The Greens Must Stand Down

Ben Wildsmith
To be ‘of the left’ is to face constant disappointment: at the willingness of voters to fall for right-wing lies and, most painfully, at the unending capacity that our leading politicians have for self-sabotage.
‘Your Party’, the still officially unnamed vehicle for Zarah Sultana and Jeremy Corbyn’s new socialist enterprise has experienced a birth so difficult that the viability of the project is seriously in question.
What could have been a modern, grassroots operation with member-led policies and an egalitarian structure seems to have disintegrated into factional squabbling over control before any potential members even had a chance to open their mouths.
Recently forced to retract the offer of paid membership over data procedures, the Corbyn end of the operation, which features leading figures from his time as Labour leader, has had another go today.
The revised offer, which seems to sideline Sultana, includes a rule forbidding membership of other parties. Anyone dreaming of a progressive coalition existing under this umbrella will be dismayed by that news.
The immediate beneficiary of this nonsense is the Green Party. Zack Polanski’s leadership has attracted a lot of positive attention for a party that has traditionally seemed rather timid in its campaigning style.
If I was a betting man, I’d wager that the disaffected Labour vote in England is likely to swing substantially their way.
Bridgehead
Here in Wales, however, we have urgent electoral matters at hand. Nobody should underestimate the importance of October’s by-election in Caerphilly.
Victory for Reform UK would act as a bridgehead to success in next year’s Senedd elections, providing the party with legitimacy, visibility, and momentum. The party’s popularity in England is such that Nigel Farage’s path to Number 10 is looking clearer than anybody could have imagined even a few weeks ago.
This is reflected in the bullishness of his statements of late. Until recently, Farage had seemed to be tacking towards the centre, calculating that too few voters shared the hardline positions favoured by party activists.
Now, flying high in the polls, he is unconstrained. Yesterday, he made the preposterous Trumpite claim that immigrants are eating swans from royal parks. Swans are elegant substitutes for the ‘cats and dawgs’ that Trump claimed were feeding Haitian immigrants during his election campaign.
MAGA
It is reasonable to assume that a Reform UK government would ape the MAGA agenda in most respects, rolling back gun restrictions and attempting to impose a monoculture on an overwhelmingly peaceful and diverse nation.
This week’s threat to revoke indefinite leave to remain status is a direct attack on people who are contributing to a country that needs their labour.
The stakes, then, are extraordinarily high for people who don’t want to live in a militarised ethnostate with a decimated public sector.
Farage’s accession to power in Westminster would likely follow a period of chaotic opposition in the Senedd, and the prospect of Welsh democracy being the first scapegoated casualty of his rule is very real.
I was caught between fury and disbelief yesterday when I learned that the Greens intend to stand veteran journalist Gareth Hughes in the Caerphilly election.
Polling has Plaid Cymru a single vote clear of Reform, with Farage’s outfit papering the constituency with dishonest leaflets misrepresenting Plaid’s position on immigration.
Political home
The candidate has justified his decision to stand, despite the clear danger of splitting the vote, by claiming that unionist Labour supporters need a political home that doesn’t support independence.
Firstly, Green Party policy supports the right of self-determination for Wales, so this doesn’t stand up.
More importantly, though, on the environment, public services, and, yes, immigration, the distance between the two parties is so slight as to be bridgeable by any reasonable and competent politicians.
Mr Hughes should not be standing in this election. Anthony Slaughter’s Welsh Green Party should recognise the electoral realities on the ground and stand aside to prevent an outcome which could have catastrophic consequences for decades to come.
There are months in which to hammer out cooperation agreements for constituencies next year, but not so for this event.
Vanity
If the Green Party’s vanity is responsible for Reform UK winning in Caerphilly, much of the left in Wales will never forgive it.
If the Welsh section of the party is intransigent, then its UK leadership ought to recognise the potential PR disaster that this candidature throws up.
Mr Polanski, you’ve impressed many of us, don’t blow that goodwill now. Stand down your candidate and recognise the gravity of this moment in Welsh life.
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This is probably intentional. The left-left have backed the hard right at Westminster for most of the last century. No-one did more for Johnson, Brexit and killing voting reform than London Labour’s swivel-eyed loons. Seems it’s time for the same to happen in Wales.
