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Equal status with Scotland? Labour knows best

09 Aug 2025 12 minute read
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Stephen Price

Welsh Secretary Jo Stevens formally confirmed that the UK Government will not devolve Crown Estate revenues to Wales this week in response to a letter sent to Keir Starmer from YesCymru

In a letter addressed to YesCymru’s directors, Ms Stevens stated: “The Crown Estate has played a significant role in attracting international investment into Wales to support the UK’s net zero target and will continue to do so. In June, the Crown Estate announced a partnership with Equinor and Gwynt Glas to develop two new floating offshore wind projects in the Celtic Sea. It is estimated that this new industry will support over 5,000 new jobs and deliver a £1.4bn boost to the UK economy. This is hugely significant to Wales and will help to deliver transformational change to areas such as Port Talbot.

“I am therefore pleased that the Crown Estate is contributing to clean and renewable energy generation in Wales in a number of ways. This includes investment for Welsh projects to help build the supply chain for the offshore wind sector as part of £400m of Crown Estate funding to support new infrastructure for offshore wind projects across the UK.

“Wales will also benefit from the Crown Estate’s first commercial leasing round for floating offshore wind, as well as investment in tidal energy development and support for the HiNet carbon capture cluster.”

Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer with Wales’ First Minister Eluned Morgan (left) and Welsh Secretary Jo Stevens (right) on a visit to RAF Valley on Ynys Môn. Photo Paul Currie/PA Wire

“The Crown Estate works closely with the Welsh Government and Natural Resources Wales in support of shared priorities, ensuring that these resources are sustainably managed for the long term. This government’s focus is on taking maximum advantage of the opportunities floating offshore wind presents for Wales using all available levers within the existing devolution settlement.

“The Crown Estate’s work will continue to deliver for Wales, particularly in creating well paid green jobs, advancing research and development across various sectors while reducing domestic energy costs. This is why I have worked across government to create a Crown Estate Commissioner with special responsibility for Wales for the first time. This will ensure the interests of Wales are fully reflected in the Crown Estate’s work.

“The work of the Crown Estate will be further strengthened by its partnership with Great British Energy, which has the potential to leverage up to £60bn of private investment into the UK’s drive for energy independence. It is this government’s view that devolving the Crown Estate and introducing a new entity would risk market fragmentation, complicate existing processes, and delay further development offshore.”

Blah blah blah

The letter continued:“Furthermore, devolution would mean Wales losing access to Crown Estate investment that comes from its revenues in England. It would also risk undermining investment in floating offshore wind, which is needed to provide lower bills, cleaner energy, and better jobs. This government is focussed on delivering these objectives and so does not support the devolution of the Crown Estate in Wales.

“Even if devolution could be done without risking the revenues the Crown Estate generates, this would not automatically lead to an increase in the funding available to the Welsh Government. This is because any revenues retained by the Welsh Government in a devolved system would likely be offset through reductions to their block grant as is currently the case in Scotland.

“Creating an artificial border through the Celtic Sea would also complicate crucially important work to develop the floating offshore wind industry, particularly as floating offshore wind lease areas straddle the Wales/England border. I hope this information proves useful to you.”

The condescension of that last line.

“Westminster says no”

In a social media post, YesCymru’s directors said: “Despite the backing of all 22 Welsh councils and the clear economic case for Welsh control over our own natural resources, Westminster says no.

“Instead of trusting Wales to manage our seas, energy, and future, they’re protecting the status quo – where decisions about Wales are made in London, and profits flow out of Wales.

“This is not just a constitutional issue – it’s about fairness, democracy, and economic justice.”

In response, a protest demanding justice for Wales met at the YesCymru stall on the Eisteddfod Maes in Wrexham at 1pm on Friday August 8.

During the protest, Yes Cymru Chair Phyl Griffiths and Director Rob Hughes delivered powerful speeches demanding control of our own resources.

Phyl Griffiths said: “The Crown Estate proves that the practice of extraction is still alive in 21st century Wales and has resulted in all 22 authorities speaking with one voice, underlining the fact we’re a nation.

“The London government’s response to our call to transfer control of the Crown Estate to Wales, however, only proves that they see us as nothing more than a region of the UK.”

Rob Hughes said: “Jo Stevens’ insulting response to the will of the people of Wales is a dark day to those who still cling to the hope that the union will prevail.

“A growing number of Welsh citizens now see independence as inevitable and YesCymru firmly believes that it will come far quicker than anyone expects.”

