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Crown Estate plans new Mabinogi-named wind farms off Welsh coast amid devolution calls

12 Nov 2021 4 minute read
Picture by Andy Dingley (CC BY-SA 3.0).

The Crown Estate have revealed that they are planning new Mabinogi-named wind farms off the coast of Wales.

Llŷr 1 and Llŷr 2, named after the father of Bendigedfran in Welsh mythology, will be built off the coast of Pembrokeshire alongside two other wind farms called Erebus and, nearer the coast of south-west England, White Cross.

The Llŷr and White Cross wind farms will be “test and demonstration scale projects” for full-commercial scale projects of up to 1GW.

The leasing process could see rights awarded by the end of 2023, with projects delivered from 2030 into the early part of the next decade.

The development comes following a campaign by Plaid Cymru, to be considered by the Welsh Government, to transfer the £500m Crown Estate to Welsh control.

Powers over the management of Crown Estate in Wales are still held in Westminster, and the revenues proceed directly to the UK Government’s Treasury.

In the Senedd on Wednesday the Climate Change Minister Julie James said there would be “undoubtedly a financial benefit, as is very obvious in Scotland, of having the Crown Estate devolved”.

The new wind farms planned would be big enough to power almost four million homes under the plans set out by the Crown Estate. The organisation said that it intended to award leases by the end of 2023.

The UK Government wants 1GW of floating wind generation operating in UK waters by 2030, up from 80 megawatts today.

Huub den Rooijen, Crown Estate managing director of marine, said that the Celtic Sea was “eminently suitable for floating wind because it is deep”.

“We have learnt that you need to invest early on in industrial capability for these industries to compete successfully,” he said.

The project could create opposition in the south-west of Wales as it could necessitate the need for more power cables. The Crown Estate said they would work with the National Grid to try and avoid that.

‘Half a billion’

The value of the Crown Estate Wales’ renewable assets grew from £49.2m in 2020 to £549.1m in 2021, but that wealth was hoarded in the south east of England, Plaid Cymru MP Liz Saville Roberts said.

Last month she urged the Prime Minister to put his ‘levelling up’ rhetoric into action by using the upcoming COP26 climate summit in Glasgow to “entrust the people of Wales with the means to manage our offshore wind and tidal resources for everyone’s benefit”.

Liz Saville Roberts said: “If COP26 is to be successful, people must be at the heart of our net zero mission. For too long, the UK economy has left too many people behind while wealth and investment hoarded in the south east of England.

“Devolving powers over the Crown Estate would bring half a billion pounds worth of offshore wind and tidal stream potential under Welsh control – assets currently controlled by Westminster. Scotland, meanwhile already has these powers.

“Will he support my Bill to devolve the management of the Crown Estate to Wales?”

The value of the Crown Estate Wales’ renewable assets grew from £49.2m in 2020 to £549.1m in 2021, but that wealth was hoarded in the south east of England, Liz Saville Roberts said.

She urged the Prime Minister to put his ‘levelling up’ rhetoric into action by using the upcoming COP26 climate summit in Glasgow to “entrust the people of Wales with the means to manage our offshore wind and tidal resources for everyone’s benefit”.

Speaking in the House of Commons today, Liz Saville Roberts said: “If COP26 is to be successful, people must be at the heart of our net zero mission. For too long, the UK economy has left too many people behind while wealth and investment hoarded in the south east of England.

“Devolving powers over the Crown Estate would bring half a billion pounds worth of offshore wind and tidal stream potential under Welsh control – assets currently controlled by Westminster. Scotland, meanwhile already has these powers.

“Will he support my Bill to devolve the management of the Crown Estate to Wales?”


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Catherine Hill
Catherine Hill
10 months ago

Well, at least we won’t have to rename it when we reclaim Cymru, very thoughtful of them.

Dale McElwee
10 months ago
Reply to  Catherine Hill

You will have to buy them back off to the UK.

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
10 months ago
Reply to  Dale McElwee

No need seeing Wales hemorrhage trillions in tax taken by the English Treasury with our water, coal & slate resource. They automatically become ours. And that figure doesn’t include all the interest accrued since the industrial revolution to the present day.

Barry Pandy
Barry Pandy
10 months ago
Reply to  Dale McElwee

Please explain how will we have to buy back our own territorial waters?

Rhosddu
Rhosddu
10 months ago
Reply to  Dale McElwee

Why? Did Scotland have to “buy them back”?