Utter nonsense. Try blaming the Tories for the 14 years of chaos that they wrought upon the UK, or even the Lib Dems, for selling out their beliefs for a handful of ministerial cars. Labout, while admittedly fairly useless, aren’t responsible for any of the things you blamed them for.
“selling out their beliefs”
Politics isn’t a religion. If a failure to deal with the realities lets opponents in by the back door, who is really responsible for the chaos they cause?
You make a good point. While we all have our own take on which moral values benefit the wider society, politics is quite often a dirty game. Some voters pay slight attention to what is the real offer, and respond to the deluge of social media. Some leaders are very adept at influencing, others may belong in the pulpit.
The idiots who voted for them?
I know people from ‘Your Party’ who view Labour and Plaid Cymru as somehow in the same boat as Reform UK because they embrace the capitalist system. Some have even told me that Starmer is no different to Nigel Farage. I’m not defending Starmer but at least he isn’t trying to take us out of the ECHR or get rid of Indefinite Leave to Remain. So in some ways I do see where Bryson is coming from.
You make a good argument, Ben. I can’t fault it. What I don’t understand is why are the good Welsh folk supporting such a racist, not racist, but definitely racist party? Have immigrants really been that damaging to Wales? Do we eat swans, cats and dogs to any extent that nature and pet lovers detest us? We don’t eat these beautiful animals and it is so ludicrous and yet when that guy says it, my neighbours believe him. I just feel so much despair. And I have yet to hear anything from our recently elected reform councillor in Trowbridge and… Read more »
Reform activists are already talking about cutting back on spending on things like Welsh language provision when they become embedded in the Senedd. It has never been more important to vote for a candidate and a party that will represent the people of the constituency and our country. That is Caerphilly-born Lindsay Whittle.
I would have hoped that Plaid would have put up a younger and more dynamic candidate to face what will be a weather vane for May 2026.
You mean a fashion conscious verbally fluent copy of Plaid’s template cool candidate, the sort of man or woman who talks all day long but does nothing? Nah, stick with Whittle. He’ll be a difficult rival to any smarty from the other parties.
No, I don’t mean that. I mean a candidate who is comfortable with social media and can get an important message across to younger voters, who are particularly targeted by Reform.
I hope you prove me wrong, but I feel we are defending with bows and arrows, against a well-funded artillery.
I couldn’t agree less with this argument. People should have the right to vote for a Green Party candidate if they so wish. They should not be deprived of that right because it suits some grander political strategy. What it does point out is the need for the next election after May 2026 to be decided via the STV system. If candidates are unsuccessful in the first round, their votes pass to their second preference and so on. That way, no-one’s vote gets wasted.
Spot on. Perhaps Labour and the Liberals should stand down as well? They have no more chance of winning than the Greens. . Of course they won’t.
Why don’t reform stand down? Zero use of these guys to anything Welsh and what Wales needs. Thoroughly useless so far in Wales other than spreading discord, hatred and misinformation.
Because they could win!
Just because they can win doesn’t mean they should. There is an evil within them that spreads like a cloud of doom.
I don’t like Reform UK either, but its democracy.
Agree completely; there may well be voters in Caerffili who, to take an instance, don’t support Plaid’s independence agenda but who would want to cast a vote in favour of further addressing the climate crisis.
The Greens would be a natural choice for them. Why should they be denied that?
Um, because reform will win. They won here in Trowbridge and St Mellons because the anti reform votes were split between labour and lib dem.
That’s just the luck of the draw, democratically speaking.
But I’d take your point insofar as I’d have much preferred STV as the new voting system for Senedd elections from next May onwards.
Because we now have to face the danger of a Reform win. A green voter can safely vote Plaid, who also have a progressive approach to the climate crisis. It will be time to indulge doctrinal obsession when we have seen off the right-wing; until then, the Greens need to stop being stupid and arrogant. We don’t want a rerun of the Uxbridge by-election, when the Green vote was greater than the winning Conservative majority, thus letting the bad guys in again. Tactical voting now, moral voting when we can afford it.
I do take the point that you’re seeking to make, and, speaking personally, come the election next May my own vote will certainly go to Plaid. But then, in general, I feel disposed to back their agenda over that of the Greens even though I’m heartened by their members’ recent decision to instal Zack Polanski as their party leader. But even so, I’d never seek to discourage anyone from backing the candidate and the party of their choice because, when push comes to shove, I absolutely believe that the right to do so is intrinsic to our democracy – such… Read more »
Exactly but we don’t have STV so tactics is everything. We’ve never had the luxury of choosing what we actually want. Anyone who thought they did was probably wasting a vote or helping those they least wanted. It’s why so many don’t bother at all.
