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He wants us deported

09 Oct 2026 6 minute read
Reform MS Joe Martin. Photo Senedd Cymru

Yuliia Bond

If you agreed with what was said in the Senedd this week, I genuinely want you to read this.

Joe Martin MS, from Reform UK Wales, said foreign nationals living in social housing should have three months to find somewhere to rent privately. If they can’t, they should be deported.

Three months. And then deportation.

Before anyone says, “Oh, it’s just one politician saying something stupid. Why are you making such a big deal out of it?”, have a look at the reaction on Facebook.

Around 14,600 reactions, including 13,000 Likes and 927 Loves. Another 1,400 shares and 1,500 comments. Look at how many people are engaging positively with this message.

This isn’t just about one politician standing up in the Senedd and saying something outrageous. It’s about how many people are apparently happy to applaud this kind of rhetoric. And that is what worries me.

Because we’re not discussing some abstract political theory here. We’re discussing real families, real children, real homes and the possibility of sending people back to countries they fled.

I genuinely wonder how many of those applauding have ever actually tried renting a house in Wales as a foreign national.

Because I have.

I came here from Ukraine with my two children because of the war. We lived with a sponsor for nine months. I found a full-time job with Caerphilly Council. My children started school, made friends and finally had a bit of normal life again.

I wasn’t living in social housing. I wanted to rent privately. I had a salary. I could afford it.

It took me six months to find a house.

Six bloody months.

Immigration status

Do you know what it’s like looking for a house when there are sometimes 30 or 40 other people interested in the same property? Landlords asking for a UK credit history, previous tenancy references, guarantors, proof of income.

And then there’s your immigration status. Ukrainians here have temporary permission to stay. Some landlords are understandably nervous about that when they have dozens of other applicants to choose from.

How am I supposed to have years of UK rental history when I’ve only just arrived here? How am I supposed to compete with 40 applicants when I don’t have half the documents they’re asking for?

And then there were my children. They had already lost their home, their friends, their entire normal life in Ukraine. They were finally settled in school here.

I didn’t want to move them again. I wanted them to have some stability, for God’s sake.

I don’t drive either. Back home, I didn’t need to. Here, that meant I had to find somewhere with decent public transport, where I could get to work and my children could get to school.

So no, I couldn’t just rent absolutely anywhere.

Joe also said that if he moved abroad, he wouldn’t expect the country to provide him with social housing.

Well, Joe, let me tell you something.

In Ukraine before the war, you could often find private accommodation on the same day. If you had the money and the landlord agreed, you could move in. The same day. You didn’t need years of local credit history or a pile of references just to be considered.

The problem isn’t always that people want somebody else to pay their rent. Sometimes nobody will even let them pay it themselves.

I was lucky. I spoke English. I had a good job. I had a sponsor keeping a roof over our heads while I searched.

Now imagine a Ukrainian mother with two children, living legally in social housing. She doesn’t speak much English yet. She has no British rental history. No guarantor. Maybe she’s just started working. Maybe she’s been rejected by twenty landlords already.

And now a politician wants to give her three months.

Three months, and then what? Back to Ukraine? Back to a country where missiles are falling, where entire streets have been destroyed, where some people don’t even have homes left to return to?

Imagine telling your children: “We have to go back to Ukraine. Not because Mummy did anything wrong. Because nobody agreed to rent us a house in time.”

Seriously. What the fuck are we doing?

Housing problems

And before anyone says British people are struggling with housing too, yes, they are. I know. I work with people facing housing problems. I see it.

I think it’s outrageous that young Welsh people can’t afford to live in the communities where they grew up. That working families are struggling to find somewhere affordable. That people are waiting years for social housing.

I want that fixed just as much as you do.

But can somebody please explain the logic here? You know there’s a housing shortage. You know private renting is incredibly competitive. You know people are struggling to find accommodation.

And your solution is to give some of those people three months to succeed in a market you already know is failing them?

Or get deported?

How is that a serious housing policy?

And please don’t tell me migrants just need to work, contribute and pay their own way. I did. I was working for your local council, paying my own bills, raising my children and trying to build a normal life.

I did everything you keep telling migrants they should do. And even that wasn’t enough to get me a rental within three months.

Now take away my English, my job, my sponsor and my support network. How much harder would it have been?

Barriers

I am not saying Wales should give everyone a free house. I am saying you cannot demand people become independent while ignoring the barriers they face when they’re desperately trying to do exactly that.

We need more homes. We need a private rental market people can actually access. We need solutions that work for the families already struggling here.

And yes, Welsh people deserve secure, affordable housing. Absolutely. But so do the human beings you’re talking about sending away.

So, Joe, imagine I’d been living in social housing instead.

Three months have passed. I’ve applied everywhere. Nobody has accepted me. My children are in school. I’m working. We’re finally starting to rebuild our lives after escaping a war.

Which one of us would you explain the deportation to first? Me or my children?

And what exactly would you tell them before I had to take them back to a war-torn country?

That their mother did everything right, but couldn’t find a landlord quickly enough?