YesCymru has pledged to intensify the campaign in response to Westminster’s refusal to respect the will of the Welsh people, with further actions and announcements to be shared with members and supporters in the coming weeks.

Insufficiently other

The issue of disparity between the devolved nations rears its angry head on quite the regular basis, but the question over the fairness of the situation has reached boiling point lately amid growing dissatisfaction with the Crown Estate.

Spurred on by the green energy gold-rush, along with scrutiny over the large swathes of land (and their profits) owned by a colonising power here in Wales, calls are being repeated for Wales to receive the same control over the Crown Estate that Scotland has.

King Charles III during the State Opening of Parliament – Image: Leon Neal

But it’s not just this one area where Wales lacks both the same level of power granted by the land next door.

Even down to the number of public holidays we have, Wales always seems to be last in line.

Devolution

The UK has had devolved governments since the late 1990s, which work alongside the Westminster Parliament.

There are different types of devolution across the UK’s nations and parts of England.

For many years England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland were run by the UK government, based in Westminster in London, but there were growing calls to transfer some of this power to Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast.

Public votes about devolution were held in 1997 in Scotland and Wales, and on both sides of the Northern Irish/Irish border in 1998 as part of the Good Friday Agreement.

The UK government in Westminster remains responsible for policies which affect just England, as well as overall policy in a number of areas.

These include defence and national security, foreign policy, immigration, citizenship and tax – although Scotland has its own powers to raise and lower income tax.

Wales

The Senedd’s responsibilities include:

  • Agriculture, forestry and fishing
  • Education
  • Environment
  • Health and social care
  • Housing
  • Local government
  • Highways and transport
  • Some control over income tax, land transaction tax (known commonly as ‘stamp duty’), and landfill tax
  • Welsh language

Scotland

Scotland already had its own legal and education system. After devolution, it has become responsible for many areas, including:

  • Agriculture, forestry and fishing
  • Education
  • Environment
  • Health
  • Housing
  • Justice, policing and courts
  • Local government
  • Some transport
  • Taxes including income tax, stamp duty and air passenger duty
  • Some welfare powers
  • Crown Estate

Northern Ireland

Devolution in Northern Ireland is different to Scotland and Wales, with government powers divided into three categories:

  1. Transferred powers are controlled by the Northern Ireland Assembly
  2. Reserved powers remain with Westminster, but could be transferred in the future, these include prisons and civil defence
  3. Excepted powers cannot be moved to the Northern Ireland Assembly without special laws being made in Westminster. They include elections and national defence

The main powers of the Northern Ireland Assembly include:

  • Agriculture
  • Education
  • Environment and planning
  • Health and social services
  • Local government
  • Justice, policing and prisons
  • Control over air passenger duty
  • Transport
  • Culture, language and sport

Wexit

Wales only has control over some areas of tax unlike Scotland. And Wales lacks the same power over justice, policing and courts.

The Senedd and Pierhead Building, image by Sarah Morgan Jones

Concentrating on Scotland for ease, though, are we less of a different people to the English than our Celtic cousins, despite having greater numbers still speaking our native language?

Is it our smaller population or land mass?

Is it our reputation for being too friendly for our own good?

Is ‘England and Wales’ already asking for too much?

Or are we just easier to appease at the ballot box with our undying love of a rebranded red rosette?

Various Commissions have recommended the devolution of further powers, such as certain tax powers, policing or the legal jurisdiction, with some but not all of these recommendations having been implemented thus far.

This has led to Wales having fewer areas of responsibility than Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Before the UK blindly walked into the ongoing chaos that is Brexit, many were calling for an ‘off the peg’ status for the UK in line with others that have ‘special relationships’ such as Norway, but knowing what we were actually voting for was far too sensible an option for anyone to explore further.

Similarly, wouldn’t it be easier, more sensible, for everyone if the devolved nations had equal powers? The same number of public holidays?

Raise your flag 

But we shouldn’t let equality with Scotland be our end goal.

The last thing we need are squabbles over the amount of crumbs our natural, historical allies have in comparison with our own.

Our goal should be absolute equality with England, too.

While the offer of independence is yet to be presented or (as I would have it) simply declared, in the words of Mike Hedges MS, “we need a full overhaul of the devolution settlement to Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.”

Eisteddfod Genedlaethol © Aled Llywelyn

Even when combined, the populations of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are dwarfed by England’s, and Westminster will naturally reflect the will of the majority – and certainly not the will of the people of Wales.