In principle, I’m 100% with you. However, the Caerffili election will not be held with that system, so this is a matter of expedience, rather than principle.
It does highlight the gross inadequacies of our political system. Closed lists ain’t the answer. Proportional representation is the only way to go.
Party lists are PR. There is no system more proportional:
https://electoral-reform.org.uk/voting-systems/types-of-voting-system/
Once again the most self serving and counter production of arguments. Voting for the lesser of two or more evils results in the ongoing evil of the lessers, the continuing downward spiral. How we got to where we are. Denying electoral choice reinforces Reform’s victim narrative that the world is rigged by established parties and vested interests. Substantial numbers appear to be willing to vote Reform, and with some determination, address THAT AND WHY! A far more crucial social and political question than the tactics of one Welsh by-election. If the Greens are inconsequential, then they will not register. Plaid… Read more »
Comparing historic voting for “the lesser of two evils” really understates what a threat Reform represents.
But that’s the consequence of a non-preference voting system. Tactical voting is baked in. Pretending that’s not the reality is delusional.
And don’t forget the majority rejected a preference voting system for Westminster elections in 2011. I assume you weren’t one of them.
Nonsense. Is Plaid feeling under threat from The Green Party? Seriously? Then maybe it should start taking a look at its own environmental policies.
A vote for the Greens is a vote for Reform. That’s the reality in Caerphilly.
From our experience in Trowbridge and St Mellons, you are unfortunately quite right.
Reform is an existential threat not just for Wales but the rest of the UK. We can argue the niceties of various electoral sytems, but unless we get behind Plaid, they will be a footnote in history.
I’m a Green Councillor in Cardiff, and sit with the Plaid Cymru Councillors as the Common Ground group on the Council. We have dialogue and if something like this came up in Cardiff we’d talk to each other at the very least. If Plaid didn’t reach out to discuss this before the horse had bolted, then publicly moaning isn’t going to do anything. No one is entitled to votes, and this feels awfully like the sort of lines Labour used to put out. I have sympathy for Plaid’s situation in Caerphilly; no party is in a position to match the… Read more »
If you had the power to prevent a Reform takeover, would you use it?
Good question.
If ever there was a case for tactical voting this is it. It is painfully obvious that Plaid Cymru is the only party that can beat Reform in this by-election. This is surely the most important outcome for Wales. This justifies the Lib-Dems, Greens and even Labour standing down or, at least, conducting a low-key campaign and tacitly hinting that their supporters might, in this election, lend their vote to Plaid.
I’m quite curious why this site is allergic to Gwlad, failing to mention our first-class local candidate despite being among the first to stand.
Could it be because Gwlad is a fringe party of no consequence and will have zero impact on the election?
Sounds like you are wedded to the status quo yet feel very threatened when the big bogey man appears from the east. Gwlad present a healthy alternative in some places, and their candidates probably stack up a lot better than some of the cloned puppets turning out for other parties.
Will they be recruiting more English racists or have they committed not to do that anymore? I’m not afraid of Gwlad and no one else is. If you believe any party is, you really need to get out more. 😂
The very same argument was used against Plaid by Labour to stop the Torries getting in. It didn’t hold water then, and it doesn’t know. The electors deserve a choice.
The Greens are authoritarians with a disingenuous pitch on a sovereign Wales. It has worked. The Grangetown by-election recently was comedic in a sense. After leaving the union with Plaid, the Greens won the seat. Alone they last got 1.5%, whilst Plaid got 44%. Plaid Cymru dropped to 18% recently. Hilarious tbh. Union = Common Ground party in Cardiff, where they stood together. YES Cymru embraces the English Greens, whereas Propel &;Gwlad are excluded. Hey ho…
Happy this aged poorly. Whatever merit this argument may have had for the Caerphilly by-election has happily been proven moot. I’d caution Plaid supporters and proxies to avoid the traps Labour fell into both acting entitled to left votes and scaring voters with the reform binary. Both have failed. In any case, not only is the Senedd election PR (so any argument that it’s a two horse race is a bare faced lie), but in reality, smaller parties such as the Greens or Lib Dems will, in a handful of constituencies, . prevent reform or tory seats by nabbing the… Read more »