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The politics of devolving policing could work for both Labour and Plaid

04 Sep 2026 6 minute read
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Jonathan Edwards

During last week’s visit to Port Talbot the new Prime Minister, Andy Burnham, got those of us who are interested in constitutional matters very excited with his statement that he was open to the idea of devolving policing powers to Wales.

Despite it being the policy of the last Labour Welsh Government, previous calls for the devolution of policing have made little waves in Westminster under both Tory and Labour administrations.

However, during his visit the Prime Minister said: “That’s an issue I’m certainly prepared to look at, and I hear what you’re saying. As a former mayor that had those responsibilities, I understand how much you can do when you can really make policing right for the places and the people where you are.

“So, I hear that call, I’m open to the discussion with the Welsh Government. As part of the wider policing reform that’s going on, it seems a good time to have a look at those issues. So, I can’t promise today, but what I can say is I’m open to the conversation.”

Not a cast iron guarantee, but not a blunt refusal to consider the matter either.

Mr Burnham is not a naïve communicator, and he knows that by not shutting down the debate his words change the political conversation. What was once improbable is now possible. When questioned by Plaid Westminster leader Liz Saville-Roberts during Prime Minister’s Questions this week, the line was similar.

His words were not met warmly by Labour MPs from Wales, one of whom described the devolution of policing as a “travesty” and not in the “interests of Wales”.

I am not entirely sure how devolving policing would be a travesty. Operationally, policing is already devolved in Northern Ireland and Scotland, and as Mr Burnham explained in his comments, some of the large city mayors in England also have powers which are currently denied to the Welsh Government. Cross-border cooperation therefore is well established within the UK.

Financially also, if Barnett allocations were passed on fully by the Welsh Government to the police, the funding situation would be more or less neutral. Looking at the Police Grant by the Home Office for this financial year for Welsh forces published by the Home Office in its statement to the House of Commons last January, Dyfed Powys received £80.6m; Gwent £114.9m; North Wales £116.4m; and South Wales £254.4m. A total Home Office allocation of £566.3m.

The total Home Office allocations for English and Welsh forces was £11,939.9m.

A quick glance at the figures indicates that Welsh policing would still gain a little if funded via Barnett allocations following devolution as opposed to current arrangements, though admittedly the figures seem less advantageous than when I last looked at them some years ago. The police of course are also funded from other sources, primarily the local precept, and a more detailed study would be required to consider the financial aspects of devolving policing by those with access to the full picture.

Regardless, the main purpose of this article is to consider the political considerations surrounding the devolution of policing for both Plaid Cymru and Labour as the respective governing parties at Welsh and UK level.

Plaid will undoubtedly grasp this moment as an opportunity to press home its main constitutional objective of devolving justice powers in its entirety.

The Thomas Commission

Policing is probably the most important aspect of the portfolio of powers it seeks which includes the recommendations of the Thomas Commission of 2017, namely legislative devolution of justice to the Senedd, executive devolution of justice functions to the Welsh Government and the formal recognition of Welsh law as distinct from English law.

Any progress would be a major victory for Plaid. The party is likely to find itself swamped by, the responsibility of the day-to-day running of the Welsh Government, its energies consumed by the minutiae of governance. They would be overjoyed to have a big constitutional win to point to from their first term as the main party of government in our country.

Some Labour MPs might not be too overjoyed at the prospect of giving Plaid a political gift. However there is a strong case to make that their own narrow interests might be best served with giving the Prime Minister the freedom to follow his instincts.

General election

A general election could well come sooner than later. Labour MPs who could normally expect to walk home are now in a dog fight to keep their seats. Key to seeing off their challengers is for Labour to regain those voters who switched to Plaid in the Senedd election. At the next election they are going to need more than a tactical voting narrative to see them home.

Progressive voters who have been lost will need a positive reason to return home. Regrasping their mantle as the party of devolution is an obvious strategic imperative.

They would also be able to deprive Plaid of the “Labour Westminster says no” narrative it will surely employ.

Labour could more than legitimately claim credit for delivering such change. After all, any devolution must come from legislation proposed by the UK Government. Furthermore, as stated earlier, the devolution of justice and police powers were established Labour-led Welsh Government positions.