While it still exists, we need a federal Kingdom united by equality – a devolved England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales each having the same powers, no more and no less, and the same number of public holidays. How is this acceptable?

We need to be bolder, and not ask for the profits from Crown Estate lands, but the complete handover of the land itself, and greater openness over who else owns our land at our own expense.

“The poor relation”

Back in December, Plaid Cymru again called for Wales to be given parity with Scotland on devolved powers.

Rhun ap Iorwerth warned Wales remains the “poor relation” among devolved nations in policy areas ranging from rail, justice and tax to welfare benefits and the Crown estate.

Huw Irranca-Davies raised concerns about a “for Wales, see Scotland”-style approach, maintaining that the Welsh Government’s guiding principle will always be what is in the best interests of the people of Wales.

In keeping with the attitude of Jo Stevens, he said, quite incredibly: “We don’t want to copy and paste the devolution settlement from somewhere else,” adding: “That would actually be imitation, not devolution.”

Labour has let the entire UK down with one error of judgment after the next, not least its bloody-handed support for the war on Gaza followed by a predictable softening of their approach after the entire region could take no more of our home-grown bombs.

 

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For those who believe that all lives are sacred, that homes, schools, places of worship and hospitals are places of sanctuary (remember when Israel didn’t bomb that one hospital, anyone?), and that those waiting in line for crumbs don’t deserve to be shot in the testicles, or killed outright, Labour is no longer the party for them.

And for anyone in Wales that wishes to live their lives on equal footing with their neighbours, their brothers and sisters, Labour is no longer the party for them either.

Mercifully, the party is under threat following a surge in support for the new left wing party being set up by Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana and I for one cannot wait for the next general election, and hope their offering for Wales is a serious one.

The Labour Party (typically) had much to say when in opposition in Westminster, and telling our nation that they know better with regard to the Crown Estate, with our own stolen land, despite every council in Wales saying otherwise, is the final, unforgivable straw.

Without the need for us to vote in the lesser of two evils in our Senedd elections next year, Labour’s time is up.

Shame on them.


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David Richards
David Richards
3 months ago

Governor General Steven’s contemptible statement on the devolution of the crown estates to Wales came the day after Rachel Reeves’ tone deaf statement on fair funding for Wales. You could almost feel sorry for poor Eluned Morgan who somehow has to try to explain to the Welsh electorate next May why it is her colleagues in the UK Labour govt are treating Wales with such contempt.

Ernie The Smallholder
Ernie The Smallholder
3 months ago
Reply to  David Richards

If Eluned Morgan didn’t agree with what the UK is doing to Wales, she could always jump ship to our own party in Wales: Plaid Cymru. If still wants to be a UK unionist with England the new Left wing party ‘Your Party’ right now ! Remember, Sultana did voted against devolution of the Crown estates. No excuses, The leaders of UK Labour are all the same, and people that stay in that party (which has its political decisions controlled from the centre) are complicit in this betrayal of Wales and everyone else on the British Isles. The only party… Read more »

Last edited 3 months ago by Ernie The Smallholder
Lyn E
Lyn E
3 months ago

Sultana got the Crown Estate wrong. Members of Your Party in Wales, which will be autonomous, will develop a serious offer for our nation through a democratic process. We will co-operate with our comrades in England on UK-wide issues and expect them to respect our stance on specifically Welsh issues.

John Glyn
John Glyn
3 months ago
Reply to  Lyn E

The exact nature of the autonomy afforded to the proposed new left leaning party will be crucial to deciding what impact it will have in Wales.

Lyn E
Lyn E
3 months ago
Reply to  John Glyn

I agree. Personally, I would favour an independent party with our own membership and finances, with a cooperation agreement with sister parties in England and Scotland on UK-wide issues. We shall also have to educate our English comrades on Welsh issues. It’s early days.

Gruff Williams
Gruff Williams
3 months ago
Reply to  David Richards

Don’t feel sorry for the Baroness. She is the consumate career politician. Se cares for nothing but maintaining her own position.

