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Welsh Tories cite poll in call for investiture for Prince of Wales

29 Sep 2022 3 minute read
Left: Prince William. Picture by Frankie Fouganthin (CC 4.0). Right: Welsh Conservative Shadow Minister for Culture and Tourism, Tom Giffard MS.

Welsh Conservatives are calling for the Prince of Wales to have an investiture, despite him having no plans for “any kind” of an investiture like the 1969 event.

Recent reports understand William has no plans for “any kind” of an investiture like the ceremony staged for the King back in 1969, and is focused on “deepening the trust and respect” of the people of Wales over time.

Charles’ investiture at Caernarfon castle in 1969 drew protests including Cymdeithas yr Iaith’s non-violent mass protests, to more direct threats from the Free Wales Army and Mudiad Amddiffyn Cymru.

‘Poll support’

Citing a recent YouGov poll, conducted for ITV Cymru Wales and Cardiff University, Welsh Tories say it “puts support for an investiture for the Prince of Wales at 49% with 17% unsure,” adding: “Prince William is viewed favourably by 75% of Wales and 74% think he will do a good job in his new role.”

Welsh Conservative Shadow Minister for Culture and Tourism, Tom Giffard MS said: “Three quarters of the Welsh public have a favourable view of the Prince of Wales and think he will do a good job.

“A clear plurality of Wales supports an investiture of some kind. The honorary title of The Prince of Wales should not be controversial.”

He felt the title itself had a benefit to Wales.

“The position itself is an economic asset, particularly to the tourism industry, in Wales. Just as UK tourism benefits from the Royal Family to the tune of millions each year, an investiture will bring in people from far and wide to enjoy the event, adding to the Welsh economy.

“The naysayers in Labour and Plaid Cymru are yet again putting their ideology above the prosperity of Wales.”

Poll details

On the subject of an investiture, the poll specifically states that 34% of those taking part are against one, 19 per cent in favour of a 1969-style event, and 20 per cent in favour of an investiture with a different kind of ceremony to Carnarfon in 1969.

Charles III announced that he was making William and Kate the new Prince and Princess of Wales during his first speech as King; a petition against continuing with the Prince of Wales title has now attracted more than 35,000 signatures.

King Charles didn’t want to be Prince of Wales “any more than he wanted a headache” the former custodian of Caernarfon Castle has recently said.

First Minister Mark Drakeford has previously strongly suggested that any new investiture need not follow the pattern set in 1969.

 


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David
David
1 month ago

A poll of about 1,000 people compared to a petition of 35,000+!

George Atkinson
George Atkinson
1 month ago

How about they do it in Caernarfon again and we shall see how popular these inbred cuckoos really are. They think the 60’s was bad, lets see how they fare in 2022.

SundanceKid
SundanceKid
1 month ago

They are deluded if they believe there won’t be any protests in Cardiff either!

Gareth
Gareth
1 month ago

With the whole UK economy going down the pan, is this it from the Tory party in cymru. Not even an acknowledgment of how people are struggling, or some sort of plan to help. Waste more money again, while the poor starve.

David Zenati-Parsons
David Zenati-Parsons
1 month ago

Do it Tory boy, I could do with another day out with my Yes Cymru banner. See you Saturday people.

Marc Davies
Marc Davies
1 month ago

As they systematically crash the economy, it is fascinating to watch the Tories cling on to the gilded aprons of the English Royal Family. They’ve finally realised that the Windsor ensemble are their last roll of the dice in the ‘Saving the UK’ project. Pathetic, in so many ways.

Marc
Marc
1 month ago

49% is not a majority and didn’t I read that the Tory’s want to make future independence referendum only valid if a yes vote reaches something like 75% and a similar result in strike action ballots? Utter hypocrisy!

Gareth
Gareth
1 month ago
Reply to  Marc

Yes 75%, and at that level, consistently over a period of 10 years for a indy vote, laughable hypocrisy. But it is the Tory party we are talking about.

David
David
1 month ago
Reply to  Gareth

Given the chance, Labour will agree also to 75%.

Mary-Rose Sinclair
Mary-Rose Sinclair
1 month ago

Now is not the time for expensive ceremonies. Any money available should be spent aiding desperate people to survive. How are they going to feed, clothe and house their families over the winter with rents likely to rise, council tax rises needed to supply the services provided and the rising cost of food. We value the Council services , refuse collection, planning controls, social services helping the sick and vulnerable, education and the rest but they cost money to provide. Spend the money on that. The title has already been allocated. There should be no money for a mock medieval… Read more »

Frank
Frank
1 month ago

It would probably be rigged in favour of an investiture before voting began.

I.Humphrys
I.Humphrys
1 month ago

William and Kate don’t want an investiture, but rather a Scandinavian style role, and people are happy with this. The Tories are hoping to whip their donkey of a party from its death throes in Cymru by creating more division.

Last edited 1 month ago by I.Humphrys
SundanceKid
SundanceKid
1 month ago
Reply to  I.Humphrys

How do you know they don’t want an investiture?

I think they are just putting it off for the time being, because they are afraid that they will be jeered!

They lead very lavish lifestyles in comparison to their Scandinavian counterparts.

Last edited 1 month ago by SundanceKid
David Charles pearn
David Charles pearn
1 month ago
Reply to  SundanceKid

What’s getting the Welsh population is the title Prince of Wales, with himself not being Welsh.

Llyn
Llyn
1 month ago

“The position [Prince of Wales] itself is an economic asset, particularly to the tourism industry, in Wales.” Where is the evidence to back up this claim? I have never heard that anyone has ever travelled to Wales for the only reason that we have a Prince of Wales.

Andy Williams
1 month ago
Reply to  Llyn

I’m still trying to work out, how many jobs, did Charlie boy create, whilst P of W.

Fi yn unig
Fi yn unig
1 month ago

When Tories want to ram home the insult, it is absolutely fair, right and indeed time that we call them THE ANTI WELSH PARTY – OFFICIAL!

Argol fawr!
Argol fawr!
1 month ago

OK, tories in Wales, using your method of interpretation such polling results, if we get 34% calling for independence and 17% unsure that makes a 51% majority wanting Wales divorced from England. That’ll do for me! Even though I guess Mr Gifford’s maths GCSE (assuming he has one) is as crooked as his political party.

Quornby
Quornby
1 month ago

The economy is shattered and the Truss government has no solutions. Meanwhile this archaic English Royal nonsense is top of the “Welsh” tories concerns. Only silly old biddies and soap opera fans give a damn you muppets.

Wrexhamian
Wrexhamian
1 month ago

49% does not constitute a majority.

Andy Williams
1 month ago

Andrew RT Davies, Prince of Wales ( I’m only joking, I promise you)

SundanceKid
SundanceKid
1 month ago

Sorry, but 49% is still not a majority!

David Charles pearn
David Charles pearn
1 month ago

Can’t these tories get anything right they really are bloody useless.

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