Andrew
Andrew
10 months ago

According to one of the interpretations, the children of Llyr were the powers of darkness battling the powers of light? Llyr is also the god of the sea. Will the lights stay on?

Grayham Jones
10 months ago

We in wales have got to stop being little Englanders and and be proud to be welsh it’s time for a new wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Dai Rob
Dai Rob
10 months ago
Reply to  Grayham Jones

lol!!

Steve Duggan
Steve Duggan
10 months ago

Well the increase in just a year explains why Westminster and the Crown are against devolving control of these assets. Greed. Nothing unusual after centuries of stripping Welsh assets for the benefit of a few in SE England. However, we must now turn this to our advantage in the fight for independence by imagining the wealth Wales could generate for itself with complete control. We have to use this vision to inspire out youth, get them thinking – what if? Independence will be won, not by facts and figures but by us all being excited by what we can potentially… Read more »

j humphrys
j humphrys
10 months ago
Reply to  Steve Duggan

Scuse butting in, folks, look over England’s head at those small countries that make up the bulk of the EU for example. See how much better they are doing than us as members of the UK. Independence is a no brainer. YES CYMRU!

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Gaynor Jones
Gaynor Jones
10 months ago
Reply to  j humphrys

Think you are a bit off target there re Estonia bach, seems to be more like 1300€ and as for Romania, 50 yrs of commie shenanigans no wonder its a mess. Yet Malta Ireland, Finland, Iceland, Slovenia, Croatia, all doing quite well.

Dale McElwee
10 months ago
Reply to  Gaynor Jones

Sorry I referred to the pension – see the minimum wages of these countries here :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_Union_member_states_by_minimum_wage

Ireland is a tax haven with no universal healthcare, a very recent adoption of abortion and one of the largest institutional levels of child abuse in the world.

What does Wales have in common with Iceland?

Steve Duggan
Steve Duggan
10 months ago
Reply to  Dale McElwee

Admittedly, not every small country is a beacon of prosperity but Wales can be, we have the resources and our GDP is bigger than many small nations around the world. We have to try, we won’t know unless we try.

GW Atkinson
GW Atkinson
10 months ago

How generous of the English while they steal our resources.

R W
R W
10 months ago
Reply to  GW Atkinson

Yawn

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
10 months ago
Reply to  GW Atkinson

Sorry, you are wrong. Learn your bloody history! Wales is not part of the UK. We were England’s first trophy nation and blueprint used that aided their subsequent Empire. We were invaded in 1282. Our Monarch murdered .Then our various Kingdoms usurped leading to our country strangled starting with the iron ring castle building of Edward the 1st. And then we were annexed with the 1535-1542 Act of Union Wales resulting in our Welsh Laws of Hywel Dda, codified before the English and England even existed as a people & country, were dissolved, our language & culture banned by Royal… Read more »

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Barry Pandy
Barry Pandy
10 months ago
Reply to  GW Atkinson

No it’s for the benefit of the south-east of England whose own renewable resources are inadequate for their needs, hence their exploitation of resources from other countries (and yes Wales is a country). The so-called United Kingdom is a union in name only. Its raison d’etre is to facilitate the exploitation of Wales, Scotland and, for that matter, Northumbria for the benefit of southern England. The very fact that they our colonial masters make reference to the ‘home counties’ speaks volumes. The sooner the so-called united kingdom is dissolved the better and I include the breakup of England in that… Read more »

Crwtyddol
Crwtyddol
10 months ago

Re: Crown Estate income: Another good example of the different privileges Scotland enjoys over Wales

Malcolm rj
Malcolm rj
10 months ago
Reply to  Crwtyddol

Also free train travel for the over 60 yrs old in northern irlande they also
control the crown estate income where are you Welsh labour MPs you don’t stand up for Wales you never have freedom for Wales I can’t wait

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
10 months ago

Oh, we are so grateful our superior overlords Those nice Wind Turbines blighting the Welsh coastline given names from the four branches of the Mabinogi thus leaving Devon and Cornwall picture postcard seascapes untainted. Makes you feel all warm inside. Does the Crown Estate seriously think by naming Turbines with ancient Welsh bards & warriors like Taliesin or Aneirin will result in little old Taffy compliance & capitulation and it’s back to business as usual screwing the Welsh of £500 million rightfully theirs? Do me a favour. They are totally removed from reality. Time we controlled our own coastline by… Read more »

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