purged socialists. Perhaps ‘Your Party’ will decide not to stand in constituencies where other parties have lists headed by socialists. Politics is about more than elections. These are early days. But 400,000 people (which must include many thousands in Wales) wanting to know more indicates the… Read more »
Spot on Lyn.
Politics without power is just a student protest.
Politics without principles is just powerless.
Does it matter to you if some of the principles don’t resonate with voters? At what point do you say it’s better to have the Tories than give up on the ones that voters aren’t impressed with? This is about government. It’s about keeping the lights on. It’s about public services that work. It’s about national security, food security and energy security. It’s about jobs and opportunities for young people. If the principles get in the way of stuff that matters to people, what then?
Are you claiming that Starmer’s policies ‘resonate with voters’? Cuts to pensioner fuel payments and disability benefits? Refusal to take water back into public ownership? Support for genocide?
Has continued austerity improved public services? Have more homes been built? Have opportunities for young people improved? Starmer promised ‘change’, not just ‘keeping the lights on’.
No wonder half a million people have said they want to get involved in building a real progressive alternative.
How would you solve the 120 billion annual deficit?
A currency-issuing state can always create the money it needs, as the Bank of England did to bail out the bankers, and again during covid-19. A fiscal deficit need not be a disaster. In fact, deficits are essential to provide the private sector with the money it needs to spend and save. In conditions such as after the bankers’ crash, with many unemployed resources, concern over deficits is misplaced. New money creates demand, stimulating output with little risk of inflation. Austerity was a political choice not an economy necessity. That said, a government’s currency-issuing power does not give… Read more »
The point was about the principles in politics that you’re demanding. It wasn’t an invitation to criticise your opponents.
Was Mr Corbyn’s refusal to back Remain in 2016 based on principles?
Because to others it looked as though he just didn’t want to share a campaign platform with a Tory, even if it was the right thing to do.
And that’s not principled, that’s petulant.
Please don’t spread myths. Corbyn supported Remain in 2016. That’s on the record. So did many of us who backed him, leafleting and knocking doors night and night for the campaign. Did you do that? Corbyn was quite right not to share a platform with the Tories . The best contribution Cameron and Osborne could have made to the Remain campaign would have been to leave the country and keep their mouths shut. Millions of people voted Leave because they did not want things to remain as they were after years of austerity. Why would any Labour leader want to… Read more »
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/26/corbyn-must-resign-inadequate-leader-betrayal
“Corbyn sabotaged Labour’s remain campaign”
Why am I supposed to give any weight to the opinions of ‘Baron Wilson of Sedgefield’, an arch-Blairite given a sinecure in the Lords by Starmer for his services to the right-wing of the Labour Party? It’s true that in 2016 it took some effort to make a positive case for the EU, which had orchestrated austerity across the continent, putting bankers’ interests over those of workers. Acting with the ECB and IMF, it had cynically destroyed the economy of Greece and broken its left-wing government. But we did it at Corbyn’s request. Phil Wilson would have done better to… Read more »
The buck stops with the leader. If millions of Labour voters treated the vote as a referendum on austerity it’s because Labour didn’t explain the choice on the ballot paper was only between more of the same or something worse. He was experienced enough to know it was a Tory stitchup yet he saw it was an opportunity to recreate the 70s. Let the Tories destroy everything and rebuild a socialist utopia from the wreckage. Another story of demolishing the house to fix a leaking roof. Aka a socialist version of Thatcher. That’s not the actions of a progressive, it’s… Read more »
I’ve asked you twice what you did to win the 2016 vote for Remain. You haven’t answered so I assume the answer is nothing.
That deprives you of any moral right to criticise those of us who did work for that, and makes your opinion irrelevant.
I did my job and voted. Corbyn as leader of one of the two main UK parties had the actual power and the responsibility to swing the result for Remain and he didn’t use it. Everything that followed is on him and the people that put him there. Don’t try to turn it on voters.
You bothered to vote? Wow! I’m impressed.
It’s always been the plan of the left-left hasn’t it. Do whatever it takes to get and keep the Tories in power because there’s nothing better than dancing in the street with like-minded folk at an anti-Cons student protest. I bet Jezza really misses Thatcher, life was great when she brought so many together in opposition.
Protest is the life blood of a free society. Ask Vladamir Putin.
Protest that’s not prepared to do the hard yards of actually delivering meaningful change in government is nothing but virtue signalling.
Meaningful change? What did you have in mind?
Cutting disability benefits?
Encouraging financial speculation against BoE advice?
Arresting pacificist grandmothers?
This is the problem with permaprotesters that aren’t prepared to deal with the realities of actual government. If you want to give away more money you need to say where it’s coming from while not losing the support of those who’ll pay for it. Because that’s what democracy is all about. Governing for everyone, not just a clique of student friends. Which is why the Corbyn’s People’s Party is such a great move because these conversations can be had directly with the electorate who can choose to support the proposals with their vote, or consign them to the political margins.… Read more »
Why are you obsessed with students? It’s a long time since I was one. Does it make you feel grown-up to talk about ‘actual government’?