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Tony Burgess
Tony Burgess
3 days ago

I’ve only just read this.. Yuliia I implore to believe that many thousands of people like myself absolutely abhor statements such as Reform MS Joe Martin make… I can only presume that Reform cronies are the only people that follow MS Joe Martin and his ilk thus the response stats are bias… I fully understand how you must feel when you read completely thoughtless and insensitive statements made by these disrupters.. controversy is their USP… There are more compassionate people in Wales than supporters of Reform…please hold on to that..

Ash
Ash
3 days ago
Reply to  Tony Burgess

I agree completely with what Tony has said and I also believe that Reformers are vastly outnumbered by decent, caring and empathetic people. I also believe that many Refuk supporters are also decent people but have been seduced into believing that all their ills are due to people even less fortunate than themselves.

Evan Aled Bayton
Evan Aled Bayton
3 days ago

The core problem encountered here is universal to low income and middle income people in the UK trying to find somewhere to live with stability and school places. There are a number of reasons for this but the first is the loss of quality public social housing at reasonable rental. We have a massive problem with bad infrastructure which is also insufficient. The population has increased approximately 40% in the last 30 years without concomitant increase in services and infrastructure.

Lyn Thomas
Lyn Thomas
2 days ago

Actually incorrect the actual increase is 20.5% so roughly half what you state. You are right about the loss of quality rental accommodation from the public sector. In 1979 the percentage living in social housing (both council and housing association housing) peaked at 42%. As social housing was cheaper than private rented and offered a real choice to people it helped keep private rented accommodation at a reasonable rent, coupled with rent control via the fair rent act. Today less than 8% of people live in social housing – meaning those breaks on rent increases no longer exist.

Richard Jenkins
Richard Jenkins
3 days ago

I’m deeply ashamed that a Welsh MS has exposed his racist hate so loudly. I hope Yulia will believe that the vast majority of us don’t agree at all & we welcome you with open arms . Don’t let the racist haters win!

Clive hopper
Clive hopper
3 days ago

This brave lady is absolutely right. And to think that Reform and Tories would actually try to implement such cruel policy defies belief. Racist, nasty people. As she quite rightly states finding nearby affordable private housing and actually having to deal with the nightmare paperwork involved, refs etc make it impossible for many people.

Jeff
Jeff
3 days ago

Reform want to drive hate a division. Joe Martin represents the worst of that bunch in the Senedd and that party has already set a very low bar. Everyone I know is not on his side, they are on yours.

Chris Hale
Chris Hale
3 days ago

Excellent writing Yuliia, Reform and this clown Martin do not speak for the people of Wales. His utterances show the depth of his ignorance and are aimed purely at gaining self publicity and likes from fellow racists on social media.

FrankC
FrankC
3 days ago

Martin is attention seeking fascist scum. Like his party, he doesn’t speak for Wales. The sooner we get rid of him and his grifting mates the better.

James wilson
James wilson
3 days ago

Yuliia – please don’t let the clickbait of small minded self interested halfwits phase you.

Frank
Frank
3 days ago

Deport him first.

Lyn Thomas
Lyn Thomas
2 days ago

The shear lack of humanity of these “Reform” MS representatives is breathtaking.

Dom
Dom
2 days ago

Surely they’re either agents of Putin or hoping to be.

Jeff
Jeff
2 days ago
Reply to  Dom

farage is taking crypto. Putin likes to use crypto. Farage admires Putin and did all he could to get Brexit done that benefited Putin. Farage never said anything against Putin as an MEP. Reform are basically a front for Putin.

Dom
Dom
2 days ago
Reply to  Jeff

Love that to be true and maybe right now there’s a Russian Edward Snowden getting ready to blow the whole global network sky high. What a movie franchise that will make. But the more depressing version is that humanity has always struggled with an element of weak-minded self-hating humanity-hating angry losers itching for a strongman cult leader to follow to their death. After Germany, Italy, Japan, Spain, Portugal, Russia and now America how many more examples do we need to convince us there’s a permanent problem element always looking for a new way to group up, a new political opportunist… Read more »

Last edited 2 days ago by Dom
algebra museums
algebra museums
2 days ago

Is he including the Saes in that? I’m pretty sure that we’d see the available housing in Cymru double is he was to do that. One of the many problems withdrawing arbitrary lines in the sand is that “your” arbitrary line in the sand is no less or more valid than any other person’s arbitrary line in the sand and sooner or later we’re all going to inevitably end up on the wrong side of somebody else’s arbitrary line in the sand. Let’s not forget that he is a registered supporter and has received gifts from the USA’s far right… Read more »

Johnny
Johnny
2 days ago

Is he a real life Gerry Anderson Puppet!

tokenwelshman
tokenwelshman
1 day ago

Martin is a nasty, snivelling, racist, pathetic excuse for a human. The people who voted him into our Senedd, along with his tinpot dictatorship colleagues, need to take a long hard look at themselves, and work out which side they are really on and who is really responsible for the problems in this country.

Nigel
Nigel
23 hours ago

No Ukrainian has ever had a go at me for speaking Cymraeg.

No Ukrainian would migrate to my country, then vote for a party that would remove my language.

No Ukrainian would migrate to my country and vote for a party that would remove the closest thing to democracy we have.

No Ukrainian would migrate to my country and pollute it with disgusting racism.

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