Debate

By opening the debate around the devolution of policing powers, the Prime Minister has fired up a wider debate about the future direction of the Labour Party in Wales and ignited the forever battle between the party’s pro-Wales and unionist factions.

The interesting paradox of the current situation, I suppose, is that following Labour’s drubbing at the Senedd election, power within Labour in Wales has moved to the pro-union forces. However, the elevation of Mr Burnham means that the highest political office in the UK is held by someone who is inherently anti-Westminster.

The scene is set for a bit of an identity crisis for Labour in Wales which will need to be addressed decisively.

Labour strategists when they take a deep breath will surely conclude that there can be no rebirth for the party in Wales if it positions itself as a devo-sceptic party.

Jonathan Edwards was the MP for Carmarthen East and Dinefwr 2010-24


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Walter Hunt
Walter Hunt
20 days ago

Mr Edwards writes that “Operationally, policing is already devolved in Northern Ireland and Scotland”. “Operational independence” of the police is one of the claimed pillars of the unwritten British constitution. Beyond funding and legislation, how much influence should politicians have over policing? With the abolition of elected Police and Crime Commissioners in May 2028, there is a timely opportunity. Mr Burnham can say: “Behold, my promised devolution!”, and the WG: ” We are standing up for Wales – Result!”. How much difference devolution of policing “powers” would actually make without legislative independence for Wales is another question again.

hdavies15
hdavies15
20 days ago
Reply to  Walter Hunt

A good time to revise how policing is organised in Wales. A single force – Heddlu Cymru- would make sense. Place the H.Q in midWales, anywhere between Brecon and Dolgellau – Newtown, not Cardiff. Set up further devolved 4 operational centres N,S,E, and W with full crime prevention and detection capacity.

smae
smae
20 days ago
Reply to  hdavies15

A good counter argument to this is *drumroll* Scotland. They did the very same thing, combined the police forces into a single force and it’s been trying to dig itself out of political holes ever since. Response times in remote locations quickly became a concern, cultural frictions were inflamed and priorities skewed away from the communities that I suspect you actually want to support. We have four police forces in Wales that genuinely need to be there as they cover wildly different crime challenges. You have Newport and Cardiff, which involves heavily urban crime along with the valleys. Then you… Read more »

Peter J
Peter J
19 days ago
Reply to  hdavies15

One family member of mine is a serving senior police officer. Their biggest concern is a Cardiff centric operation. NWP works very closely with Cheshire and Merseyside on so much serious crime is cross border. Having the independence to do this is essential and focusing resources to Cardiff will inevitably lead to worse outcomes.

Andy Williams
Andy Williams
19 days ago

“Some of the large city mayors in England, have powers denied to the W.G” I didn’t know that. Where have the so called Welsh Labour Party been, since 1999? To me proves a point, they put party and their own careers before our nation. Disgusting!!!!

Peter J
Peter J
19 days ago

‘large city mayors in England also have powers which are currently denied to the Welsh Government’ this is not strictly correct. The mayors are also the PCCs in a few areas (not all). In Wales we elect our own PCCs so they are also democratically elected.
Maybe the point we should be asking in Wales is why people like Burnham could be a PCC and a mayor at the same time- maybe the PCC is actually a part time job and doesn’t justify a 250k annual budget?

Peter J
Peter J
19 days ago

What is disappointing in the argument is how little input there is from police or the judiciary, or former senior police staff.
Maybe we should ask them what they think is best?
A politician who has never served in such a role, and a public who don’t really know what the police do might not be the best people to lead this debate.
In all these articles, I’m yet to see one convincing reason why operationally police services would improve.

John G
John G
19 days ago

Considering the cluster…we have made of education, the economy, NHS etc over the last 27 years, now may not be the right time. I suggest we try to get those bits right first.

Llew Gruffudd
Llew Gruffudd
19 days ago

While the piece separates the political from the financial, that cannot be. Under the present constitutional arrangements Wales would be taking on a cost without the means to meet any unknowns. Policing would be an element of the Budget and its financing subject to the same political pressures as other parts of the economy. Put under the control of the Welsh government, the expectation in Wales will be for improvements. That, under a fixed grant income is by no means guaranteed. The example of Scotland is interesting in that they, having these controls, are being subject to the calls for… Read more »

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