Dai Ponty
Dai Ponty
3 months ago

Wales are always treated like dirt and pooped on from a great height by the London Government Liebour and Tory time to get out of the disunited kingdom

Steve D.
Steve D.
3 months ago

Where there’s money to be made Cymru’s resources will always be plundered regardless of how much we complain. Ultimately, it’s only through independence that Cymru will get full control of the Crown estates and start to finally drag our country out of poverty. Yes, it would be great to see independence gained through the ballot box but if in the future the voice for independence has grown so big (it sounds like a fantasy now but support is growing fast amongst our youth and the continual injustices, like the crown estates and HS2, are only adding fuel to the fire)… Read more »

Arfon Jones
Arfon Jones
3 months ago

We should take the Westminster government to court with a Judicial Review challenging the unfairness of the decision not to devolve the Crown Estate

Bryce
Bryce
3 months ago
Reply to  Arfon Jones

The problem is that without a written constitution guaranteeing basic rights and fairness, Westminster can do whatever it wants with a simple majority of MPs. That doesn’t mean a court challenge is a waste of time because it can still embarrass SW1 into action, just as introducing private members bill to make it law that SW1 treats all parts of the UK as equals has no hope of becoming law, it can still generate debate amongst other parts of the UK that realise there’s no obligation to treat them fairly either.

Amir
Amir
3 months ago

This is a rubbish deal for Wales. Welsh folk benefit zero fron this deal. Time for Jo to step down.

Dai Ponty
Dai Ponty
3 months ago

First step next May get the nodding YES dogs Welsh Liebour OUT in the Welsh government replace them With Plaid then take the London government to court U N or where ever for ill treatment of our Nation an illegal occupation England invaded us and occupied no different to the Russian invasion of Ukraine only difference it happened a couple of hundred years ago

smae
smae
3 months ago
Reply to  Dai Ponty

In fairness to Welsh Labour, I think it’s wise to differentiate them from UK Labour. Welsh Labour might be ineffective and yes time for a change, but they haven’t actually lied to us (as far as I can tell) not like the UK Labour party at least who continually stand against Wales. Welsh Labour have their hands tied behind their backs because of UK Labour but we have seen Welsh Labour taking the MPs to task for not standing up for Wales on a number of occasions. As for Wales taking the UK to the UN Courts or maybe the… Read more »

Keith Parry
Keith Parry
3 months ago
Reply to  smae

Sadly they are the same body and their admin staff in Cardiff are appointed by London. English people with no knowledge or real interest in Wales. The good thing is they will destroy Labour in Wales. CYMRU RYDD! FREE WALES!

Brian T S
Brian T S
3 months ago
Reply to  smae

The Labour party in Cymru have had 25 years in charge, we are still amongst the poorest countries in Europe. It is time both UK Tory parties (Conservative and Labour) left us alone to build our own country.

Rhobat Bryn
Rhobat Bryn
3 months ago

Welsh Labour needs to stop being a branch office of England and become a democratic party in its own right.

Y Cymro
Y Cymro
3 months ago

This decision made by WS Jo Stevens is not in Wales interests. It’s in the British/English establishment. See, you cannot keep denying Wales over and over powers it seeks while devolving them to the other nations and regions of Britain. And to those who arrogantly state , well it’s the Welsh Government who should convince Whitehall that they are deserving of its control. Are the Conservatives or Labour capable? No. On recent form I wouldn’t trust these clowns with a puddle of spit let alone the powers & levers of state. Was this patronising requirement asked of Scotland when it… Read more »

John Glyn
John Glyn
3 months ago

So called ‘Welsh Labour’ has now governed Wales uninterrupted for 26 years. But the Welsh Parliament’s legitimacy in the eyes of the public still continues to be in the balance. Voter turnout is consistently low. But why is this? This is essentially because of Welsh’s Labour utter failure, refusal, to take part in the nation building opportunity which devolution afforded. Because of Welsh Labour’s refusenik negativity the project has still not really got off the ground at all. And why is this you might ask? Essentially because Welsh Labour is still shot through with a debilitating, paralysing, psychologically enslaving, deeply… Read more »

Rob
Rob
3 months ago

Its not just equal status with Scotland, but also Northern Ireland and England (Westminster serves a duel role as the English and UK Parliament). This is about demanding equal status with everyone else. Full devolution is the norm, even if your part of the UK. All we have to do is get the Welsh public to ask themselves why we are the odd ones out? Arguments like ‘slippery slope to independence’, or ‘anti-English racism’ do not wash, if anything it is the status quo which fuels these sentiments. We must never give up the fight no matter what the UK… Read more »

John Glyn
John Glyn
3 months ago
Reply to  Rob

We are the ‘odd ones out’ effectively because of ‘Welsh Labour’s’ continuing shameful servility.

Last edited 3 months ago by John Glyn
Gruff Williams
Gruff Williams
3 months ago

I can assure you, Corbyn and Sultana have no interest whatsoever in Wales as a nation and will offer absolutely nothing in terms of further devolution. Nothing.

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