I answered ‘where will the money come from’ in a long reply to Peter J on this page yesterday, so I won’t repeat that here. I’ll add that neither defending genocide nor harassing Quakers saves money.
I don’t expect a dramatic electoral breakthrough. It took Labour decades to displace the Liberals. But we will offer hope to millions who have lost faith in government.
The real test will be this. Let’s say the Corbyn People’s Party gets 30 MPs in 2029 with a 20 promise manifesto. Would it choose to deliver 5 of those commitments in a coalition government, or none of them to preserve their principles in permaprotest?
Much could happen between now and 2029.
I’ve been around long enough to remember how entering the Mitterand cabinet destroyed the PCF, so I’d be very wary. Coalition is difficult for the smaller party. Think of what happened to the LibDems under Clegg.
But there are ways of providing support, if justified, without taking ministerial posts.
Hi Lyn I’m so interested in your comments through this thread. Is it possible to DM you to follow up further?
Clare
Please do, although I don’t know how you do that from here.
Who can forget TUSC and its propensity to stand everywhere – albeit backed by very little ground work or door knocking? Extrapolating from the massive numbers of people who have registered for the project, the new party has already tapped into a strong voter sentiment. However, it’s presence is likely to remain largely electronic and inchoate well into 2026. I suspect that online voting would have given this drive real wings. As it is, the sensible thing would be to identify 5 or 6 urban constituencies and work them to hell and back – this is what worked for the… Read more »
If all this moves in the random disorganised manner witnessed so far, Corbyn, Sultana and their Welsh acolytes might struggle to get a serious campaign off the ground by next May.
The most likely outcome! That said, there are grumpy momentum types up and down the country happy to splinter votes for their our puritanical view of what wales should be!
Well, if they do stand my guess is that they won’t get enough support to win many/any seats under the new voting system. What they might do, however, is peel off enough Labour voters in areas where there is a strong Muslim community (particularly south Cardiff) to affect the outcome. A bit like what happened over Gaza in a handful of seats in the General Election.
To suggest the new party might get 10% of the vote is a long way behind the curve. At the moment signups are somewhere above half a million, with more flooding in. That is more than the UK membership totals for Labour, the Tories and the Lib Dems combined, or rather more than twice Reform’s membership. In any case Reform is an odd sort of entity, being not a traditional party but a wholly-owned, wholly-controlled limited company. How this will work out in practice still remains to be seen. Early days yet. But it is clear a new political giant… Read more »
‘Corbyn retained his seat as an Independent and many rapidly became disillusioned with Labour.’ In my own direct experience there seem to be some authentic reasons to have become ‘disillusioned with Labour.’ A couple of weeks ago I e-mailed my new Labour MP raising the issue of her government having designated ‘Palestine Action’ as a terrorist organization, on the grounds that while its members certainly appear to have indulged in criminal activity, they can hardly be depicted as ‘terrorists’ when compared to the past actions of, say, the Provisional IRA, or of al Qaeda and its sympathizers and affiliates. In… Read more »
In fairness, MPs have always received far more correspondence than they can manage. But one noticeable Tory trait is how they tended to respond more on matters that they had disagreements with you on! It’s an interesting characteristic, and probably reflective of why they got into politics. I can understand why they would steer clear of responding on Gaza because 1) it’s such a toxic issue in the UK, 2) there is virtually nothing they can do which has a real impact there and 3) the labour policy on forming a peace roadmap and a two state solution, whilst admirable,… Read more »
I agree absolutely with your point that ‘there is virtually nothing (the UK government) can do which has a real impact’ on the ongoing tragedy playing out in Gaza – and of course there’s even less that a newly elected back-bench Labour MP might hope to accomplish! Which is why, in my e-mail to my MP, I confined myself to the domestic matter of questioning the proportionality of designating ‘Palestine Action’ as a terrorist organization, when its activities clearly indicate that it acts as a protest movement – very much akin to earlier campaigns of a similar nature which from time… Read more »
Couple of points here. Nothing they can do! Really? How about say: Close the Israeli embassy sanction every person in a position of power within Israel Stop the prosecutions of Reginald D Hunter and David Miller by private zionist organisations Ban the use of Aberporth airport for the testing of Israeli hardwear De-invest in Israel and make it illegal for pension funds to have holdings in any company associated with Israel A start maybe? On the subject of Palestine Action section 1 of the Terrorism Act defines “Terrorism”. The definition is that terrorism is any action (invlolving various forms of… Read more »
Corbyn’s party is just another variation on the same old Anglo-centric theme.
Starmer’s Labour is the worst that I can ever remember and Morgan has hitched her coat tails to this nonentity. At the very least, Plaid will distance themselves from UK Labour who will offer Wales no more than the Tories. Plaid’s time has surely come.
No one is entitled to votes. I wish British Blairites would understand this
I will support anything that finishes off Starmers Liebour Party Once and for all.His Nick names says it all 2 tier Keir from those on the Right and Sir Kid Starver over his hysterical support for the Zionist regime in Israel.